Microsoft Lumia 950 and 950XL confirmed!

maevinj

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Apparently Microsoft UK goofed and put them up in the store this morning.
http://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-lists-lumia-950-and-lumia-950-xl-company-store-ahead-release
Microsoft has inadvertently confirmed both the Lumia 950 and Lumia 950 XL. The company mistakenly published listings for the two upcoming smartphones on its UK store. Pricing and such weren't confirmed, but at least we now know exactly what's planned with regards to branding.

The "2TB SD" spec you'll see just refers to the SDXC standard, before anyone gets too excited. There aren't any 2TB microSD cards out there and if there were, you'd probably have to mortgage your house to buy one. It does however mean you can put one of those Sandisk 200GB cards in just fine.

Unfortunately, the store links for said listings do not work but we do have a small insight into the specifications that will be sported by the unannounced Windows 10 Mobile handsets. We expect the Lumia 950 and Lumia 950 XL to be announced at Microsoft's upcoming event.

8 images of the Lumia 950 & Lumia 950 XL the Microsoft Store did not want you to see
In fairness, with all the earlier leaks on these phones these renders don't tell us anything new. Still, you can get a little more excited at what is to come, including more validation about these phones.

We'll know more information about these two devices at the Microsoft event on October 6th. We're also expecting new Surfaces, new Microsoft Band and other accessories.
 

Strk

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I wonder what the odds are of them going with carrier exclusive again? One of their best was the Icon, but you needed to be on Verizon for that one.
 

Denly

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I am with WP since the beginning and currently rocking a BLU HD and a 830, 950/XL does not interest me at all. WP isn't hardware limited, even my BLU run 8.1 just fine. I don't see any feature(s) that I need/want from the new offering, no 1050(1020 replacement), no water proof(like sony), no docking(I can dream) and no pen(Note). Also I prefer physical buttons.

I wish them luck but I will wait.
 

maevinj

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I am with WP since the beginning and currently rocking a BLU HD and a 830, 950/XL does not interest me at all. WP isn't hardware limited, even my BLU run 8.1 just fine. I don't see any feature(s) that I need/want from the new offering, no 1050(1020 replacement), no water proof(like sony), no docking(I can dream) and no pen(Note). Also I prefer physical buttons.

I wish them luck but I will wait.

Actually, there will be "docking" with continuum http://www.engadget.com/2015/04/29/continuum-windows-10-phone/

Also these include the iris scanner for security, which is pretty cool to me.
 

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Yeah, if continuum and lumia cameras aren't enough to even get you to look closer, you just don't have a bar for standards.

I'm very interested in the full announce of these phones.
 

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I wonder what the odds are of them going with carrier exclusive again? One of their best was the Icon, but you needed to be on Verizon for that one.

That's has been Microsoft's problem for a long time. Release a great device but make it as hard as possible to buy. That's largely why the Zune failed.
 

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Actually, there will be "docking" with continuum http://www.engadget.com/2015/04/29/continuum-windows-10-phone/

Also these include the iris scanner for security, which is pretty cool to me.

By "docking" I meant let me dock my phone to my PC not "acting like one" like continuum. Right now if I connect my wp8 to my W10 PC and it let me sync a some pictures, big deal.D:

My idea of docking is it will pop up as a windows/app, I can reply msgs/email using my PC's keyboard and mouse, I see a cool weblink I can c&p to txt msg and send it off to people, after I PS a picture I can drag it to whatsapp....etc.

Right now I have to jump hops to get it done. I actually email things(link, pic, files) to myself and send it off on whatsapp or txt, how stupid it is?
 

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Yeah, if continuum and lumia cameras aren't enough to even get you to look closer, you just don't have a bar for standards.

I'm very interested in the full announce of these phones.

No continuum don't interest me at all, I enjoy my 3 monitor dual xeon quadcore w/ HT and SSD. Thank you.

I also don't see the hotel I visit provide me a monitor to "continuum my phone" or my phone have the horse power to drive all the excel files, CRM, ordering system and outlooks I depend on daily at work.

As for the camera I have a 830 I know what they capable for, give me a weatherproof/waterproff 1050 and take my cash.
 

Denly

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How would continuum not allow you to do what you describe?

My understanding is continuum allow me hook my phone to a "hub" then connect it to a monitor/keyboard/mouse, no? Like I said it act like a PC that's pretty much. I need the horsepower of my PC to game, photo edit and other stuff.
 

