Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 FREE

[Schadenfroh]

Hot for those using the already free old version of Virtual PC, so this is more of a heads up to everyone since the previous one was free as well, especially now that people running x64 systems can use it now.

Released last night it seems:
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DailyTech Article

New features included with the latest release of Microsoft Virtual PC include:

* 64-bit host operating systems
* Hardware-assisted virtualization
* Network-based installation of a guest operating system
* Running virtual machines on multiple monitors

The following operating systems are officially supported on host machines:

* Windows Server 2003
* Windows Vista Business
* Windows Vista Enterprise
* Windows Vista Ultimate
* Windows XP Professional
* Windows XP Professional x64
* Windows XP Tablet PC Edition

The following operating systems are officially supported as guests:

* Windows 98 Second Edition
* Windows 2000 Professional
* Windows XP Home, Professional, Tablet PC Edition
* Windows Vista Enterprise, Business, Ultimate
* OS/2 Warp Version 4 Fix Pack 15, OS/2 Warp Convenience Pack 1, OS/2 Warp Convenience Pack 2

 

[vetteguy]

Still does not support 64-bit guest OS...I can't believe this. How do they expect to beat the other offerings when they don't offer this important feature. I'd use this at work except I NEED 64-bit guest support, so VMWare for me.

By the way, this was not intended as a crap, just to point out to anyone who was hoping that you could now run 64-bit guests that you still can't. It does allow you to run Vista as a guest now, so that's a good thing.

 

[ElFenix]

sweet, os/2 warp

 

[Schadenfroh]

I cant seem to get Ubuntu to install using this one, anyone have a suggestion for a good linux distro to run in a virtual machine so I can play around with SAGE?

 

[EKKC]

Originally posted by: vetteguy
Still does not support 64-bit guest OS...I can't believe this. How do they expect to beat the other offerings when they don't offer this important feature. I'd use this at work except I NEED 64-bit guest support, so VMWare for me.

By the way, this was not intended as a crap, just to point out to anyone who was hoping that you could now run 64-bit guests that you still can't. It does allow you to run Vista as a guest now, so that's a good thing.

i have XP x64 installed just this past weekend so I can utilize all 4GB of RAM (only get 3.2 on 32-bit). I never realized there are so many things I need to redownload. Minor things like Powertoys, TweakUI, uxtheme.dll patch that worked fine in win32 all need to be patched or a x64 version for 64-bit...

and can 32-bit hosts support x64 guests in vmware? I never really tried this in win xp 32bit

 

[hytek369]

free is good

 

[foolish501]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I cant seem to get Ubuntu to install using this one, anyone have a suggestion for a good linux distro to run in a virtual machine so I can play around with SAGE?

any of the distro's with a graphical interface seem to crap out. i tried ubuntu when the beta came out, and all i get is graphical corruption. tried a few more including linspire, and they do the same thing

 

[vetteguy]

Originally posted by: EKKC

Originally posted by: vetteguy
Still does not support 64-bit guest OS...I can't believe this. How do they expect to beat the other offerings when they don't offer this important feature. I'd use this at work except I NEED 64-bit guest support, so VMWare for me.

By the way, this was not intended as a crap, just to point out to anyone who was hoping that you could now run 64-bit guests that you still can't. It does allow you to run Vista as a guest now, so that's a good thing.

i have XP x64 installed just this past weekend so I can utilize all 4GB of RAM (only get 3.2 on 32-bit). I never realized there are so many things I need to redownload. Minor things like Powertoys, TweakUI, uxtheme.dll patch that worked fine in win32 all need to be patched or a x64 version for 64-bit...

and can 32-bit hosts support x64 guests in vmware? I never really tried this in win xp 32bit

As long as you have 64-bit hardware, yes, you could in theory have a 64-bit guest on a 32-bit host...at least, I'm pretty sure you can.

 

[Solema]

Originally posted by: vetteguy

Originally posted by: EKKC

Originally posted by: vetteguy
Still does not support 64-bit guest OS...I can't believe this. How do they expect to beat the other offerings when they don't offer this important feature. I'd use this at work except I NEED 64-bit guest support, so VMWare for me.

By the way, this was not intended as a crap, just to point out to anyone who was hoping that you could now run 64-bit guests that you still can't. It does allow you to run Vista as a guest now, so that's a good thing.

i have XP x64 installed just this past weekend so I can utilize all 4GB of RAM (only get 3.2 on 32-bit). I never realized there are so many things I need to redownload. Minor things like Powertoys, TweakUI, uxtheme.dll patch that worked fine in win32 all need to be patched or a x64 version for 64-bit...

and can 32-bit hosts support x64 guests in vmware? I never really tried this in win xp 32bit

As long as you have 64-bit hardware, yes, you could in theory have a 64-bit guest on a 32-bit host...at least, I'm pretty sure you can.

YES, 32-bit hosts can support 64-bit guests in VMWare. I have two Windows Server 2003 x64 VM's running on top of my 32-bit Vista Ultimate install so I can test out Exchange 2007. I am not sure if there is any kind of performance penalty vs. running the guests on a 64-bit host though. Can anyone confirm on that?

 

[sam509]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I cant seem to get Ubuntu to install using this one, anyone have a suggestion for a good linux distro to run in a virtual machine so I can play around with SAGE?

