Microsoft to users: Prove it!

[biostud]

Uhm, I got an winXP pro product key with my HP laptop it states 1-2 CPU, does this mean I can use it on another computer legally?

 

[meltdown75]

Wow, rocket science.

So all a legitimate XP user has to do to get a 'discount' on another copy of XP is install the pirated version? I'm in... what was that damn key... FCKGW...

Someone hit the nail on the head when they said "always one step behind". I'm sure some hax0rz will have any verification / authentication system broken in about 13 minutes.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: SampSon
They are always one step behind the curve.

MS offers reduced prices on XP, does anyone know how reduced?

Damnit...I need to read the article better. ..........

~$7.00 w/ the open campus agreement Microsoft has with a lot of major universities.

Obviously that isn't available to a large majority of users. I've been able to buy retail versions of XP pro off of Ebay for ~$110.00. Realistically, it's a pretty small amount of money compared to high ticket items like video cards and high speed processors. You HAVE TO use an operating system every second the PC is on. How often do you really use all the processing power or that $400 video card?

In the grand scheme of things the actual cost of use is ridiculously low on an OS.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: SampSon
They are always one step behind the curve.

MS offers reduced prices on XP, does anyone know how reduced?

~$7.00 w/ the open campus agreement Microsoft has with a lot of major universities.

Obviously that isn't available to a large majority of users. I've been able to buy retail versions of XP pro off of Ebay for ~$110.00. Realistically, it's a pretty small amount of money compared to high ticket items like video cards and high speed processors. You HAVE TO use an operating system every second the PC is on. How often do you really use all the processing power or that $400 video card?

In the grand scheme of things the actual cost of use is ridiculously low on an OS.

Bill? Is that you?

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: biostud
Uhm, I got an winXP pro product key with my HP laptop it states 1-2 CPU, does this mean I can use it on another computer legally?

No. 1-2 CPU is for single or dual processor systems.

 

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: SampSon
They are always one step behind the curve.

MS offers reduced prices on XP, does anyone know how reduced?

~$7.00 w/ the open campus agreement Microsoft has with a lot of major universities.

Obviously that isn't available to a large majority of users. I've been able to buy retail versions of XP pro off of Ebay for ~$110.00. Realistically, it's a pretty small amount of money compared to high ticket items like video cards and high speed processors. You HAVE TO use an operating system every second the PC is on. How often do you really use all the processing power or that $400 video card?

In the grand scheme of things the actual cost of use is ridiculously low on an OS.

I'd buy it for $7 bucks. Not for $100. I'll stick with my win2k.

In the grand scheme of things, the actual cost of everything nears zero.

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: biostud
Uhm, I got an winXP pro product key with my HP laptop it states 1-2 CPU, does this mean I can use it on another computer legally?

No. 1-2 CPU is for single or dual processor systems.

From microsoft.com

The End-User License Agreement (EULA) for many Microsoft application software products contains the following sentence: "The primary user of the computer on which the SOFTWARE PRODUCT is installed may make a second copy for his or her exclusive use on a portable computer." If your EULA contains this sentence, then, subject to the conditions mentioned, you may make a second copy of the software. Note that you must be the primary user of the computer on which the software is installed. The primary user is the individual who uses the computer most of the time it is in use. Only that individual is entitled to use the second copy. Furthermore, the software must be installed on the local hard disk of your computer; you are not entitled to make and use a second copy on your portable computer if you run the primary copy of the software from a network server. Finally, only one secondary copy may be made; you may install this copy on more than one portable computer.

I wonder if it applies the other way around.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: ravana

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Good opportunity for thousands to switch to Apple with the MINI?

but what about all the gamezzz dude

On a more serious note...I dont understand why users of pirated copies should get a discount when I went out and paid full price....where do I sign up to get my money back?...cuz since I went out and bought a legit copy in the first place I think they should give me a bigger discount.

Fvckin' A.
That's retarded. You award pirates by giving them cheap software and pissing off the regular customers at the same time. :thumbsdown:

Looks like I have to go with a pirated WinXP just to get the discount. :roll:

 

[dullard]

First I read this:

As an incentive to authentic users,"Microsoft is also offering downloads of add-on software and discounts on games and online services."

Then I read this:

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
That's retarded. You award pirates by giving them cheap software and pissing off the regular customers at the same time. :thumbsdown:

:roll:

Some people just don't understand the world we live in I guess.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: SampSon
They are always one step behind the curve.

MS offers reduced prices on XP, does anyone know how reduced?

1 dollar

Oh No worries for me I am legit to legit to quit!



Ausm

 

[rh71]

like anyone really cares about add-ons...

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: vi_edit
Didn't they already start doing this with SP1 and blocking a ton of commonly pirated keys from downloading it?

At which point the pirates found a way around it, just like they will probably do this time.

It will however stop the people "sharing" install disks and keys who are not necessarly techincal...

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: SampSon
They are always one step behind the curve.

MS offers reduced prices on XP, does anyone know how reduced?

Damnit...I need to read the article better. ..........

~$7.00 w/ the open campus agreement Microsoft has with a lot of major universities.

Obviously that isn't available to a large majority of users. I've been able to buy retail versions of XP pro off of Ebay for ~$110.00. Realistically, it's a pretty small amount of money compared to high ticket items like video cards and high speed processors. You HAVE TO use an operating system every second the PC is on. How often do you really use all the processing power or that $400 video card?