Crono

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My understanding is continuum allow me hook my phone to a "hub" then connect it to a monitor/keyboard/mouse, no? Like I said it act like a PC that's pretty much. I need the horsepower of my PC to game, photo edit and other stuff.

Why did you mention "no docking" as a negative, then, if you aren't interested in it? Regardless, Continuum is a docking feature, whether it is done wirelessly or via physical dock.

I don't see any feature(s) that I need/want from the new offering, no 1050(1020 replacement), no water proof(like sony), no docking(I can dream) and no pen(Note). Also I prefer physical buttons.
 
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Denly

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Why did you mention "no docking" as a negative, then, if you aren't interested in it?

Not a negative I just not interested in "continuum" because I don't see myself using it.

My idea of docking(to a PC) is very different than MS's idea of docking(to a hub), to me MS missed the opportunity to take over the smartphone market because it don't do what I described. Right now when you're typing an email at work PC, you have 10 txt msgs one your phone. Instead of alt/tab to your smart phone windows to start typing reply you have to pickup your phone swap swap and swap then go back to your work.
 

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Not a negative I just not interested in "continuum" because I don't see myself using it.

My idea of docking(to a PC) is very different than MS's idea of docking(to a hub), to me MS missed the opportunity to take over the smartphone market because it don't do what I described. Right now when you're typing an email at work PC, you have 10 txt msgs one your phone. Instead of alt/tab to your smart phone windows to start typing reply you have to pickup your phone swap swap and swap then go back to your work.

That's more like Apple's Continuity/Handoff, not docking. Docking is the wrong word here. "Docking" has existed for years in the laptop space. "Syncing" or "handing off" is what you want, going by that description. And if I'm not mistaken, Microsoft either announced a similar feature is in the works for when the Windows Mobile 10 devices start shipping or it's coming in a later update (haven't really seen anything on this, though).
 
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sweenish

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No continuum don't interest me at all, I enjoy my 3 monitor dual xeon quadcore w/ HT and SSD. Thank you.

I also don't see the hotel I visit provide me a monitor to "continuum my phone" or my phone have the horse power to drive all the excel files, CRM, ordering system and outlooks I depend on daily at work.

As for the camera I have a 830 I know what they capable for, give me a weatherproof/waterproff 1050 and take my cash.

Congratulations on having a nice desktop computer. I'm sure you try to insert your specs wherever you can.

But to not see how only carrying a phone and a something like a lap dock is infinitely easier on the go is a special kind of special. And it appears that you're assuming texts and phone apps will magically stop working. Have you met Windows 10?

What do you think docking is?
 
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iphone fanboy but really enjoyed my samsung focus windows phone back in the day. If only they allowed the platform to evolve by releasing more flagship level phones and maybe bribing some developers to make some apps, winphone feels like just a missed opportunity
 

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That's more like Apple's Continuity/Handoff, not docking. Docking is the wrong word here. "Docking" has existed for years in the laptop space. "Syncing" or "handing off" is what you want, going by that description. And if I'm not mistaken, Microsoft either announced a similar feature is in the works for when the Windows Mobile 10 devices start shipping or it's coming in a later update (haven't really seen anything on this, though).

Docking might be a wrong word for this purpose, ever since Palm I always call hooking up a handheld to PC and let the PC take over as docking.
 

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Congratulations on having a nice desktop computer. I'm sure you try to insert your specs wherever you can.

But to not see how only carrying a phone and a something like a lap dock is infinitely easier on the go is a special kind of special. And it appears that you're assuming texts and phone apps will magically stop working. Have you met Windows 10?

What do you think docking is?

My reason to call it docking list above. And of course I know what docking is with laptop.

I still don't see how it is useful on the go, where you find a monitor to "continuum"? Carry one with you? Connect to the hotel room's TV? On the other hand if I can control my phone from a laptop I have the power of a x86 and storage, a KB/MS, work and social life all in one unit.

Isn't it better than Phone + hub + monitor + mouse?
 

sweenish

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My reason to call it docking list above. And of course I know what docking is with laptop.

I still don't see how it is useful on the go, where you find a monitor to "continuum"? Carry one with you? Connect to the hotel room's TV? On the other hand if I can control my phone from a laptop I have the power of a x86 and storage, a KB/MS, work and social life all in one unit.

Isn't it better than Phone + hub + monitor + mouse?

You don't seem to know what docking is, you keep using it wrong. So, I don't really believe you there. You're reason to call something that isn't docking, docking, is what exactly? You gave your definition, which is wrong. That's not really an explanation. It's just your wrong definition of docking.

