Microsoft OneCare Review

Schadenfroh

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Memory Usage (all in megabytes):
Processes:
MpEng.exe: 21.920
msfwsvc.exe: 3.280
winss.exe: 20.456
winssnotify.exe: 6.576

Total Memory Usage 52.232 (XP machine)

Installation:
I put the CD into my Windows XP SP2 machine and launched the install. It went out to the internet and had me register it with Microsoft. You can use this on three different PCs in the same house and I set up a "profile" of sorts on the Microsoft site, labeling the install as my notebook PC. It then installed One Care on my system. One does not even need the CD to install Windows One care, just go through the website and install it after logging in with your .NET passport. Please note that OneCare works with Windows Vista, but not Vista x64.

Antivirus:
The antivirus is easy to use and integrates into Windows easily. Like most, it has right-click context menus where you can scan individual files. It always scans memory and the boot sector for viruses when you scan even one file, much like antivir. Its options are accessed the same way as the others, in the one care panel you can hit settings and then hit the antivirus tab. The interface on the settings page is very minimalist. Options include enabling/disabling the real time protection, enabling/disabling heuristics, viewing of the virus vault, and exceptions. The lack of many options show one care's bias to being minimalist and simple. For detection rates, please see The AntiVirus Detection Rate Thread.

AntiSpyware:
Anyone can get the Antispyware part of windows OneCare for free by downloading Windows Defender. As many of you know, it is a descendant of GIANT antispyware, a respected antispyware product of its day that Microsoft bought. Windows Defender in OneCare 1.5 is integrated into the realtime antivirus engine in OneCare and utilize the same service, which offers active protection against viruses/spyware. OneCare treats spyware as if it were viruses and scans for spyware and viruses in the same scan.

Firewall:
This firewall is a bidirectional (incoming and outgoing protection) firewall. It has possibly the best default settings of any firewall that I have used in regards to the need for end user intervention. It seems to have a large database of responses to certain "safe" programs and allows them access to the internet when it is set to auto, it only prompts you for things that it is unsure of (which seems to be few and far between). You can change this at anytime and use the more traditional "training" method of manually telling it what to phone home and what not to phone home. It seems to be neutral, as I blocked several Microsoft applications from phoning home and it stopped them. (for example, when WGA validation tool used to phone home everyday). It notifies you when it blocks programs, but you can disable that in the settings. It has the same minimalist and simple settings panel as the others, with your only options is a slider to tell it "prompt" (training mode), "auto" (use the OC database to automatically see if it is safe for the program to phone home), and off. The new version of OneCare (1.5) also has a new paranoid (restricted) setting in which according to Microsoft, "file sharing and remote desktop are disabled, and other open ports in the advanced settings are closed." The advanced settings allow for the usual software firewall options found in other bidirectional firewall applications.

Backup:
I have not used this feature and will not comment on it.

Tune Up:
This does a variety of things. First it removes unneeded files (identical to windows built in cleanmgr), then it defrags your hard drive (identical to windows built-in defragger), then it scans for viruses / spyware, checks for updates to windows (identical to Windows Update's express option), and then checks to see if you need to backup anything. You cannot disable the tune up scheduler, but you can tell it how often (up to 4 weeks) to do it.

Phishing Filter
OneCare now monitors IE 7's phishing filter. It will bug you if you try to turn it off. There is probably a registry key to bypass this, but I suggest leaving the phishing filter on. The phishing filter slowed my browsing down. I was able to find this IE 7 update from Microsoft that fixes the slowdown, it does not come from Windows Update or Autoupdate and must be put on manually.

Other:
One Care has a very nice logging system. You can generate detailed logs about the activities of all its programs and display them in an HTML page. Microsoft seems to offer great tech support for this product.

Conclusion: Windows OneCare does not slow down one's system. I cannot tell a difference in gaming or general use from when I had it installed and when I had no antivirus installed on my notebook (Toshiba P105 S921). It has a high amount of ram usage, but one also has to recall that it is essentially running 3 products at the same time and Microsoft seems to be reducing ram usage in each new release. The Tune Up could use a little work, it has little to offer with it using mostly built in windows applications. This is also one of the few security suites that fully support Microsoft Windows Vista.

In short, One Care focuses on ease of use and simplicity. It excels in both respects. It would make a great security package for the less savvy and it is affordable (you can use one copy for up to 3 PCs in your home).

Current deals on OneCare
[*]Antivirus and Firewall Deals Thread


Software -> Security
-Schadenfroh
 

Kriz

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I'm a user of OneCare's perpetual beta, and I rather enjoy how simple it makes things. Although, I was considering switching to a combination of AOL's/Kaspersky's Active Virus Shield and Comodo Firewall.
 

