Middle school teacher does part time porn/ everyone is upset

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RPD

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If he's a competent teacher of the material, I don't give a damn.
Pretty much this. As long as they are teaching and doing a good job at it, everything else about morals etc is on the parents.
 

Paladin3

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I have three kids, one each in college, high school and elementary school. I've also worked as a librarian and classroom aide in both an elementary and middle school. I've got nothing against a former porn actress teaching kids, so long as it doesn't interfere with the educational process or violate the morals and standards of the community she serves. In other word nobody can know.

In this case it seems the cat is out of the bag and the parents don't want her teaching their kids. Once a teacher, even a good one, looses trust with the enough of the parents they are as good as gone.

Besides, if she was a really effective teacher there would be at least some outcry from the involved parents who do care about their children's education to keep her.

Too many of us are making this a sex vs. prude debate, which is it not. The question is really weather or not you would be willing to encumber something as important as your child's education with having a known porn star teacher. She'd have to be a DAMN good teacher for me to keep my kids in her class and champion her right to do porn and teach.

Disclosure: After having worked in public education, for a damn good school district no less, I'm still of the opinion that about half of those in the teaching profession are too stupid to be doing much else.
 

Sunburn74

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Well let me ask you guys,

how important is middle school anyway? We're acting like this one lady is the final defense between your kids being lawyers vs grocery store baggers. She's not. We're talking about middle school here. And besides what the parents do in the home will be WAY more important than what any teacher (ex-porn actress or not) will do at school.
 

davmat787

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The fact that everyone is so interested in how she looks or how she is in the porn is kind of the point. The kids would react in a similiar way, she would simply be too much of a distraction to teach effectively.

It sure seems like it is standard practice for the kids these days to google their teachers name, this isn't the first time this has happened.
 

Paladin3

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If your teenage daughter came home and said "One of my teachers used to be a porn star before she became a teacher. I'm thinking about doing the same when I turn 18. I can get a regular job later."

Would you be happy or sad? So why would you let anything happen that might make this even the slightest bit more likely to come true?
 

her209

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What if the teacher was/is an NFL/NBA cheerleader? Should we not allow former/current cheerleaders teach now?
 
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The problem with most people's reasoning in this thread is that you're all approaching it from the perspective of an adult.

If a 13 year old (with hormones in full explosion) saw his hot teacher fucking on the internet, how effective do you think she could be at her job? The answer is she would be completely ineffective because any 13 year old looking at a hot teacher he saw giving head in a video will spend his entire class period trying to hide his hardon while praying he's never called up to the front of the room.

Knowing how fast things like this travel, it's safe to assume that most of the kids in the class would have seen her. Now you have a class full of 13 year olds not concentrating on classwork and a teacher who has been left irelevant as anything resembling an authority figure.

She could get away with this at the college level. There's no way in HELL she could get away with this at the middle school level.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I was going to weigh in here, but WYD said it perfectly. I remember when I was 13 and how boys acted, and this teacher would quickly lose authority and be the laughingstock of the school.
 

brainhulk

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i would be first in line for pta meetings after school. :awe:

but as long as she is just teaching non important subjects like history, music, social science, or art...i wouldn't mind.
 

Rangoric

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The problem with most people's reasoning in this thread is that you're all approaching it from the perspective of an adult.

If a 13 year old (with hormones in full explosion) saw his hot teacher fucking on the internet, how effective do you think she could be at her job? The answer is she would be completely ineffective because any 13 year old looking at a hot teacher he saw giving head in a video will spend his entire class period trying to hide his hardon while praying he's never called up to the front of the room.

Yeah I remember being that age. It wouldn't matter. Seeing her give head or not would have no influence over the fact that my hormones already had me thinking about sex all day. It'd basically be pissing into the ocean.
 

gorcorps

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i can understand why people are having issues. there is a health issue.

not to mention i don't think the kids are going to respect her as much.

I think that's the bigger issue. The article said something about being distracting to the students, and I can see that. If one of my younger teachers did porn I'd have a hard time (heh) taking her seriously. People think of pornstars as people who have absolutely no skills, so have to resort to sex to get by... it's a stigma.

