Originally posted by: sabooya
Is there any significant difference between standard ATX and Micro other then the obvious lack of PCI slots?
Originally posted by: sabooya
Can anyone recommend a good mATX mobo? Or a good site that coudl help me out?
Originally posted by: Binky
Good is difficult to measure. It depends on what you need it for. The new AMD 780 chipset looks fantastic for HTPC use (gigabyte has a board out already). Several very good boards are available on the Intel G31 chipset (gigabyte, Asus, maybe others), and Asus has a great board using the G35 chipset.
Originally posted by: kyotousa
something like gigabyte's.....but those are ATX board
I read gigabyte's 780g board has electro noise...
Originally posted by: JimiP
Originally posted by: kyotousa
something like gigabyte's.....but those are ATX board
I read gigabyte's 780g board has electro noise...
Gigabyte's 780G board is not ATX, it's a mATX.
Originally posted by: Tweakin
I would love to see a mAtx board with a full bios and no on-board video. I think this is where they fail.
Originally posted by: PingSpike
so it seems like no one wants a highend mATX board. Thus, the perception continues by all that mATX is for crap boxes with onboard video and ATX is for serious stuff.
Since we're dreaming, I'd like to see the above with no pata or floppy or ps/2 connectors. Seems like this would free up some board real estate for other things. I don't need 6 or 8 sata connectors either.Originally posted by: Tweakin
I would love to see a mAtx board with a full bios and no on-board video.
Originally posted by: Zap
Originally posted by: PingSpike
so it seems like no one wants a highend mATX board. Thus, the perception continues by all that mATX is for crap boxes with onboard video and ATX is for serious stuff.
Well, the perception is changing, but at a slight tangent. Board makers are now starting to target HTPC with higher end mATX boards. I think they're doing this because it's a new niche, and of course slim-and-sexy HTPC cases mostly take mATX boards. The problem with an "enthusiast" mATX board is that it will directly compete with ATX boards by the same maker, while the HTPC-centric mATX boards will not.
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Since we're dreaming, I'd like to see the above with no pata or floppy or ps/2 connectors. Seems like this would free up some board real estate for other things. I don't need 6 or 8 sata connectors either.
To get those fancy faux copper heatpipes and chipset/MOSFET heatsinks :laugh:.Originally posted by: Skott
Why pay $200-$300+ for a ATX mobo that is a high overclocker when you can pay $100-$150 for a mATX mobo thats a also a high overclocker?
Originally posted by: AmberClad
To get those fancy faux copper heatpipes and chipset/MOSFET heatsinks :laugh:.
I suggest eliminating these connectors since they are legacy - maybe not completely unused yet but almost. I was thinking that these could be eliminated in a redesign or new board design - not a kludge in current designs. Not being a mb designer, maybe I'm attaching too much significance to them. The traces do take up board real estate that could be used for something else or nothing - possibly enabling the board to be reduced in physical size or number of layers.Originally posted by: Zap
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Since we're dreaming, I'd like to see the above with no pata or floppy or ps/2 connectors. Seems like this would free up some board real estate for other things. I don't need 6 or 8 sata connectors either.
Well, that would free up PCB to be... empty.
No PS/2, no PATA, fewer than 6 SATA, mATX... I know of a board like that!!! It is a trimmed down Foxconn G33M. I've got one, in my Dell Vostro 200. I think other Dells use the same board. I think it still has floppy though...
Intel DG33TL doesn't have PS/2 or floppy(!) but does have 6 SATA and an EIDE.