Microsoft: New CPUs will require Windows 10

[mv2devnull]

The "sticky" part is OEM systems.

Not really. OEM vendor can surely craft a custom image that is dropped into each blank machine. One with additional drivers.

 

[postmortemIA]

Not really. OEM vendor can surely craft a custom image that is dropped into each blank machine. One with additional drivers.

I think he meant user trying to reinstall Windows on the OEM system.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Not really. OEM vendor can surely craft a custom image that is dropped into each blank machine. One with additional drivers.

Of course. This was more from the private end-user perspective, who may not be familiar with windows imaging. Corporate IT won't have any problems either doing this.

 

[tvdang7]

So can we still install window7 or 8/8.1 and upgrade to window 10? or do we have to buy windows 10.

 

[Dahak]

So can we still install window7 or 8/8.1 and upgrade to window 10? or do we have to buy windows 10.

Yes, the free upgrade run until June 2016 after that point.... not sure what will happen.


This is more as someone here posted that if intel brings out say the AVX-1024 instructions to their cpus, MS is not going to go to the effort of trying to backport that support into older windows 7/8/8.1 etc or if say usb 4 comes along, MS is not going to do any work to get that to work in older os'es than 10

 

[tvdang7]

Yes, the free upgrade run until June 2016 after that point.... not sure what will happen.


This is more as someone here posted that if intel brings out say the AVX-1024 instructions to their cpus, MS is not going to go to the effort of trying to backport that support into older windows 7/8/8.1 etc or if say usb 4 comes along, MS is not going to do any work to get that to work in older os'es than 10

well I meant like if i were to build a next gen intel 6xxx cpu computer or 7xxx if it comes before the upgrade deadline. can I still use an older windows key to upgrade after that.

 

[danny123]

This is all over news. New processors will support only Windows 10. I don't like it. I don't like it. What MS want to do. everyone has choice

 

[Dahak]

well I meant like if i were to build a next gen intel 6xxx cpu computer or 7xxx if it comes before the upgrade deadline. can I still use an older windows key to upgrade after that.

Sorry had to read your line a few times.
The Upgrade dead line is for the current machine.
So if you build a machine say the 6xxx but do not upgrade before the deadline then you would have to purchase the os like normal

or to put another way, if you want to get win10 for free, you have to do it before the deadline. On a new machine or old machine.
IF you build after the deadline you will have to buy the os new

 

[Dahak]

This is all over news. New processors will support only Windows 10. I don't like it. I don't like it. What MS want to do. everyone has choice

Well the older versions of windows could still be installed but you might be missing some features on that older version of windows, for example more power management control

 

[Ketchup]

And they are already backpedaling. Didn't take long, did it?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3024...o-chips-will-support-windows-7-after-all.html

 

[stockwiz]

Oh well. Instead of whining about windows 10 just install it. It's not that bad... use classic shell if you want. Sure it's not as pretty as 7 but hey change isn't so bad.

 

[Rhonda the Sly]

And they are already backpedaling. Didn't take long, did it?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3024...o-chips-will-support-windows-7-after-all.html

Microsoft, per their original press release, had always intended to have a list of Kaby Lake devices with which they'd support Windows 7. No support pretty much means that new features from the SoC aren't going to get support from Microsoft. Maybe I missed something in the article but I'm not seeing the backpedaling.

 

[Ketchup]

Microsoft, per their original press release, had always intended to have a list of Kaby Lake devices with which they'd support Windows 7. No support pretty much means that new features from the SoC aren't going to get support from Microsoft. Maybe I missed something in the article but I'm not seeing the backpedaling.

We shall see. Could be just people reading too much into Microsoft's original statement, could be Microsoft actually doing what customers want. Hey, Windows has a start menu again, so the sky's the limit, right?

 

[MongGrel]

Actually, after looking into it a bit might be a pretty true.

But I'm all ready using WIN10 11082 on the X5680 X58 I guess, and the non beta on the X5650 X58.

So I guess I'm not that concerned.

 

[sweenish]

Get new hardware, run new software.

I can see only a minor-ish issue on the enterprise side, but even then this is overblown. As is any news with MS.

 

[postmortemIA]

you can't say that they didn't warn us early

 

[balloonshark]

This is a crappy thing to do to Windows 8 users considering it's only been out about 3 1/4 years. This is just another move by Microsoft to force people onto Windows 10.

 

[yinan]

Why is everyone so upset about this? They are just refusing to guarantee support for new tech in old software. If hardware vendors want to release drivers they can.

 

[Dahak]

This is a crappy thing to do to Windows 8 users considering it's only been out about 3 1/4 years. This is just another move by Microsoft to force people onto Windows 10.

Well if you are on 8, you should be on 8.1 as they are kinda treating 8.1 as a service pack and they usually only supported the original for I think it was 2 years after the service pack was released

Why is everyone so upset about this? They are just refusing to guarantee support for new tech in old software. If hardware vendors want to release drivers they can.

Exactly, its like thinking that Microsoft should back port DX9 from XP to Win95.. at a certain point going forward you have to cut off somewhere. So if you get a cannonlake cpu that has say "ultrapower saver" in addition to the same that is in the current haswell cpus' then you could install say 7 on the cannonlake and may not get support for the "ultrapower saver".

 

[nerp]

Apple has been doing this in rather didactic fashion for years and people gobble that stuff up no problem. Microsoft is now going to release OS updates for Windows 10 just as Apple releases revisions to OSX. The OS is a platform to sell services. Microsoft isn't going to offer support which does not mean the software won't work. Backwards compatibility isn't going away. MS just isn't going to blow as much resources supporting outdated versions.

 

[readymix]

clearing the artificial skylake hatchet list- early list

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/skylake-support

exclusive to high end stuff makes it desirable. still, impressive for a antiquated dead as a doornail operating system. Suckers be missing their big square box metro clicks, social connectors, steaming news trivia, more apps than anyone, except maybe apple.......and google. Games!!!, omg, XBOX!!!, and and DX12 for the love of god.

 

[JackMDS]

http://www.zdnet.com/article/heres-...hat-will-be-supported-when-running-windows-7/

 

[ShintaiDK]

Apple has been doing this in rather didactic fashion for years and people gobble that stuff up no problem. Microsoft is now going to release OS updates for Windows 10 just as Apple releases revisions to OSX. The OS is a platform to sell services. Microsoft isn't going to offer support which does not mean the software won't work. Backwards compatibility isn't going away. MS just isn't going to blow as much resources supporting outdated versions.

Exactly. :thumbsup:

 

[Oyeve]

Well, so much for my P2 AGP win3.1 retro DOS game PC.

 

[KentState]

With the PC market dying a slow death, MS has to adapt. This means not spending time and money on backward compatibility. Apple has somehow made this model successful and they have the added benefit of a very profitable smartphone business. Windows is an important foundation, but web services and enterprise software are their bread and butter.