Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor looks awesome

[sze5003]

Yes you can. When you get to a camp and are spotted an orc will light a signal beacon and a horn will sound. Then you will be outnumbered to the point you cannot win. You can stealthily take out the enemies around the camp and around the captain/warchief. Then go in one on one.

Actually I have taken out the guards around a captain with arrows then stealth kill the captain in one shot.

That's usually what I will do as I've had the horn sounded on me before and at that point you have to run or try staying alive. As long as you take out as many orcs around the perimeter of the warcheif you should be fine.

 

[Lil Frier]

I have been watching some youtube videos of this game, and I really want to get it. My question for those of have played it a bit is this: Can you go around the camp and essentially take out orcs one by one to limit the amount that pop out when you are fighting a chief? Or do they just respawn more, no matter how many you kill around the camp? I am the kind of person that would spend an hour going around to kill 20-30 orcs if it meant that I would be seeing the chief with minimal interruptions, but that would go out the window if they just spawn more.

You can, and you can take it a step further. Once you get into the second-half, you get Brand, which turns enemies to your side. What's more, they won't attack until you command them (up on the D-Pad on Bone), unless you're attacked. What I would do is go around the Stronghold, Brand about 8-12 guys, then engage in battle. Your minions can mostly keep the enemy ones at-bay during a fight.

By the latter stages of the game, I had gone into every Captain battle and Branded the guy. The entire Nemesis map had 3-5 dead guys on there, then every other Captain was Branded. It made for a good show when you had to go complete a quest in those Strongholds, because you had a personal army there waiting.

Yes you can. When you get to a camp and are spotted an orc will light a signal beacon and a horn will sound. Then you will be outnumbered to the point you cannot win. You can stealthily take out the enemies around the camp and around the captain/warchief. Then go in one on one.

Actually I have taken out the guards around a captain with arrows then stealth kill the captain in one shot.

No, no, no. You can let that horn sound and still survive. In fact, I had more than one occasion where I left the camp of my own free will, after first letting waves of Orcs and Uruk try to take me down. Once you get Brand and Combat Drain, it becomes easy and fun to deal with them.

 

[TallBill]

I have the 10th dagger mission and a main story mission that require a heavy dose of sneaking and it is highly frustrating. I very rarely die anymore and its a personal pet peeve when a game forces me to sneak.

 

[Lil Frier]

Which main mission? I didn't find any of the weapon missions to require much effort, not sure what you're doing wrong there.

 

[TallBill]

Which main mission? I didn't find any of the weapon missions to require much effort, not sure what you're doing wrong there.

Dagger mission is where you have to kill 3 groups of torchbearers without being detected. Main mission is very similar, thee groups within a fortress without alarm being sounded. I could go reaaaalllly slow and beat them easily, but I really hate being a stealth character, especially when I can easily kill everything. I've only tried and failed a few times, but sneaking is terribly boring.

 

[Lil Frier]

Dagger mission is where you have to kill 3 groups of torchbearers without being detected. Main mission is very similar, thee groups within a fortress without alarm being sounded. I could go reaaaalllly slow and beat them easily, but I really hate being a stealth character, especially when I can easily kill everything. I've only tried and failed a few times, but sneaking is terribly boring.

I don't mind sneaking in that game at all. I'm trying to remember the dagger quest, but I can't do it, for the life of me. However, you might try using Pin in Place to help you.

For the main mission, it's all about where you have to do the kills, and how big the groups are. However, if you have Brand, I would recommend using that. Brand as many guys as you can get on their own, then let them start on the groups for you, while using your bow to take out the rest from a distance.

 

[TallBill]

You're missing my point, sneaking blows. Failed a few more times on the dagger mission.

 

[Lil Frier]

"Blows," is inaccurate. Just because you don't love it, it doesn't mean it's factually bad. I had no issue with it. As to your failure, I don't know what to say. I never had an issue with those missions, you might just be bad at them.

 

[TallBill]

"Blows," is inaccurate. Just because you don't love it, it doesn't mean it's factually bad. I had no issue with it. As to your failure, I don't know what to say. I never had an issue with those missions, you might just be bad at them.

Thanks captain obvious

 

[TallBill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMbVxotrrAY

That's the mission. Wish it was "does not trigger alarm" instead of is not detected. So stupid that someone will detect me right as I kill them or brand them.

People agree with their comments on youtube, this mission blows.

 

[Lil Frier]

Weird, I just never had trouble with it, to my recollection. I know I've done plenty of moves where the guy's awareness meter went full red, he freaked out, and I would get non-detection credit. I mean, it's not to say I'm awesome at games (don't think that I am), I just didn't realize this would actually give people trouble. All I can suggest is:

1. Don't use throwing knives, as they figure you out really quickly with them.
2. Ledge-hang and brand folks whenever possible, and use those guys to do damage to packs while you hide.
3. Don't use archery a bunch in the same spot, as they'll figure you out after 3 or so shots.

Like I said, not sure what you're failing at, so I can't offer much assistance, other than the general, "don't be dumb" things. I don't know what makes this so tough for people, and that's from the perspective of someone who has never been one for sneaking games (hate Splinter Cell, not loving The Evil Within's sneak-happy approach, and a bit too gung-ho with Assassin's Creed encounters).

