"Michelle Obama Lowers Use of School Lunch Program,

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CPA

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What's funny is that the GAO also thinks this decrease will be short lived and will disappear in the relatively near future. Considering the absolutely atrocious content of school lunches before this time that seems like an exceedingly small price to pay.

I never cease to be amused by the sites you link to, btw. They are a great window into just how far into the ultra right wing media bubble you are. Every time you do things like this I have to remind myself that a real person actually thinks this way. It's about 50% funny and 50% scary.

yeah, like kids are going to start eating what they are throwing out. good luck with that.
 

Zorkorist

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I don't see the big deal with removing certain unhealthy food options from schools. Kids are not mature enough (as well as most Americans in general) to make good decisions when it comes to eating properly among many other things. How in the world can anyone support the idea of children boycotting school lunches (according to that article)? As long as the guidelines are simple and cheap enough to implement, I don't have a problem with these new regulations. From the sounds of it, the regulations are too complex- this is where the problem is if there is a problem at all. The rest of it sounds like spoiled kids who don't want to eat balanced meals.

Like Dr. Pizza said, it is about moderation more than anything else. There are some things that should be taken minimally like things with high sugar content and chemicals like soda.. but even that stuff is fine in small doses. SMALL doses.

One huge problem in our country also is nutrition fads. I can't wait until the whole "carbs bad" thing goes away. This is one of the most moronic thing to come out of the health sciences. I remember when eggs were "bad". There also is that thing about 100% fruit juice being bad... ridiculous.
I take it that you and Michelle are ready and willing to take out the Coke machines first? As a small step?

No?

No!?

-John
 

ivwshane

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I take it that you and Michelle are ready and willing to take out the Coke machines first? As a small step?

No?

No!?

-John

I thought most schools already removed soda machines.

Here is the part I don't get; the right complains about food stamps and all the crap people but with them and want to regulate, heavily, what they can be used for, the school lunch program provides a healthy lunch to kids who don't want to eat it and the right goes ape shit.

The right is full of nothing but contradictions:

No hand out because people need to work and pull themselves up by their boot straps but don't go trying to raise the minimum wage, they don't deserve higher pay!

They want small government unless it's a government that tells you what you can do with your body and who you can marry.

They hate high taxes and yet advocate for a flat tax which is a tax increase on the average joe.

They want to outlaw abortions but don't want to help those that can't afford to raise a child properly.

They desperately want a truely free market but they blame government for monopolies.

They complain about government being too big, wasteful, and broken and yet they purposely break the government while obstructing and causing wasteful, unnecessary spending.

They spout the virtue of an isolationist government and yet call Obama weak when he isn't more forceful or threatening action or doesn't back up his threats with real force.

I could go on and on but it just gets more annoying after awhile.


The only thing positive I can say about the right is that they must be the happiest citizens in the country for the fact that they finally have a voice and actually hold political power that truely represents them. It must be nice to have a party you can point to and say, "yep! They represent me, they get me!".

Who would have thought the crazy and paranoid would have gained any political power at all?



/end rant
 

row

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...Who would have thought the crazy and paranoid would have gained any political power at all? /end rant

shit, they'd vote for berrie a third time given the chance...

but thankfully these crazy and paranoid idiots will be history come november when they're replaced by republicans
 

ivwshane

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shit, they'd vote for berrie a third time given the chance...

but thankfully these crazy and paranoid idiots will be history come november when they're replaced by republicans

Speaking of crazy...
 

sportage

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I especially like the youtube link where Michelle kicks the apple out of the mouth of that little handicapped kid confined to her wheel chair. OMG. Just OMG. Those f-king Obama's and their fancy shoes.
 

dank69

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Step 1: Start with the assumption that the goal of liberalism is to increase government dependency.

Step 2: Any policy that reduces government dependency can now be mocked as a failure instead of hailed as a success.

Step 3: Furiously fap while reading more American "Thinker" articles.
 

