Michelle Obama Involved in Racism: "I Was Asked to Take Something off the Shelf"

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you people truly are trying to make this a benghazi moment. sickening actually.

Not exactly.

You are in agreeance that racism is a serious issue in this nation that needs to be resolved for the betterment for the people as a whole, correct?

We are having a discussion on the reasons why we are trying to fight a battle that simply can't be won at the moment with things like this. And god forbid we were to ever try and speak out publicly about it... less someone like you would chime in
 

FerrelGeek

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Not exactly.

You are in agreeance that racism is a serious issue in this nation that needs to be resolved for the betterment for the people as a whole, correct?

We are having a discussion on the reasons why we are trying to fight a battle that simply can't be won at the moment with things like this. And god forbid we were to ever try and speak out publicly about it... less someone like you would chime in

Exactly! A year ago, Shelly commented about the incident and made NO reference to racism. Now, she's just adding fuel to the fire. Sorry, Linux, but we're allowed to criticize her for making stupid, inaccurate, inflammatory statements. That doesn't mean we're screaming 'scandal'. Though racism still lingers in this country , until the black community stops seeing every little thing as racist, there will NEVER be an improvement. In fact, if this keeps up, I see a potential backlash by many in the white community. So the black community will have a self fulfilling prophecy on their hands with potentially disastrous consequences.
 

cabri

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I didn't compare his wife's appearance to an animal. I just said that Michelle Obama is probably more attractive. I bet she doesn't sit on the internet talking about how ugly other people are.

If you are going to call someone else's wife/husband ugly, yours better be on point. So, I'm guessing that Compuwiz is married to a beauty queen. Probably not, though.


Just like that silly goose that came after Obama's kids. She got shut down real quick because she had some skeletons in her closet from when she was a teenager.

Having seen pictures of his wife and Michelle Obama, his wife is more attractive
 

cabri

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She probably has dealt with racism her entire life, and who the fuck asks random women to pick things up of shelves for them?



Whether or not this specific instance was racism is irrelevant, the First Lady's point is that black people face racism everywhere, which they do.

OLD ladies that are SHORTER have NO QUALMS ABOUT ASKING FOR HELP.

If you looked at the clip on the talk show, you would see that she had no problem at that time with the incident.

Only afterwards, when she was place under the racial microscope, did she pull out the stupidity card.
 

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No I wasn't, but I'm not arguing about this instance of racism like exophase. Her point is valid regardless of whether or not that woman meant to be racist.

Black people face racism constantly. The sooner you white people (and Jews plus the fake Jews that aren't Asian or black or Mexican) stop pretending it doesn't exist.


It exists.

Racism exists. Now evidently you consider asking someone who happens to be black to help a racist. I suppose the best thing to do would not ask blacks to do anything helpful as to not offend them. That seems racist, but YMMV.

Asking someone for assistance regardless of race, age, or sex is not racist or bigoted in any way. Demanding on the other hand would be an issue. There's nothing which suggests that happened.
 

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Racism exists. Now evidently you consider asking someone who happens to be black to help a racist. I suppose the best thing to do would not ask blacks to do anything helpful as to not offend them. That seems racist, but YMMV.



Asking someone for assistance regardless of race, age, or sex is not racist or bigoted in any way. Demanding on the other hand would be an issue. There's nothing which suggests that happened.


There is a big difference between asking nicely and telling somebody to do something because you somehow believe you are in a position to order them around.

And again, you continue to focus on this instance as if her statement constitutes some wrong committed.

You are putting the First Lady on trail over a statement about an interaction nobody saw but her. If every statement you made was recorded and judged, do you think you would sound any better?

You and most posters here can acknowledge that the issue exists. The sooner you stop putting every famous black person on trail for any statement they make about prejudice, the sooner we (as a nation) can move forward.
 

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You are putting the First Lady on trail over a statement about an interaction nobody saw but her. If every statement you made was recorded and judged, do you think you would sound any better?

No, she put her own comments up on trial in the court of public opinion. If you make a comment that puts down other people, say other people did wrong, are wrongful people, we all have the right to speak up in defense.

There is a big difference between asking nicely and telling somebody to do something because you somehow believe you are in a position to order them around.
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You and most posters here can acknowledge that the issue exists.

