Commodus
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I support protests against oppression.
Good thing this isn't actual oppression, then. And, for that matter, that the protesters are easily manipulated at best and insincere at worst.
I support protests against oppression.
Good thing this isn't actual oppression, then. And, for that matter, that the protesters are easily manipulated at best and insincere at worst.
404 Oppression Not FoundI support protests against oppression.
I 100% sympathize with the grievances of quarantine-displaced workers as well, but at the same time it seems very odd to me that all the displaced workers protesting here are the exact same crowd of MAGA extremists that have been doing the "Recall *insert Democratic governor here*" protests across the country the past few years.These are people who are against the government overstepping their bounds and are just wanting to work, I don’t like the methods they’re using to go about it but I can certainly sympathize with their grievances.
I wouldn't call this oppression because the government isnt maliciously targeting a specific people group.
I 100% sympathize with the grievances of quarantine-displaced workers as well, but at the same time it seems very odd to me that all the displaced workers protesting here are the exact same crowd of MAGA extremists that have been doing the "Recall *insert Democratic governor here*" protests across the country the past few years.
Doesn't that seem odd to you as well?
The article said it started from a Facebook group, I don’t know what the group was about but it wouldn’t shock me if it was a political one thus all the MAGA crazies. And I’m not defending how they’re doing it at all with the traffic gridlocks. But people of all stripes are hurt by this so I wouldn’t dismiss their concerns just because of their political colors.
The article said it started from a Facebook group, I don’t know what the group was about but it wouldn’t shock me if it was a political one thus all the MAGA crazies. And I’m not defending how they’re doing it at all with the traffic gridlocks. But people of all stripes are hurt by this so I wouldn’t dismiss their concerns just because of their political colors.
The two groups behind the “operation gridlock” rally in Michigan on Wednesday have ties to the Republican party and the Trump administration.
The Michigan Freedom Fund, which said it was a co-host of the rally, has received more than $500,000 from the DeVos family, regular donors to rightwing groups.
The other host, the Michigan Conservative Coalition, was founded by Matt Maddock, now a Republican member of the state house of representatives. The MCC also operates under the name Michigan Trump Republicans, and in January held an event featuring several members of the Trump campaign.
Which article were you reading?
This part....did you read?
Thousands of Americans backed by rightwing donors gear up for protests
Conservative activists to demand governors lift stay-home orders – and movement has been driven by wealthy conservative groupswww.theguardian.com
It's more than just a Facebook post and group starting it.......
But is targeting a particular group and having a malicious intent necessary to qualify for oppression though? I think people can be oppressed by a government (or anybody with power over them really) even when the intentions are good. It can be done without realizing it. I think in his case the government has all the best intentions, but there are things being done that might not only be violating our rights and liberties but also causing a lot of hardships and pain throughout the country.
This whole ordeal was unprecedented and the world seems to be scrambling to find the best way to deal with it. It's important to maintain our freedoms though, as we saw after 9/11 the government can quickly do away with our rights in the name of protecting us.
I agree these people seem political and of the MAGA variety, and their protest is a political one. But their concerns are shared by people of all stripes across the country. It’s not just Trumpkins who think the country is quickly sliding down a slippery slope and our freedoms are flying out the window in order to protect us.
It hasn't gotten to that point yet (except with these bozos) but if this shutdown continues much longer you’ll start to see civil unrest. Especially if this starts to effect our food supply chains.
I was reading the article in the OP. It said they were a Facebook group with ties to Devos and spent $250 to promote it. Anyways I’m not suggesting they aren’t a political group nor am I defending how they are protesting. What I’m saying is you’ll see more and more unrest like this because people are feeling a lot of economic pain as businesses are laying off and shutting their doors at a rapid pace. We've got to open the economy back up.
It’s definitely political and unfortunately Americans are caught in the crossfire like usual. I think all politicians should have their assets frozen and be forced to live on $1200 until the economy opens. They need to know the pain that many Americans are facing due to the shutdown. And that goes for Trump too. All of them.
They should lose their government funded healthcare as well.
They sure do:Employers were forcibly shut down. Employees fired. Income eliminated. Rent / mortgage missed. Homelessness, among other tragedies. The consequences grow by the week.
For the stores that remain open, Michigan ordered specially what they can or cannot sell.
One thing everyone seems to be forgetting is the people who really need a break are the Healthcare workers. If we open up halfcocked like Trump is planning, we may be in a bigger rut than we are now. These workers need to have some down time to rest. If they fail, the front line is gone.
That's the problem with so much of this. People thinking because it isn't bad right now in their local area they don't have to take strong actions. What they miss is it is the strong actions preventing a shit show from developing in their area.My brother is an ER nurse and he’s had to work a little overtime but said by and large it’s not so bad. I think there are pockets through the country where the healthcare workers are being overtaxed and other areas where that’s not really the case. NYC is bearing the brunt of the virus and I’m sure the nurses and doctors there are feeling it.
That's the problem with so much of this. People thinking because it isn't bad right now in their local area they don't have to take strong actions. What they miss is it is the strong actions preventing a shit show from developing in their area.