Microsoft Linux

[Olias]

Sorry but I couldn't resist. I started using Linux about 10 months ago and I'm really liking it. Here is my experience in a nut shell...

• - Started with Redhat which showed me what the possibilities were but was too pre-formated.
  - Tried Gentoo but it was way too wide open and over my head.
  - Gave Mandrake a spin and had a little more freedom than RH but still too restrictive.
  - Installed slackware and liked it. By this time things started to make sense to me.
  - Tried Mandrake again and was reminded that this was the wrong direction for me... I want to be free.
  - Went back to Gentoo and haven't looked back. it's like I took the red pill and I'm starting to see things for what they really are.

So why not help stop piracy and give someone you care about a copy of Linux. Don't be content with being the same as all the other sheep. Step out and be different.

Olias

 

[Abos]

Umm... Windows rules!?!

 

[drag]

Originally posted by: Abos
Umm... Windows rules!?!

Na.

How about, if all the people move to linux then does that make linux users the "sheep"?

 

[n0cmonkey]

I'll pass on Linux thanks. Except for the one Linux machine I've got now. But you never know when that will change

 

[Monoman]

n0c, don't you have a home infested with computer like I do? (6 personally, 2 business and 1 for the wife) running all sorts of BSD/Solaris, Linux/?????

 

[Idoxash]

I try to give LINUX to many chances and it's just not up to wut I expect for a OS. Hoping someday I can use MAC OS 10 ... for now I stick with Mircrosoft Windows XP ~~~

--Idoxash

PS) Glad you found LINUX to you liking at least. However LINUX is just bloated and slow and well I could give plenty of reasons why I hate it but n0cmonkey can probly give you better reasons why LINUX sucks.

 

[Monoman]

Originally posted by: Idoxash
but n0cmonkey can probly give you better reasons why LINUX sucks.

compaired to Windows? hell no.... compaired to BSD/Solaris depends(IMO)/yes. I am not speaking from him but he sems to like those more than linux

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Monoman
n0c, don't you have a home infested with computer like I do? (6 personally, 2 business and 1 for the wife) running all sorts of BSD/Solaris, Linux/?????

Mine:
1 Linux
3 OpenBSD
1 NetBSD (still having issues, might go back to OpenBSD sometime, depending on if I can keep it running or not)
1 that might get something on it sometime if I feel like it and it all still works
1 Mac OS X

Rest:
3-4 Windows 2k/XP

And enough parts to make a couple of really crappy old machines run

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Idoxash
IHowever LINUX is just bloated and slow

Maybe you used the wrong distro. Some are slow, some are fast, and some don't give a damn

and well I could give plenty of reasons why I hate it but n0cmonkey can probly give you better reasons why LINUX sucks.

No, I can do what you would do. I could say why it sucks for me, but no one cares

 

[Nothinman]

- Gave Mandrake a spin and had a little more freedom than RH but still too restrictive.

How is it restrictive? You can do the exact same things with Mandrake that you can do with any other Linux distro, the main difference between them is the initial installer and the bundled packages which you don't even need to use if you don't want to.

However LINUX is just bloated and slow

Linux is neither of those, I call PEBKAC.

compaired to Windows? hell no.... compaired to BSD/Solaris depends(IMO)/yes. I am not speaking from him but he sems to like those more than linux

All the BSDs and Solaris are equally annoying compared to Linux, and Solaris is worse than all of them simply because it's closed source.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

All the BSDs and Solaris are equally annoying compared to Linux, and Solaris is worse than all of them simply because it's closed source.

Give him credit for throwing in IMO.

They're all annoying to someone. Except OpenBSD

 

http://www.mslinux.org

 

[Monoman]

Originally posted by: sm8000
http://www.mslinux.org

<U>W</U>hiskey
<U>T</U>ango
<U>F</U>oxtrot

??????

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: sm8000
http://www.mslinux.org

:beer:

 

[Nothinman]

If anything it'll be MicrosoftBSD since they wouldn't have to release the source code.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Nothinman
If anything it'll be MicrosoftBSD since they wouldn't have to release the source code.

It is widely known that Microsoft uses BSD code in several programs (including the ftp program). They also use OpenBSD code in their Unix services programs.

Maybe I should get a computer to load the free copy of win2k3 and the free unix services for windows software I have. You know, to poke around.

 

[drag]

Originally posted by: Nothinman
If anything it'll be MicrosoftBSD since they wouldn't have to release the source code.

hehe. There is still some vestages of BSD code sitting around windows here and there.

For some simplistic "proof":

MS host file:

C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

My host file:

/etc/hosts

If you snoop around the DNS resolving stuff you can apperiantly find more evidence (but no mentions of BSD-style credit references are anywere in so apparently MS had the same issues as FSF in the older style BSD comments and liscencing requirements), but by now almost all traces (probably, but I am no expert) of original BSD code from the win9x days has been fully consumed and is radicly different from the originaly stuff.

 

[Olias]

Originally posted by: Olias

- Gave Mandrake a spin and had a little more freedom than RH but still too restrictive.

How is it restrictive? You can do the exact same things with Mandrake that you can do with any other Linux distro, the main difference between them is the initial installer and the bundled packages which you don't even need to use if you don't want to.

The bundled packages are where I got all messed-up with dependencies. Gentoo uses a local/remote database called Portage that handles all your dependencies.

 

[Derango]

Originally posted by: Monoman

Originally posted by: sm8000
http://www.mslinux.org

<STRONG>W</strong><EM>hiskey</em>
<STRONG>T</strong><EM>ango</em>
<STRONG>F</strong><EM>oxtrot

??????</em>

I thought that was what this post was about to begin with. Every month or so on a linux forum I used to hang out on (www.linuxnewbies.org) someone would post that site thinking it was real. If I had a dollar for every time someone posted this and believed that site, I'd have a ton of money right now

 

[Nothinman]

The bundled packages are where I got all messed-up with dependencies.

There are tools to handle the dependencies for you, you just have to use them. Mandrake comes with urpmi, IIRC.

Gentoo uses a local/remote database called Portage that handles all your dependencies.

That doesn't make Gentoo unique, just about every distro has something like that now. Debian was the first and still has the best system IMO.

 

[chsh1ca]

Personally, I prefer generating my own binaries from source, and handling everything that way. In a server environment, compile-once install-everywhere is incredibly nice, especially since you don't have to put up with some other package maintainer's dated software configurations and/or specific configuration. Then again, I am a Slackware user, and for a long time Slackware users have had the rap of being the OpenBSD user equivalent of linux. Thankfully those elitist wannabes have by and large moved onto Gentoo (they really should rename the distro Delude ).

We could all whip out stories about how long we've been using linux, but I've tried all the major distributions at one point or another since RedHat 5.0, and have been using linux as my primary desktop since RH 5.2 was released. I keep a small Windows 98SE partition around so I can play games, but by and large I'm running out of titles that won't run on linux with WineX. For me, Slackware is simply the best option. I like the simplicity of pkgtool, and I like that it is so open ended and easy to create your own customized package list on an install CD with Slack. As with all things though, what works for some does not necessarily work for all.

 

[Pocatello]

I've tried Mandrake 9.2, found it to be slow and buggy, certain program would crash. Installing hardware drivers is a hit and miss thing, if the sun and stars align, then it would work.