Kriz

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I do believe the Devs read the official forum:

http://forums.microsoft.com/windowsonecare/default.aspx?siteid=2

and there's always the blog, you can leave comments for the devs:

http://windowsonecare.spaces.live.com/

I just submitted beta user survey a week ago; I did indicate that it does not have an enough Advanced options, that it should be lighter on the system resources, and that they should continue to work on the anti-virus' detection rates.

the survey also said that they are considering adding in a registry cleaner.

as for the integration of Defender into OneCare, they've been saying that it will be happening for some time now, as indicated in this blog entry: http://windowsonecare.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!C29701F38A601141!1812.entry?_c11_blogpart_blogpart=blogview&_c=blogpart#permalink
 

John

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Thanks for the nice review Schad. One thing I find interesting is that before MS acquired Giant their anti-spyware had one of the best detection and removal capabilities on the market. Now they are mediocre at best and lie in the shadows of Spy Sweeper and Spyware Doctor.

I would like to see virus.gr or avcomparitives review the One Care antivirus to see how it stacks up. In fact I will make an effort to email them about it.
 

DanBaer

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Thanks for the great review,
I am thinking of dumping Symantic System WOrks for One care.
I have already stoped using Norton SPeed disk for Diskeeper. I love diskeeper. Can I use the One Care tune up but disable its defrag and still use Diskeeper?
 

Schadenfroh

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It only defrags during a tune up. The defrag will not run during the tune up if your disk is not fragmented at a certain percentage anyways. One Care 1.5 looks like a big improvement (it is in beta). I also looks like they merged Windows Defender into the one care antivirus and treat viruses and spyware as the same thing (scanning merged) from what I have read thus far, something that I have wished that the big players would do for years, as I consider both an equal threat.
 

DanBaer

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An update. There is no way to turn off the defrag as yet. That means if you are using Diskeeper or if you do not want your huge additional HDD that has all your videos on it defraged you are out of luck. There are many complaining about this on the MS forum.
 

Schadenfroh

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They announced that the next gen version of One Care is set to come out the same day as vista. See the one care forums for more details.
 

DanBaer

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Not being able to disable defrag on a per drive basis makes it a no deal.
Where is the banker, Hey Howie, NO DEAL!
 

Schadenfroh

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12/28/06 update to the review is now live

Changes:
[*]Updated memory usage
[*]Link to detection rate tests for OneCare Antivirus added (thanks John)
[*]Updated AntiSpyware section
[*]Updated Install section
[*]Added mention of OneCare's new monitoring of the Phishing filter and linked Microsoft fix for slowdowns caused by the Phishing Filter
[*]Updated the conclusion to refelct changes in the program.

Memory usage has greatly increased since I last reviewed this thread:Q, but this computer has not been restarted in a week if that changes anything. I had an IE page open as well (just an FuseTalk post box to type the ram numbers in). These might have had small effects on the RAM usage.

Anywho... hope this helps
 

Schadenfroh

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Windows OneCare 1.5 has been released, I will update the OP when I have time to review it, but here are some quick changes about it:

[*]Full Windows Vista support
[*]True integration of Windows Defender and One Care (no reason to have Windows Defender installed anymore, should help with ram usage)
http://windowsonecare.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!C29701F38A601141!3842.entry
 

Schadenfroh

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2/3/07 update to the review is now up

Changes:
[*]Updated all sections of the review to coincide with the new 1.5 version of OneCare
[*]Updated memory usage
 

WT

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MS is providing this for only $19 for three licenses and I wouldn't mind going with it, but I've spent 50+ this weekend already and the wifey is getting antsy ...

*wuuu-pishhhh*

Offer is good til Feb. 12, so maybe next Friday I'll roll my magical dice and see if I can't pick up on that offer.
 

srp49ers

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I tried to download the trail version yesterday to see if I like it, but its not compatible with vista x64, is the case or is something else wrong.
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: srp49ers
I tried to download the trail version yesterday to see if I like it, but its not compatible with vista x64, is the case or is something else wrong.

http://windowsonecare.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!C29701F38A601141!3812.entry
x32 vista only, neither Microsoft (nor the world) seems to like 64bit users
This release was particularly challenging with respect to the testing, since we had to make sure it worked well on a new OS (Windows Vista)
My copy of xp64bit is still rotting on the shelf due to lack of driver / software support.
 

Tipsy Turtle

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I installed OneCare on my laptop which is running Vista Home Premium. Seemed to work just fine. Didn't seem to create a drag on the system, I have 1.5gb RAM in the lappy, and worked to my expectations.

Granted it isn't the most configurable product in the world, but it works.

My one gripe, and what made me uninstall it, is that after installing it my wireless connection would randomly drop and I could not reconnect without a reboot. I fought this for 2 days before I decided to strip all the software off one at a time except the OS and see if the problem kept occuring. First thing I uninstalled was OneCare since it was the last thing I put on. Since doing so my wireless has been working flawlessly for 3 days.

I have since installed NOD32 as my AV and I'm happy with it.

Seems like OneCare could be a great product if they just added a bit more ability to configure it. However I won't be putting it back on my laptop since it was causing my wireless to lose connectivity.
 
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