Thebobo

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There's nothing wrong with many foods, eaten in moderation. The problem is that all the foods seem to be dictated by some sort of a healthy food nazi. It's not that the meals have to be healthy, it's that every single item would have to be okayed by some sort of militant health nut. Whole wheat pizza, without pepperoni, but with shredded government turkey as a topping so it meets the protein requirement? Yeah, tell me again that it's because the lunches are "healthier" rather than taste like shit as a result of the requirements.

OPs post and the links in it reek of yet another florescent light bulb faux outrage from the right. These right wing blogs get wind of some criticisms and oh my the world is ending. Just look at the OPS linked web sites they are copied text, from one to another. They scream outrage about anything this administration does. You sure as hell aint going to get unbiased information from them I mean they are fine when you need to charge your outrage battery. Sorry Boomer but its true.

And please, shredded government turkey? Nazi health nut?


 

boomerang

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OPs post and the links in it reek of yet another florescent light bulb faux outrage from the right. These right wing blogs get wind of some criticisms and oh my the world is ending. Just look at the OPS linked web sites they are copied text, from one to another. They scream outrage about anything this administration does. You sure as hell aint going to get unbiased information from them I mean they are fine when you need to charge your outrage battery. Sorry Boomer but its true.

And please, shredded government turkey? Nazi health nut?
I'm saddened by the way you spin everything to where it appears that posting an article is dissention bordering on violence in the streets. Saddened but not surprised. Say anything negative about this administration and you're foaming at the mouth and ready to take up arms against the evil government! I see anti-anxiety and blood pressure medication in your future.

But, not to worry. I see no reason to concern yourself about the possibility of an IRS audit. You are towing the party line admirably comrade. An extra beet ration for you!

January of 2017 is a long ways off. It's not going to get any easier for you.
 

spittledip

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I take it that you and Michelle are ready and willing to take out the Coke machines first? As a small step?

No?

No!?

-John

I have no problem with mandating removal of soda machines from the schools. How in the heck did they get there in the first place? We want kids to do their best in school and yet give them access in the same exact place to stuff that is bad for their brains and bodies? That is a waste of taxpayer money (among other things). We should be encouraging them to take in foods that will give their brains and bodies the best nutrition possible so that they can absorb and retain all the knowledge they can at school. Putting garbage food in schools really sends a mixed message if you think about it. Don't you think that the FIRST PLACE American children should be applying their knowledge is in the very place they acquire the knowledge? Or are we teaching them to put aside the application of what they learn and that knowledge is just a tool to get money?

There are much larger lessons here than just "Don't eat bad food!".

Also, you people need to learn that freedom to do whatever is not the ultimate expression of a utopian society. I can't think of a better way to say that last sentence, but I think you get the drift.
 

CitizenKain

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It's also ironic that the poster whose links always comes from right wing sources is preaching to anyone about laping up anything.

When someone posts exclusively from within their own asshole, its impossible for someone like him to understand irony.
 

SaurusX

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As with most failed liberal projects: It isn't the system that's broken, it's the people.
 

surfsatwerk

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This isn't a liberal or conservative problem, it's a government problem. The government has demonstrated beyond any shadow of a doubt that they will always get nutrition wrong.
 

werepossum

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Just an FYI: the West Berlin side of the wall was the liberal side.
Nope. The East side of the wall had exactly the sort of government control and redistribution that Obama is trying to bring here. The West side was classically liberal, yes, but the East side had Obama's policies before Obama was born.

There's nothing wrong with many foods, eaten in moderation. The problem is that all the foods seem to be dictated by some sort of a healthy food nazi. It's not that the meals have to be healthy, it's that every single item would have to be okayed by some sort of militant health nut. Whole wheat pizza, without pepperoni, but with shredded government turkey as a topping so it meets the protein requirement? Yeah, tell me again that it's because the lunches are "healthier" rather than taste like shit as a result of the requirements.
Well said, but expecting common sense from the federal government is like expecting to just get a little pregnant. And making the food taste like crap satisfies the stated purpose of eliminating childhood obesity - or at least it will once they ban home lunches, vending machines, and going off premises.
 

fskimospy

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Nope. The East side of the wall had exactly the sort of government control and redistribution that Obama is trying to bring here. The West side was classically liberal, yes, but the East side had Obama's policies before Obama was born.

