Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor looks awesome

[SAWYER]

8 minutes long but worth watching, it tells a bit about the game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl9J_ewx3Rg

 

[Rakehellion]

Is this like The Witcher?

 

[Rakehellion]

No, I guess it's more like Assassin's Creed.

 

[futurefields]

Nonlinear open world free roaming?

 

[007ELmO]

Pre-alpha, what will the actual game look like?

 

[Kneedragger]

When is this game supposed to come out? Probably 2015?

 

[purbeast0]

looks pretty damn cool.

but i see QTE's in there so i'm sure 95% of the people on here will cry about it.

 

[Rakehellion]

I guess the PS4 is finally getting some games.

 

[purbeast0]

^^ i guess you missed the whole pre-alpha part lol.

 

[Sulaco]

looks pretty damn cool.

but i see QTE's in there so i'm sure 95% of the people on here will cry about it.

lol yeah imagine, people actually like to play their games and not have them play themselves. Crazy.

 

[mjaweeka]

I think I only saw 2 qtes in the whole thing, right before getting smashed. Tolerable.

I can't believe how similar this looks to AC. The information on the left as you're killing reminds me a lot of Ryse, also. Still, it looked pretty good for pre-alpha.

 

[Doppel]

lol yeah imagine, people actually like to play their games and not have them play themselves. Crazy.

I like to play games and watch cut scenes, not have some half assed faux interaction with the cut scene.

/crying

 

[mmntech]

Ugh, QTEs.

Looks like part Assassin's Creed, part third person beat-em-up. I've never played the other LOTR games. Movie franchises make me nervous. Though if they make it a proper nonlinear, open world game, I may consider it.

 

[cmdrdredd]

QTEs are excellent when done properly. They allow interaction with the game in a way the standard gameplay cannot. It can allow cinematic kills and the like. It's much better than having the game stop to show you a movie. Now you interact with the FMV. I never understood what the problem is with requiring you to press A or X at the correct time to do a special animation and if you fail, it shows you get smashed spectacularly. It's better than sitting there twiddling your thumbs for however long while the movie plays. Metal Gear Solid 4 got a lot of crap for it's cinematics, if they were more interactive through the usage of QTEs it would be a plus for me.

I guess a lot of people have poor reaction time and can't press a button fast enough, I dunno.

 

[Rakehellion]

I hate cut scenes. Even worse when they masquerade as gameplay.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I hate cut scenes. Even worse when they masquerade as gameplay.

Then you hate games cause ALL games have them. Even Mario has scenes you don't play.

 

[Rakehellion]

Then you hate games cause ALL games have them. Even Mario has scenes you don't play.

I don't like cut scenes therefore I don't like games? What the hell are you talking about?

 

[cmdrdredd]

I don't like cut scenes therefore I don't like games? What the hell are you talking about?

All games have cut scenes is what I'm saying. You have to deal with it as it's part of the way games are designed today.

 

[Sulaco]

To be clear, there are very different quality levels of QTE sequences. They are not all created equal.

They can be done expertly well. Games like The Last of Us, for instance, make it a seamless transition from actual gameplay, and actually the way its framed it basically is a part of the gameplay. Also of note, TLoU also had plenty of unplayable cut-scenes, which I don't think anyone could argue took away from the game experience.

But there are far too many games that clearly use QTE to lazily avoid having to program in actual gameplay, instead hoping naive players won't notice because of all the gee-whiz-ain't-that-cool effects on the screen. It looks cool as a spectator, but there is no gameplay to speak of. It's essentially the Sega CD and FMV games.

"Quick, tap left NOW! Ohhh...you didn't tap left in time, game over. Retry it. Quick, tap left NOW! You did it! Now the actor will say something else for you. Quick, tap up and B!"

That was old in 1996.

 

[Tweak155]

This game looks promising.

 

[007ELmO]

Sulaco, Last of us have a few of those "Quick, tap left!" scenes - QTE or not. Dragon's Lair.

 

[cmdrdredd]

To be clear, there are very different quality levels of QTE sequences. They are not all created equal.

They can be done expertly well. Games like The Last of Us, for instance, make it a seamless transition from actual gameplay, and actually the way its framed it basically is a part of the gameplay. Also of note, TLoU also had plenty of unplayable cut-scenes, which I don't think anyone could argue took away from the game experience.

But there are far too many games that clearly use QTE to lazily avoid having to program in actual gameplay, instead hoping naive players won't notice because of all the gee-whiz-ain't-that-cool effects on the screen. It looks cool as a spectator, but there is no gameplay to speak of. It's essentially the Sega CD and FMV games.

"Quick, tap left NOW! Ohhh...you didn't tap left in time, game over. Retry it. Quick, tap left NOW! You did it! Now the actor will say something else for you. Quick, tap up and B!"

That was old in 1996.

This is true. Ryse: Son of Rome is the most recent release that used QTEs but it did so in a way that didn't feel like it was pasted on. Instead of a prompt to press X or Y you got a color over the character you were fighting. You could press that button in order to do a special kill. If you did it correctly you got extra points and bonuses for it and if you missed the timing or missed completely you simply got a lower score (you built your character by spending xp on health and such). At first I thought it was cheap. I said "That sucks they made it so easy so you can't fail the QTE". Then when playing it, the game was more fluid in the combat this way. Once you start an execution you have to time the correct button presses but if you mess up you don't fail and have to start over. You already had to wear down your enemy before you could do an execution so the animation wasn't interrupted. It was repetitive after a time but the way it allowed the combat to flow felt very good as compared to making a mistake and having to start over.

 

[purbeast0]

the combat in the video above reminded me of ryse quite a bit actually. it even had icons over the heads of the characters, including a skull, but i'm not sure if that means you can go in for the slow-mo kill shot, which did happen a few times as well.

 

[Corporate Thug]

pre alpha, lol

seeing a lot of similarity between this and assassin creed

 

[gorcorps]

No, I guess it's more like Assassin's Creed.

Looks VERY similar to AC

Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Taking what AC does well and make the "boss battles" more interesting sounds good to me, or the combat in general. It looks like it might be a bit more combo based but it still probably isn't very deep. Hope it has enough side content to make it worthwhile.