Which issue? And please be very specific. Is there an epidemic of white grocery shoppers believing black shoppers are our slaves to fetch items for us? Is that the issue we need to acknowledge exists?
 
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LOL! It's just amazing the excuses people will float the Obamas. It's like affirmative action for dumb statements/ideas. No matter how blatantly stupid, it has to be taken as intelligent and excuses made for it because... black people.

I mean, personally I think Obama's claim that anyone ever tossed him their car keys while standing outside a restaurant and that it's routine for all black males his age is orders of magnitudes more of a dumbshit blatant race-baiting lie than the whopper his wife was slinging... but we have a president that's such a clown that's held to such a low standard for the bullshit that flows out of his mouth that NO ONE EVEN NOTICES!
 

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There is a big difference between asking nicely and telling somebody to do something because you somehow believe you are in a position to order them around.

And again, you continue to focus on this instance as if her statement constitutes some wrong committed.

You are putting the First Lady on trail over a statement about an interaction nobody saw but her. If every statement you made was recorded and judged, do you think you would sound any better?

You and most posters here can acknowledge that the issue exists. The sooner you stop putting every famous black person on trail for any statement they make about prejudice, the sooner we (as a nation) can move forward.

Precisely why should I respect the First Lady over the poorest black person that ever lived?

Let's look at MO's statement.

She said, “I tell this story – I mean, even as the first lady – during that wonderfully publicized trip I took to Target, not highly disguised, the only person who came up to me in the store was a woman who asked me to help her take something off a shelf. Because she didn’t see me as the first lady, she saw me as someone who could help her. Those kinds of things happen in life. So it isn’t anything new.”

Now I will tell you that if I went up to any President or First Lady I'd have avoided them because the SS would and should have been all over me. If the outrage is over being asked to help then the problem is with her, not the woman who dared ask Her Highness for help.
 
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Oh, btw I wouldn't have recognized any First Lady except for Hillary. Was obama racially offended or was it her ego?
 

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Oh, btw I wouldn't have recognized any First Lady except for Hillary. Was obama racially offended or was it her ego?

Seriously? I find this hard to believe. You post (a good amount) on a forum about politics yet don't know what the first lady looks like? :/


Do you really believe that Michelle Obama went up there and said those things as part of a greater scheme to make people believe racism is prevalent when it really isn't? If you do, then I don't know what to tell you. She probably thought nothing of that statement and maybe worded it poorly. Who knows, she may have misremembered something or mixed things up, she's a human!


I get the feeling that many people here believe that minorities are trying to get one over on white people by claiming racism when in reality its just life. I'm sure that happens sometimes, but I'm telling you that whatever these people gain from bringing attention to "false" racism is paltry in comparison to the real racism they will experience in life.
 

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Do you really believe that Michelle Obama went up there and said those things as part of a greater scheme to make people believe racism is prevalent when it really isn't?

That's absolutely what she's doing. She's finding racism where there is none in order to further an agenda. She's a race pimp. The fact that you're defending her mean you're either an ignorant fool who doesn't understand he's being played, or a race pimp yourself.
 

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Seriously? I find this hard to believe. You post (a good amount) on a forum about politics yet don't know what the first lady looks like? :/


Do you really believe that Michelle Obama went up there and said those things as part of a greater scheme to make people believe racism is prevalent when it really isn't? If you do, then I don't know what to tell you. She probably thought nothing of that statement and maybe worded it poorly. Who knows, she may have misremembered something or mixed things up, she's a human!


I get the feeling that many people here believe that minorities are trying to get one over on white people by claiming racism when in reality its just life. I'm sure that happens sometimes, but I'm telling you that whatever these people gain from bringing attention to "false" racism is paltry in comparison to the real racism they will experience in life.


I would not recognize her nor any of the first ladys. I wouldn't have recognized Nancy Reagan. I don't see their faces in the papers every day. They aren't elected officials with any Constitutional authority. I'm not a respecter of persons other than for them being people. Their office, their status, their wealth, their color or sex mean less to me than you can possibly imagine. I literally believe that the poor black person is entitled to the same courtesy as Michelle or myself. If you find that incredible so be it.