What's funny about that is that West Germany had a higher tax rate and a more redistributive tax policy than Obama advocates in the US.
 

ElFenix

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There's nothing wrong with many foods, eaten in moderation. The problem is that all the foods seem to be dictated by some sort of a healthy food nazi. It's not that the meals have to be healthy, it's that every single item would have to be okayed by some sort of militant health nut. Whole wheat pizza, without pepperoni, but with shredded government turkey as a topping so it meets the protein requirement? Yeah, tell me again that it's because the lunches are "healthier" rather than taste like shit as a result of the requirements.

previous issue with school lunch is that practically nothing about it was healthy. the old lunch was rectangle pizza with fries and a side of ranch, with a carton of sugar milk to wash it down with. that or "steak" nuggets. oh, there was a shred of lettuce drowned in ranch on the side, maybe.

school lunch was in completely the wrong place. maybe it's gone too far the other way, but it needed improved.


edit: looking at my local ISD's lunch menu there's still a lot of carbs and fat options on there
 
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waggy

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previous issue with school lunch is that practically nothing about it was healthy. the old lunch was rectangle pizza with fries and a side of ranch, with a carton of sugar milk to wash it down with. that or "steak" nuggets. oh, there was a shred of lettuce drowned in ranch on the side, maybe.

school lunch was in completely the wrong place. maybe it's gone too far the other way, but it needed improved.

school lunch was terrible. but i think they swung to far in the other direction. To the point that most of the food end's up in garbage can. They really need to use some of that stuff called common sense.

they limit the portion size no white bread, skim milk etc. there is what a 650 calorie limit? that's fucking nuts.

Maybe it's great for a kid who is not in sports but a 650 calorie limit was a snack to me in high school.
 

werepossum

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I have no problem with mandating removal of soda machines from the schools. How in the heck did they get there in the first place? We want kids to do their best in school and yet give them access in the same exact place to stuff that is bad for their brains and bodies? That is a waste of taxpayer money (among other things). We should be encouraging them to take in foods that will give their brains and bodies the best nutrition possible so that they can absorb and retain all the knowledge they can at school. Putting garbage food in schools really sends a mixed message if you think about it. Don't you think that the FIRST PLACE American children should be applying their knowledge is in the very place they acquire the knowledge? Or are we teaching them to put aside the application of what they learn and that knowledge is just a tool to get money?

There are much larger lessons here than just "Don't eat bad food!".

Also, you people need to learn that freedom to do whatever is not the ultimate expression of a utopian society. I can't think of a better way to say that last sentence, but I think you get the drift.
They got there by paying for sports scoreboards, because kids (and teachers) like them, and by bringing in some revenue.

school lunch was terrible. but i think they swung to far in the other direction. To the point that most of the food end's up in garbage can. They really need to use some of that stuff called common sense.

they limit the portion size no white bread, skim milk etc. there is what a 650 calorie limit? that's fucking nuts.

Maybe it's great for a kid who is not in sports but a 650 calorie limit was a snack to me in high school.
Yup. When I was in high school I commonly ate two Wendy's triples with fries and a big Coke. I weighed 120 - 125 lbs when I graduated.
 

Vic

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What's funny about that is that West Germany had a higher tax rate and a more redistributive tax policy than Obama advocates in the US.

Let's also not forget that taxes haven't gone up during Obama nor has wealth redistribution (to the poor).
 
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The school lunch program should be cut. Government shouldn't be giving food to students and it costs a lot of tax dollars for this.
 

Vic

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The school lunch program should be cut. Government shouldn't be giving food to students and it costs a lot of tax dollars for this.

It would cost more without it. Malnourished children perform poorly academically and are more likely to end up being a burden to society when they get older.

Idealism is great but reality tends to hold a differing opinion.
 
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