In the grand scheme of things the actual cost of use is ridiculously low on an OS.

:beer::thumbsup:

Often the same people bitching about the OS (and ususally pirating it) are also ones who are able to purchase $400 video cards. :roll:

 

[cliftonite]

Good thing my school gives out most Microsoft software for free.

 

[isekii]

So you pirate, and you get offered a discount price ?

what about the good ol' Boy Scouts ?

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser

Originally posted by: ravana

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Good opportunity for thousands to switch to Apple with the MINI?

but what about all the gamezzz dude

On a more serious note...I dont understand why users of pirated copies should get a discount when I went out and paid full price....where do I sign up to get my money back?...cuz since I went out and bought a legit copy in the first place I think they should give me a bigger discount.

Fvckin' A.
That's retarded. You award pirates by giving them cheap software and pissing off the regular customers at the same time. :thumbsdown:

Looks like I have to go with a pirated WinXP just to get the discount. :roll:

That's after you finish serving jail time

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: dullard
First I read this:

As an incentive to authentic users,"Microsoft is also offering downloads of add-on software and discounts on games and online services."

Then I read this:

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
That's retarded. You award pirates by giving them cheap software and pissing off the regular customers at the same time. :thumbsdown:

:roll:

Some people just don't understand the world we live in I guess.

Nope, I don't understand the world if MS is giving pirates discounts on the OS but I have to pay full price just because I'm staying legit.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser

Originally posted by: ravana

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Good opportunity for thousands to switch to Apple with the MINI?

but what about all the gamezzz dude

On a more serious note...I dont understand why users of pirated copies should get a discount when I went out and paid full price....where do I sign up to get my money back?...cuz since I went out and bought a legit copy in the first place I think they should give me a bigger discount.

Fvckin' A.
That's retarded. You award pirates by giving them cheap software and pissing off the regular customers at the same time. :thumbsdown:

Looks like I have to go with a pirated WinXP just to get the discount. :roll:

That's after you finish serving jail time

Well OK then, I still think the discount idea svcks balls.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Nope, I don't understand the world if MS is giving pirates discounts on the OS but I have to pay full price just because I'm staying legit.

Ok quick lesson. People earning $500 a year in 3rd world countries can not and will not buy $100 operating systems. Similarly, they can not and will not buy $100 prescription drugs. Etc. A company's main purpose is to maximize profits. You have a choice: (A) don't sell in 3rd world countries and make $0 profit there, or (B) sell your products at different prices in different countries and earn at least some significant profit there. "Hey, that is unfair", you may say. Too bad, that is the way the world works. Just like prescription drugs cost less in Africa, so do Microsoft's operating systems cost less in some countries. Microsoft annouced several months ago that they were producing a scaled back version that will sell for less.

Does this benefit pirates? Not at all. They will continue to pirate the full version and thus will be completely unaffected. Does it benefit 3rd world people who want to actually follow the law? Yes, they can buy a scaled down OS for less. Does it harm you? No.

Pricing is often dependant on location. Identical houses are more expensive in richer areas. Tough luck. Thats the way the world works.

 

[40Hands]

Software costs money?! News to me. j/k



Anyways Microsoft makes the majority of its money on companies that buy license agreements and large computer companies like Dell, Compaq, etc. The pirates out there don't give a flying sh!t about Microsoft's "extra features" as long as the security patches are still available.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Nope, I don't understand the world if MS is giving pirates discounts on the OS but I have to pay full price just because I'm staying legit.

Ok quick lesson. People earning $500 a year in 3rd world countries can not and will not buy $100 operating systems. Similarly, they can not and will not buy $100 prescription drugs. Etc. A company's main purpose is to maximize profits. You have a choice: (A) don't sell in 3rd world countries and make $0 profit there, or (B) sell your products at different prices in different countries and earn at least some significant profit there. "Hey, that is unfair", you may say. Too bad, that is the way the world works. Just like prescription drugs cost less in Africa, so do Microsoft's operating systems cost less in some countries. Microsoft annouced several months ago that they were producing a scaled back version that will sell for less.

Does this benefit pirates? Not at all. They will continue to pirate the full version and thus will be completely unaffected. Does it benefit 3rd world people who want to actually follow the law? Yes, they can buy a scaled down OS for less. Does it harm you? No.

Pricing is often dependant on location. Identical houses are more expensive in richer areas. Tough luck. Thats the way the world works.

Fair enough but NORWAY is no way near being a 3'rd world country.
edit:
What is this scaled down version of Windows? Less bloat? If so I need copy ASAP.

 

[ActuaryTm]

Originally posted by: NuclearNed
"Hey Bob, let's reward pirates by making them pay less than honest people!"

"Say, Stan, I like the way you think!!!"

Brilliant!

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Fair enough but NORWAY is no way near being a 3'rd world country.

Ok I was too overzealous with my term '3rd world'. My point is the same. Sometimes you have to cut prices in certain locations to increase company profits. And yes that seems unfair. But when did companies start considering being 'fair' or 'unfair'?

 

[Hammer]

its not hard to get cheap/reduced price/free legal copies of XP if you really want one.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Fair enough but NORWAY is no way near being a 3'rd world country.

Ok I was too overzealous with my term '3rd world'. My point is the same. Sometimes you have to cut prices in certain locations to increase company profits. And yes that seems unfair. But when did companies start considering being 'fair' or 'unfair'?

How about never?

:beer:
Cheers dullard.