Except you are comparing two different ideas completely. Cars are not like software in any way. Cars contain thousands of moving parts that require maintenance, parts, and labor. Car companies benefit from having more of their cars on the road, longer. Software developers don't benefit from having people using old, usually antiquated software. Software is also not manufactured using unskilled labor. It takes an individual, or team of individuals, to create a unique product. Very similar to a book or music. Writers and musicians gain nothing from the used sale of their products. More importantly, publishers and record companies see nothing from the used sale of said products. This hurts developers and software publishers just as much.
Do you think the "used" sale of art increases the "new" sale of art? Of course not.
and multiply the price by a grip.. don't forget that part.Welcome to PC gaming 15 years ago...
They get one purchase on a game that is rented out several times. They see no money from used game sales. Just how is cutting that out going to make their overall numbers plummet?
That said it won't happen
After borrowing a copy of Mass Efffect from a friend and really enjoying it, I bought ME2 and 3 on launch day
They made their money on the sale of the disc just like every movie studio did when blockbuster was renting them. You don't have to like the fact that people will choose to save money wherever they can but its reality. I promise you if they require new purchases for every game they will lose tons of sales. You think they aren't making money now? Implement this and find out what Ramen noodles for dinner every night is like.
That said it won't happen. This is nothing but someone "adding" a bit to the truth to make it out to be something it isn't. The only thing that will happen is a requirement for internet to confirm you have an actual game and not some pirated version. How do I know? Call it a hunch and a bit of common sense.
the problem with this argument is that steam is currently working this way, and everyone i know who uses steam loves it. granted there are more sales and stuff on there, but if it were to go the route of steam, who's to say there won't be more sales and what not? we're all just assuming that if it goes this route, that all games will be $60 all the time with a very rare sale.
nothing we are talking about the next gens.. and he is right.
why buy a full priced over priced console game when I coulda have rented it or bought it used.
Steam blows even current games out at below half price at times. why use anything else?
especially with the new TV mode.
the problem with this argument is that steam is currently working this way, and everyone i know who uses steam loves it. granted there are more sales and stuff on there, but if it were to go the route of steam, who's to say there won't be more sales and what not? we're all just assuming that if it goes this route, that all games will be $60 all the time with a very rare sale.
So you felt like developers didn't deserve any of your money?
not sure wtf steam has to do with current consoles.
so basically you are someone who doesn't put money in the devs pockets anyways, so i'm pretty sure you will have not have an effect on the industry.
Steam has a lot to do with it because it will sway me away from the consoles with how they deliver the games. Bottom line is 95% of the games out there are developed for the PC and why in the hell would I buy it on a console when I can get it cheaper through steam? Before I had steam I had the Xbox and did all my gaming on the Xbox but steam has been a game changer. Unless MS does what steam has done there really no reason for me to get a console.
Steam has a lot to do with it because it will sway me away from the consoles with how they deliver the games. Bottom line is 95% of the games out there are developed for the PC and why in the hell would I buy it on a console when I can get it cheaper through steam? Before I had steam I had the Xbox and did all my gaming on the Xbox but steam has been a game changer. Unless MS does what steam has done there really no reason for me to get a console.
So you felt like developers didn't deserve any of your money?
Hasn't affected Steam in the 9+ years it's been operating.
I wish people would stop treating rumors as facts and only get into a hissy fit if Microsoft actually were to announce something like this. Plus, I'd like to hear whatever benefits, if any, such a new system would provide. Steam doesn't let you resell games and in exchange, you can download a new copy to any computer you've signed onto and we get cheaper games.
No used games != retailers banned from lowering prices on new copies (and yes, there will still be some sort of physical distribution system, we don't live in 2050 where fast Internet is plentiful).
Steam has a lot to do with it because it will sway me away from the consoles with how they deliver the games. Bottom line is 95% of the games out there are developed for the PC and why in the hell would I buy it on a console when I can get it cheaper through steam? Before I had steam I had the Xbox and did all my gaming on the Xbox but steam has been a game changer. Unless MS does what steam has done there really no reason for me to get a console.
I bought a TON of DLC for used games I got off Kijiji, so the devs still got something out of me.
Doesn't bother me much if they cut out used games though, I'll just buy one $60 game a year from here on and play the hell out of it, and then pick up a bunch of $20 ones a year or two after they came out. Never buying those used games will no longer expose me to the smaller developers and niche games. Oh well.
Unless they discount games like they do on Steam, then I'd gladly buy a shwack of $30 newish games.
Because you don't have to spend $1000 on a PC to "get it cheaper". You spend $300 on a console and then pay the same price as PC gamers for all the new big named games. AAA PC / Console titles don't drop in price fast. And when they do it is for different reasons. People think the price drops are because of some magical system where Valve wants to reward PC gamers. When in reality most of those games don't sell well so they go on sale. Look at games like CoD. Those go on sale? Not for a VERY long time. Because they sell at $60. When the price drops on console, it drops on PC as well.
And the 95% number, to be honest, is probably right. The thing though is 95% of that 95%, nobody gives a shit about because they are terrible.
How many people play games on PC's compared to Xbox/PS3? Sure I love Steam and the prices but practically no one I know games on a PC. I have almost 200 games on Steam but sometimes would rather buy the same game on a console so I can play with friends.
This is no indication of anything but steam has around 55,000,000 users. Xbox Live has around 30,000,000 last I checked. There is probably many people who never connect their xbox online though.
This is no indication of anything but steam has around 55,000,000 users. Xbox Live has around 30,000,000 last I checked. There is probably many people who never connect their xbox online though.
Personally, I do know more people that game on PC than console. But I also am a software developer and they are usually into more 'nerdy' things like computers. The majority of people, however, game on console.So you know more people that game on their PC than game on their console? That's the first I've ever heard of that.
The fact of the matter is that if you're going to play a game with a friend it's more than likely going to be on a console, not a PC.