And you describe two units in your second paragraph, and completely ignore what I said about a lap dock. This tells me you don't actually get how continuum will function, and that you're not reading what I'm writing.

Continuum is basically going to be like those ZenFones. All the power is in the phone, you pop it in different shells for different use cases. Yes, ONE of those use cases is a very traditional desktop dock, like you keep insisting is the only possible solution. Continuum will give you a phone, tablet, laptop, and desktop experience depending on what you've connected it to.

I know these aren't new, but this functionality will basically allow a college student to have all of their computing needs with them at all times. The phone has the brains, and they get a laptop shell (where the phone can either serve as a second screen or the cursor) for a traditional Windows experience.

Continuum is what the Ubuntu phone was supposed to be, which is a real all-inclusive solution.

You keep describing what you think is one unit, failing to recognize that's it's two. I am describing one unit, with accessories. You're describing two that happen to work together. After all these posts, how are you not seeing that?
 

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You don't seem to know what docking is, you keep using it wrong. So, I don't really believe you there. You're reason to call something that isn't docking, docking, is what exactly? You gave your definition, which is wrong. That's not really an explanation. It's just your wrong definition of docking.

And you describe two units in your second paragraph, and completely ignore what I said about a lap dock. This tells me you don't actually get how continuum will function, and that you're not reading what I'm writing.

Continuum is basically going to be like those ZenFones. All the power is in the phone, you pop it in different shells for different use cases. Yes, ONE of those use cases is a very traditional desktop dock, like you keep insisting is the only possible solution. Continuum will give you a phone, tablet, laptop, and desktop experience depending on what you've connected it to.

I know these aren't new, but this functionality will basically allow a college student to have all of their computing needs with them at all times. The phone has the brains, and they get a laptop shell (where the phone can either serve as a second screen or the cursor) for a traditional Windows experience.

Continuum is what the Ubuntu phone was supposed to be, which is a real all-inclusive solution.

You keep describing what you think is one unit, failing to recognize that's it's two. I am describing one unit, with accessories. You're describing two that happen to work together. After all these posts, how are you not seeing that?

I stand correct, "continuum" is pretty much let you connect your WP/tab to a KB/MS/LCD and "act" like tradition PC with some app take adv to it(kb/ms). Quote from windows central

http://www.windowscentral.com/highs...martphone-strategy-rules-engagement-continuum

"As we know, Continuum on tablets and hybrids allows the Windows OS to switch between the traditional desktop environment and the touch-friendly Modern UI, depending on the hardware configuration.

If a device like the Microsoft Surface is connected to a keyboard, for example, the user is presented with the familiar desktop environment."

http://www.windowscentral.com/why-continuum-may-succeed-where-atrix-failed

"Windows 10 empowers developers to code a single app that is optimized to work as users would expect with a mouse and keyboard (shortcuts and all) for the desktop environment. Plus it maintains the small touch environment of a phone.
Additionally Continuum enabled Windows phones can connect wirelessly to a keyboard and mouse, and with a Miracast set-up, to a larger display. Microsoft will also provide a hub currently dubbed the 'Munchkin' (unconfirmed $99 price) that will have numerous ports to facilitate a wired connection."

You keep saying I use "docking" wrong and I agreed I using it wrong, I also gave my reason for it. So we done with "docking"?

Continuum don't solve my biggest issue with smartphone at this stage,
1) I am on my work or personal PC, my phone rec'd a bunch of msgs I have to drop my kb/ms then pickup the phone then type on a small screen with a tiny keyboard. When I am done get back to my PC continues what I am doing.
2) If I want to share information from my PC to my whatsapp group I have to jump hops like email a web link to myself or upload it to web storage then download it back to the phone or put the link on notepad and save that notepad to phone's storage.

A little inconvenience isn't it?

If MS let my W8/W10 PC/Laptop take full control on my WP it will save me a lot of time.
 

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You don't seem to know what docking is, you keep using it wrong. So, I don't really believe you there. You're reason to call something that isn't docking, docking, is what exactly? You gave your definition, which is wrong. That's not really an explanation. It's just your wrong definition of docking.

There's no need to be a dick about it.

What he's describing is exactly what I'd call docking. He's docking his phone into his PC and letting his PC take over his phone.

Just having kb, mouse and monitor support on a phone (which has been around for ages) wouldn't necessary constitute docking to me.
 

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