I would think that some sort of amateur one-time only video could be forgiven, but this one had a stage name and multiple videos. It was definitely an ongoing job.
 

DrPizza

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Teachers are expected to be of sound moral character 24/7. They are judged by their community's standards. In many districts, if you go out to bars every weekend and get drunk at the bar... Fired.
 

Wyndru

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Regardless of how you feel about porn, the facts are out in the open and thus would be a huge distractions for the kids, parents, and other teachers. The learning environment would be lessened, so she should probably go. Not saying she can't teach, just that another district where she might be able to keep this under wraps would be best for the kids.

This 100%. I agree with this being part of her personal life and she should be free to do what she wants, but it's still porn and people are going to find out....especially kids. Once it's out in the open she has to move on. In my opinion, they should write policies to prevent this kind of thing into teacher contracts since it seems many are too dumb to realize that it isn't a good idea.

If you are going to be in the public eye, porn might not be the best side job for you. Try prostitution, it's more private :awe:
 
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HomerJS

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Regardless of how you feel about porn, the facts are out in the open and thus would be a huge distractions for the kids, parents, and other teachers. The learning environment would be lessened, so she should probably go. Not saying she can't teach, just that another district where she might be able to keep this under wraps would be best for the kids.

I wouldn't care if the word didn't get out. Being two-faced Ron Jeremy creeps me out in his case I would object. YR correct but they will have to pay her off since that's a lawsuit waiting to happpen. Caused a stir just like this...
 

SP33Demon

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I have three kids, one each in college, high school and elementary school. I've also worked as a librarian and classroom aide in both an elementary and middle school. I've got nothing against a former porn actress teaching kids, so long as it doesn't interfere with the educational process or violate the morals and standards of the community she serves. In other word nobody can know.

In this case it seems the cat is out of the bag and the parents don't want her teaching their kids. Once a teacher, even a good one, looses trust with the enough of the parents they are as good as gone.

Besides, if she was a really effective teacher there would be at least some outcry from the involved parents who do care about their children's education to keep her.

Too many of us are making this a sex vs. prude debate, which is it not. The question is really weather or not you would be willing to encumber something as important as your child's education with having a known porn star teacher. She'd have to be a DAMN good teacher for me to keep my kids in her class and champion her right to do porn and teach.

Disclosure: After having worked in public education, for a damn good school district no less, I'm still of the opinion that about half of those in the teaching profession are too stupid to be doing much else.

Well said, once you lose trust of the parents and kids it's impossible to recover from since teachers are supposed to be role models. Besides, there are a shtload of unemployed, incredible teachers just out of college who have NOT done pr0n. There is more supply vs demand, hence why it's easy to just get rid of the idiots who have done pr0n.

Also, for you idiots who keep saying the past doesn't matter, what if you were dating a woman who was a good g/f but had fcked two of your best friends (while she already had a b/f in both situations), and she's also still friends with them to boot? The past absolutely matters because it shows what types of decisions we've previously made, which could be indicative of future behavior, just like credit scores.
 

MovingTarget

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sure i guess

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Jeremy


edit: y no pics in article?


So long as his qualifications/certifications are in order, he is effective, and his other 'duties' do not enter into the classroom, why not.

Edit: Perhaps I'm being a little too easy here. Such a situation could be dealt with, but ultimately the decision about the teacher all boils down to one thing: the classroom environment. If this affects her performance in teh classroom in an irreversible way after a leave of absense, then the teacher cannot continue to teach there. Such are the ropes.
 
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Bateluer

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Regardless of how you feel about porn, the facts are out in the open and thus would be a huge distractions for the kids, parents, and other teachers. The learning environment would be lessened, so she should probably go. Not saying she can't teach, just that another district where she might be able to keep this under wraps would be best for the kids.

This. Its not the fact that she did it, its the fact that every student in the school likely immediately went home and downloaded it. That's got to trash her effectiveness as a teacher.
 

classy

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If you wanna be a religous leader, a pastor or priest, work in law enforcement, like a police officer, or you want to work with children, like being a teacher, your PERSONAL life has to be above reproach and be morally sound. You can't function in a leadership role like a teacher, but have your personal life be ethically questionable or compromised.
 
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