Now I admit the possibility that the article was poorly worded. She might have stated the incident poorly. That's a potential in any report. If that's the case then I have no basis for complaint assuming she wasn't using an incident to dramatize an entirely innocent situation. I'm old enough to remember Vietnam all too well, where "Truths larger than facts" were used to mislead. I saw Bush and Cheney do the same thing. Those WMDs may not have been there but the threat of terrorism excused that. Maybe the incident was expressed accurately and maybe not, but if it was not there's no justification for it, racism being real notwithstanding.
 

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Those of use making mountains out of this mole-hill are protesting her making a mountain out of a perceived mole-hill which wasn't actually even a mole-hill in the first place.

There. I said it.
And damned well, too.

I highly suspect both versions of the story are made up from whole cloth. I seriously doubt it's possible for the First Lady to be shopping in Target without everyone there being vetted and inconvenienced.

Having seen pictures of his wife and Michelle Obama, his wife is more attractive
Wouldn't that be purely a matter of personal preference? I don't find the First Lady attractive myself, but I see nothing inherently unattractive about her, so however hot is Compuwiz' wife, surely there are a reasonable number of people who would prefer either one over the other. Personally I am convinced that Taylor Swift is a poorly disguised gray, but there are legions of people who find her quite beautiful.
 

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Lol Jews are not a race. It's a religion. Are you Israeli? Otherwise, stfu!

I have several practicing Jew friends who were adopted. How did they suddenly aquire a different race? One of them is Asian, is he a Jew or does he stay Asian?


Tell that to Jerry Seinfeld

woww..just..woww

Have you never met a Jew or something?
Oh look;Here's 2 Apartment buildings full of Jews that aren't Israeli

http://www.city-data.com/businesses/442500765-allied-jewish-apartments-denver-co.html

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.938...1sAfE8ZCBfo3WzXBna7cwt3A!2e0!6m1!1e1?hl=en-US
 
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FerrelGeek

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Get this through your dense liberal skull...
When Shelly was asked to get the item for the short lady, Shelly DID EFFING NOT see it as racist, based on her comments on the talk show. Now that the racial flames are being fanned, she feels compelled to re-spin that occurrence from last year to throw more gasoline on the fire.

And blacks need to realize that racism works both ways. White people (the vast majority anyway) are not racist, but are becoming sick and tired of being told that everything they do has racist overtones when being racist is (in the vast majority of cases) the last thing on their minds. As for black people, stop looking for every conceivable reason to be offended. And when legitimate racism does happen, rise above it. The best revenge is to live well.

There is a big difference between asking nicely and telling somebody to do something because you somehow believe you are in a position to order them around.

And again, you continue to focus on this instance as if her statement constitutes some wrong committed.

You are putting the First Lady on trail over a statement about an interaction nobody saw but her. If every statement you made was recorded and judged, do you think you would sound any better?

You and most posters here can acknowledge that the issue exists. The sooner you stop putting every famous black person on trail for any statement they make about prejudice, the sooner we (as a nation) can move forward.
 

CZroe

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Lol Jews are not a race. It's a religion. Are you Israeli? Otherwise, stfu!

I have several practicing Jew friends who were adopted. How did they suddenly aquire a different race? One of them is Asian, is he a Jew or does he stay Asian?

You don't convert to "Jewish." You convert to "Judaism." "Jew" can refer to the race or adherents to that race's dominant religion. Don't play dumb. I clarified this when I was first curious when I was a teenager and we didn't even have Wikipedia. If you look it up it will say that "Jew" refers to both an ethnicity and religion. You've gotta be pretty damned thick to make a statement like that and keep restating it without looking it up.
 

Matt1970

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Seriously? I find this hard to believe. You post (a good amount) on a forum about politics yet don't know what the first lady looks like? :/


Do you really believe that Michelle Obama went up there and said those things as part of a greater scheme to make people believe racism is prevalent when it really isn't? If you do, then I don't know what to tell you. She probably thought nothing of that statement and maybe worded it poorly. Who knows, she may have misremembered something or mixed things up, she's a human!


I get the feeling that many people here believe that minorities are trying to get one over on white people by claiming racism when in reality its just life. I'm sure that happens sometimes, but I'm telling you that whatever these people gain from bringing attention to "false" racism is paltry in comparison to the real racism they will experience in life.

 

himkhan

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Goodness is this circle jerk still going on? Will one of you cum so this stupid non story can die off already. I don't know one person in real life that has even heard of this, pop your bubbles already and step outside.
 
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