Michael Schumacher sucks

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: dawheat

Originally posted by: manohartvs
We all could see that schumi won only when ferrari gave him the number 1 car...but we have always seen that when mclaren put out their cars...in the last 7-8 years, they were never the best car...yet mika n kimi have kicked some real ass....

last year's mclaren was a disaster....
Renault...i really dont know what to say..they pulled out an awsome car this year...but alonso is an excellent driver too...

And don't even start talking about Kimi's unluckyness in this sport...he has had every possible nightmarish luck!

Got to love F1 noobs- somehow they forget about all the races won by Michael between 92 and 2000 where he generally drove the 2nd, sometimes 3rd best car on the grid.

Watching him decimate the competition in 01, 02, and 04 were lessons on how to win in a dominant car- lessons JV in 97' and Mika in 98' and 99' could have learned from with their dominating cars. BTW- claiming Mclaren didn't easily have the best car in 98' and 99' and basically an equal car in 00' is plain ignorant.

Regardless, Mclaren has had a good car since the 19/B came out mid-season last year and after the teething pains the first couple races, have the best package this season- it's no accident that nearly all "experts" on the sport call the Mclaren the class of the field this year after the first 1/3 of the season where Renault was on their game.

Kimi's drive at Mangy Cours was impressive, but in probably the fastest car on the grid with a driver of his caliber- it was expected (simliar to Michael in Imola- where there was no safety car BTW). Note Montoya had 3rd wrapped up until his car broke. IMO Michael had a very good race as well- his fastest lap was only 7th fastest, but he fought to keep the car on the podium even as his Bridgestones went away in the latter parts of the race. Unfotunately without cooler temps, the Bridgestones likely won't be the match of Michelin the rest of the European season excluding Silverstone.

JV only won 'cos Schumi broke his legs IIRC.
And as for luck? Well everyone has bad luck and good luck.

I think I remember a race where Schumi lost some gears for a lot of the race and still managed to finish second, he's also good in the wet usually, and there are lots of races where he's done things which are quite special.
As for Kimi's luck, he makes some of that himself (see the race where he kept on driving and he lost his wheel on the last lap, that was his choice to keep going and take the risk, no luck involved, he could have come in and got about 8 points instead of none).

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: dawheat

Originally posted by: manohartvs
We all could see that schumi won only when ferrari gave him the number 1 car...but we have always seen that when mclaren put out their cars...in the last 7-8 years, they were never the best car...yet mika n kimi have kicked some real ass....

last year's mclaren was a disaster....
Renault...i really dont know what to say..they pulled out an awsome car this year...but alonso is an excellent driver too...

And don't even start talking about Kimi's unluckyness in this sport...he has had every possible nightmarish luck!

Got to love F1 noobs- somehow they forget about all the races won by Michael between 92 and 2000 where he generally drove the 2nd, sometimes 3rd best car on the grid.

Watching him decimate the competition in 01, 02, and 04 were lessons on how to win in a dominant car- lessons JV in 97' and Mika in 98' and 99' could have learned from with their dominating cars. BTW- claiming Mclaren didn't easily have the best car in 98' and 99' and basically an equal car in 00' is plain ignorant.

Regardless, Mclaren has had a good car since the 19/B came out mid-season last year and after the teething pains the first couple races, have the best package this season- it's no accident that nearly all "experts" on the sport call the Mclaren the class of the field this year after the first 1/3 of the season where Renault was on their game.

Kimi's drive at Mangy Cours was impressive, but in probably the fastest car on the grid with a driver of his caliber- it was expected (simliar to Michael in Imola- where there was no safety car BTW). Note Montoya had 3rd wrapped up until his car broke. IMO Michael had a very good race as well- his fastest lap was only 7th fastest, but he fought to keep the car on the podium even as his Bridgestones went away in the latter parts of the race. Unfotunately without cooler temps, the Bridgestones likely won't be the match of Michelin the rest of the European season excluding Silverstone.

JV only won 'cos Schumi broke his legs IIRC.
And as for luck? Well everyone has bad luck and good luck.

I think I remember a race where Schumi lost some gears for a lot of the race and still managed to finish second, he's also good in the wet usually, and there are lots of races where he's done things which are quite special.
As for Kimi's luck, he makes some of that himself (see the race where he kept on driving and he lost his wheel on the last lap, that was his choice to keep going and take the risk, no luck involved, he could have come in and got about 8 points instead of none).

Nope, Schumi and JV fought it out until the last race in Japan in '97 when Schumi tried to make a banzai pass and ended up in the kitty litter thus handing the title to JV and Mika Hakkinen his first victory in F1.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Lonyo

JV only won 'cos Schumi broke his legs IIRC.
And as for luck? Well everyone has bad luck and good luck.

I think I remember a race where Schumi lost some gears for a lot of the race and still managed to finish second, he's also good in the wet usually, and there are lots of races where he's done things which are quite special.
As for Kimi's luck, he makes some of that himself (see the race where he kept on driving and he lost his wheel on the last lap, that was his choice to keep going and take the risk, no luck involved, he could have come in and got about 8 points instead of none).

Nope, Schumi and JV fought it out until the last race in Japan in '97 when Schumi tried to make a banzai pass and ended up in the kitty litter thus handing the title to JV and Mika Hakkinen his first victory in F1.

My bad.
Which season was it Schumi broke his legs (at Silverstone IIRC?)
Irvine I think cam erunner up in that season.
(Or am I going mad?)

 

[Brown Noser]

Originally posted by: Francodman
SENNA> *

Taken from us too soon.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Lonyo

JV only won 'cos Schumi broke his legs IIRC.
And as for luck? Well everyone has bad luck and good luck.

I think I remember a race where Schumi lost some gears for a lot of the race and still managed to finish second, he's also good in the wet usually, and there are lots of races where he's done things which are quite special.
As for Kimi's luck, he makes some of that himself (see the race where he kept on driving and he lost his wheel on the last lap, that was his choice to keep going and take the risk, no luck involved, he could have come in and got about 8 points instead of none).

Nope, Schumi and JV fought it out until the last race in Japan in '97 when Schumi tried to make a banzai pass and ended up in the kitty litter thus handing the title to JV and Mika Hakkinen his first victory in F1.

My bad.
Which season was it Schumi broke his legs (at Silverstone IIRC?)
Irvine I think cam erunner up in that season.
(Or am I going mad?)

I think it was '99 and yes, Irvine lost to Hakkinen that year. And yes, it was Silverstone that Schumacher broke his leg.

BTW-Silverstone is this weekend. I'm sure Button mania will be in full effect.