By the way, that guy in the video makes it WAY too complicated. If you want the bonus objective, it should be easy to get via ledge kills. However, once you decide you just want to get the thing done (or you finish the bonus kills), you shouldn't ever touch the ground. Use the bow to clear archers, and just take the rooftops to the torch bearers. Why he gets his 5 bonus kills, then bothers to brand and work his way across on ground level, I don't know.

 

[TallBill]

#3 might be what I'm doing... I literally jumped down on an archer and branded him with a sneak attack and got spotted by him though. I'm gonna keep trying. Luckily I cleared the story mode where I couldn't set off an alarm. That one had a captain too and was still easier.

 

[Lil Frier]

You might have positioned yourself poorly before the jump, or there was another person on another rooftop in the line of sight of the guy you jumped. It's hard telling without seeing, of course.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I must say the ending and final "battle" was super disappointing.

I don't mind QTEs but the way this game made you use the analog stick to put the icon in the circle then press a random button felt poorly done. Sometimes you had very little time to see what button to hit before the circle filled and you failed. I wouldn't mind a QTE sequence like done in God of War, where you get a cinematic attack when you sufficiently damage a boss. Having the entire fight last 30seconds was stupid. Everything up to the last three missions was good. IMO the final missions ruined the rest of the game. The fights were too easy and the last couple bosses didn't even put up a real fight, they just die.

 

[Lil Frier]

I agree that they were a letdown, but I was somewhat OK, from the standpoint that it gave us a better ending dialogue setting, as opposed to the Destiny issue, where they try to explain things as you are fighting, then you miss details. That said, the final cutscene COULD have been put after an actual fight, then the QTEs could have been left out. However, this seems to be the go-to move for campaigns of late--CoD does it, Halo 4 did it, and Mordor did it (I haven't played many campaigns in the past couple of years to compare).

Even then, the game itself was awesome, so I can forgive it on the whole. The game wasn't exactly a challenging title with a final battle that was a letdown, it was easy to beat throughout. At least they didn't butcher the ending, from a storytelling standpoint.

 

[B0xt1eton]

The information on the left as you're killing reminds me a lot of Ryse

 

[BoberFett]

I know I'm way late to this party, but I started playing Mordor last night after picking it up at the Best Buy B2G1 a couple weeks ago. Pretty awesome so far, I can see why people like this game. Seems like it can only get better.

 

[mizzou]

after playing this for two days... i am happy with the variety to the nemesis system. Intel is very useful as it can make your approach different. One shot kill vs a possibly frustrating battle or death. most of my deaths are due to carelessness, but th variety of bosses and enemies can often get the best of me.

I had one bad guy at level 20. i killed him twice with a cragor and he came back to haunt me lol. He was so tough..had poison arrows and immune to damn mear everythi g except caragor bites

 

[KentState]

One of my favorite games on the year. Just enough variety to keep it fun and the story was decent.

 

[pmark]

I love getting swarmed and then having to fight your way out of it. Sometimes I just let them raise the alarm and say bring it on!

 

[Gooberlx2]

Finished this the other night. What a surprisingly fun game. The story was okay. Learning more middle-earth history was cool. The gameplay itself was pretty great and the nemesis system was brilliant. This one orc was just impossible for me to beat in the first map. He was such as asshole too. I was so satisfied, and almost sad when I finally did kill him.

Once you get the shadow kill chain skill, upgrade your weapons with their special abilities, lower the chain-hit threshold to 5 hits, and have the right runes on your weapons (stuff like cost reductions, +focus, +arrows, +health, +hits, etc...) you can almost endlessly execute enemies. It's almost kinda bad how OP you become, but so enjoyable in those mobs.

The captains and warchiefs become too easy to kill though. The thrill transitions to exploiting their weaknesses in creative ways and using the environment to kill them. At that point they're generally all immune to stealth and range + combat masters anyway.

I'll have to get the DLC.

 

[mizzou]

Any ideas on how I can kill this damn legendary captain? I can only kill him with caragors....and unfortunately he keeps playing dead! Invulnverable to combos/sneak/ranged. He hits me once with his poisoned shit and I lose all my life .

He is still showing "Dead" in my army field, but I'm sure he will come back to life again. Nice thing is that he keeps dropping high-level mods.

 

[Lil Frier]

When it says he's immune to Combat Finishers, it just means that they aren't a one-hit kill. You can still use those moves to do damage, and if you get him low on health, it'll still give him the execution. Use those, and use a lot of vaults. Stun him with the vault, then flurry him.

 

[mizzou]

When it says he's immune to Combat Finishers, it just means that they aren't a one-hit kill. You can still use those moves to do damage, and if you get him low on health, it'll still give him the execution. Use those, and use a lot of vaults. Stun him with the vault, then flurry him.

immube to vault too lol. He is OP. I cant fight him toe to toe because of the poison crossbow darts

 

[Lil Frier]

If he's ranged, then he should be pretty easy. Just keep putting pressure on him so he can't get shots off, and use a lot of Combat Finishers. You could also try possessing multiple Caragors to take into battle, or lure him towards campfires and barrels to blow up on him.

It really shouldn't be too tough, the game's a really forgiving and easy one. I'd show you, but I don't have the game anymore, let alone an identical scenario, haha.