This link might help:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToConfigureUbuntuForMicrosoftVirtualPC2004

 

[Navid]

The previous versions did not support USB.

Let's say you have a USB scanner that is not supported under Vista. If this supported USB, you could use it to install XP under Vista and use your scanner that way without having to dual boot.

Does this latest version support USB?

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: sam509

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I cant seem to get Ubuntu to install using this one, anyone have a suggestion for a good linux distro to run in a virtual machine so I can play around with SAGE?

This link might help:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToConfigureUbuntuForMicrosoftVirtualPC2004"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToConfigureUbuntuForMicrosoftVirtualPC2004">https://help.ubuntu.com/community.........buntuForMicrosoftVirtualPC2004</a></a>

I was using those instructions actually, finally got it to work by mounting the ISO via Alcohol 52% rather than just Virtual PC.

 

[VooDooAddict]

Anyone know if you can import a VMware image to Virtual PC? or of any free tools to do so?

Currently VMware doesn't have support for Vista as a Host OS.

 

[Schnieds]

Originally posted by: VooDooAddict
Anyone know if you can import a VMware image to Virtual PC? or of any free tools to do so?

Currently VMware doesn't have support for Vista as a Host OS.

Here you go sir:

http://vmtoolkit.com/files/default.aspx

 

[Zombeh]

can anyone answer this?

im running xp pro sp2 and i installed vista on the virtual machine. it runs a little sluggish. i put the ram to 1.3 gbs and its slow. i cant seem to install ati drivers or audio drivers either. help?

 

[jasonja]

Originally posted by: Navid
The previous versions did not support USB.

Let's say you have a USB scanner that is not supported under Vista. If this supported USB, you could use it to install XP under Vista and use your scanner that way without having to dual boot.

Does this latest version support USB?

Nope. Still lacks USB device support (not including keyboard and mouse) AFAIK. This was why I used VMWare Server on Vista; however I later found a weird bug that when I remote desktoped into my machine with VMWare Server installed the remote machine (Vista) would respond as if I was holding down the Windows key. So if I were to type the letter "F" it would would immediately behave as if I hit WindowKey+F which brings up the find files dialog. Extremely annoying and as soon as I uninstalled VMWare Server the problem went away. Now I'm using Virtual PC 2007 but I don't need USB.

 

[palehorse]

nice find.. but with no 64bit guest OS support, and no USB support, it's virtually useless for me... DOH!

 

[AtlantaBob]

Does anyone know if it will run UNofficially on XP Home? The older version (2003?) of VirtualPC did--it just popped up a warning that it wasn't officially supported. Would be nice to know before spending the time to download it. Thanks!

 

[AtlantaBob]

Originally posted by: foolish501

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I cant seem to get Ubuntu to install using this one, anyone have a suggestion for a good linux distro to run in a virtual machine so I can play around with SAGE?

any of the distro's with a graphical interface seem to crap out. i tried ubuntu when the beta came out, and all i get is graphical corruption. tried a few more including linspire, and they do the same thing

I recall that previous versions had to be started in safe graphics mode--Virtual PC didn't support 24 bit color, or somesuch, and would only support 16-bit color. Would you mind checking to see if that's still true with Ubuntu?

Thanks!

 

[SimMike2]

So this is mainly for running software and not hardware. I would really like an XP virtual machine, but one of the primary reasons would be to use my USB Scanner, which Vista doesn't support. So it looks like this scenario won't work.

Does all the hardware have to be working in Vista for the Virtual PC to be able to access the same hardware?

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: Zombeh
can anyone answer this?

im running xp pro sp2 and i installed vista on the virtual machine. it runs a little sluggish. i put the ram to 1.3 gbs and its slow. i cant seem to install ati drivers or audio drivers either. help?

Virtual machines use a generic SVGA driver. Virtual machines also do not support any type of 3d acceleration.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: AtlantaBob

Originally posted by: foolish501

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I cant seem to get Ubuntu to install using this one, anyone have a suggestion for a good linux distro to run in a virtual machine so I can play around with SAGE?

any of the distro's with a graphical interface seem to crap out. i tried ubuntu when the beta came out, and all i get is graphical corruption. tried a few more including linspire, and they do the same thing

I recall that previous versions had to be started in safe graphics mode--Virtual PC didn't support 24 bit color, or somesuch, and would only support 16-bit color. Would you mind checking to see if that's still true with Ubuntu?

Thanks!

Yeh, it is the 24-bit color that is causing all the problems, you have to go into the command prompt and tell it to use 16-bit color, shame they have not added 24-bit color support.

 

[NuNuNYC]

thanks op :beer:

 

[VooDooAddict]

Originally posted by: Schnieds

Originally posted by: VooDooAddict
Anyone know if you can import a VMware image to Virtual PC? or of any free tools to do so?

Currently VMware doesn't have support for Vista as a Host OS.

Here you go sir:

http://vmtoolkit.com/files/default.aspx

Schnieds,

Thank you.

 

[acole1]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I cant seem to get Ubuntu to install using this one, anyone have a suggestion for a good linux distro to run in a virtual machine so I can play around with SAGE?

I am working on getting Mepis working... it seems to be installing fine, so far.

I started with the Live CD version, and on the desktop there is an icon that runs the install for you.

GL

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