Might have fried my CPU, Help needed

[Liquid Sw0rds]

Well, three days ago, I spilled my drink on my PC. It got through one of the fan vents and landed right on the motherboard, right near the CPU. The PC was ON and RUNNING at the time the drink got on it. It shut off about 5 seconds after the drink made contact.

It looked like it was only a few drops so I took a Q-tip and started wiping the drink off. About 10-20 Minutes later after wiping the drink off, I turned the PC on. All the fans started spinning and all the LEDS came on for about 15-20 seconds, then the PC shut off.

I booted the PC again, and it did the same thing (stayed on for 15-20 seconds).
I once again turned it on a minute later, and it only stayed on for a split second.

My specs at the time (This was my first build):
AMD 3200+ Winchester (939)
Foxconn NF4UK8AA-8EKRS NF4 Ultra
1GB (512x2) Corsair Value RAM
Seagate Barracuda (160 GB,SATA)
HIS ICEQII x850 XT (PCI-E)

I replaced the motherboard with a DFI Lanparty UT NF4 ULTRA D, and also installed a new powersupply.

Once my new motherboard was installed, I booted the PC up and the same thing happened. It boots up for a split second.

Is this a sign of my CPU being dead? Would replacing it do the trick?
Also, what about my other stuff, would they be most likely dead too?
I really hope my x850 is still alright..

Thanks in advance.

 

[MielkeHBP]

Try changing the power supply as well...sounds like the problem. Whenever I have heard of someones computer turning off right after startup has been PSU problems...thats my guess, im not smart, just trying to help

 

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: MielkeHBP
Try changing the power supply as well...sounds like the problem. Whenever I have heard of someones computer turning off right after startup has been PSU problems...thats my guess, im not smart, just trying to help

He already changed it.

 

[Firsttime]

You could see if it would boot without the video card, you wouldn't get an image but there would be a "beep" noise.

 

[Liquid Sw0rds]

Originally posted by: Firsttime
You could see if it would boot without the video card, you wouldn't get an image but there would be a "beep" noise.

Hmm, Alright. I'll try that.

 

[Bozo Galora]

the water might have shorted something - so it could have blown anything

 

[Liquid Sw0rds]

Ok, I tried booting without the Video card. Same thing.

 

[mad0maxx]

Generally speaking you can start a computer with the motherboard, cpu installed, one stick of ram, one video card and keyboard!

Do not attach any optical, floppy drives or hard disk drives...

Since you already replaced your motherboard and power supply try only loading one stick of ram at a time then swapping each stick out and only leaving one stick in at any time when testing a power up. If you still does not power on for longer then one second then most likely it is your CPU...

If you had a bad GPU your computer will load just no picture on your monitor... but if your computer is automatically turning off then it's something to do with the CPU or motherboard but considering you have a new motherboard then all that leaves is the CPU...

Just what I think because you can see a BIO's screen with just the few parts listed on the top of the screen and the computer will hault when it does not detect a hard drive... but you should at least see a picture and see if the computer works or not...

 

[JimPhelpsMI]

Sorry, Misread the post! Jim

 

[tjpark1111]

i was just wondering, what case do you have? since if it's mounted like a normal case, the mobo should be on its side, so even if a drink spilled through a fan vent, how did it get to the cpu? Unless it was intentionally spilled sideways, there's no way it got all the way up to the cpu...

 

[Liquid Sw0rds]

Originally posted by: tjpark1111
i was just wondering, what case do you have? since if it's mounted like a normal case, the mobo should be on its side, so even if a drink spilled through a fan vent, how did it get to the cpu? Unless it was intentionally spilled sideways, there's no way it got all the way up to the cpu...

Here's my case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811147001

I had my PC laying on it's side at the time. The drink went through the vent on the window.

 

[SlitheryDee]

That sounds incredibly similar to when a certain genius put his athlon XP 2100+ in the same MB as his previous Duron 700mhz processor as an upgrade. The processor was not supported BIG TIME. Anyways this resulted in a fried processor and a HSF that twitched ever-so-slightly every time the power button was depressed. I'm not saying that it IS definitely the CPU, but if what you're seeing is similar to what I described then things may not look good...


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[Liquid Sw0rds]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee



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Heheh :laugh:

Anyway, I hope it's ONLY the CPU. I could manage to get that replaced. I hate to do this with AM2 on the way though.

 

[MrUniq]

I overheated my AMD 2700+ once and my system did the same thing. My mobo would power down in less than 2 seconds. Then wouldn't come on at all after awhile.

 

[Liquid Sw0rds]

Hmm, well the the thing that gets me is that the PC used to stay on for 10-15 seconds and then went down to booting for a split second. When it stayed on for 10-15 seconds, I wouldn't get a picture and my monitor doesn't show any activity and stays on the "stand by" orange LED. Now, with my new mobo, it boots for a split-second but the monitor LED turns green from the "stand-by" orange LED for a second. Could this mean my x850 is still alive?

 

[imported_Phil]

It's sounding to me like something's shorting out. Did you mount the brass standoffs between the case and the motherboard? If not, that's most likely your problem. The brass standoffs get screwed into the case itself in the appropriate places (you don't want one where there isn't a screwhole on the motherboard), and then the board gets screwed onto those standoffs.

Take the motherboard out of the case, and fire it up on something non-conductive, like a big sheet of cardboard. Make sure there aren't any staples in the cardboard.

 

[Jules]

have you tryed to take out the cpu? check it out and see if it has drink marks (assuming it was a sugar drink)

 

[Liquid Sw0rds]

Originally posted by: Phil
It's sounding to me like something's shorting out. Did you mount the brass standoffs between the case and the motherboard? If not, that's most likely your problem. The brass standoffs get screwed into the case itself in the appropriate places (you don't want one where there isn't a screwhole on the motherboard), and then the board gets screwed onto those standoffs.

Take the motherboard out of the case, and fire it up on something non-conductive, like a big sheet of cardboard. Make sure there aren't any staples in the cardboard.

I have about 4-5 brass standoffs installed. I have the remaining ones uninstalled as I misplaced them when I was installing the new mobo. I found them later on, though. Should I install the remaining ones? Also, my front panel won't function, I might have put the wires in incorrectly but I'm not sure. So I've been using the on-board On/Off Reset buttons.

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
have you tryed to take out the cpu? check it out and see if it has drink marks (assuming it was a sugar drink)

When I was switching motherboards, there was just a load of the thermal pad compound on the top of the CPU. I wiped that off and the remains on the HSF and used some Arctic Silver 5. I didn't see any drink marks on the CPU.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Originally posted by: Liquid Sw0rds

Originally posted by: Phil
It's sounding to me like something's shorting out. Did you mount the brass standoffs between the case and the motherboard? If not, that's most likely your problem. The brass standoffs get screwed into the case itself in the appropriate places (you don't want one where there isn't a screwhole on the motherboard), and then the board gets screwed onto those standoffs.

Take the motherboard out of the case, and fire it up on something non-conductive, like a big sheet of cardboard. Make sure there aren't any staples in the cardboard.

I have about 4-5 brass standoffs installed. I have the remaining ones uninstalled as I misplaced them when I was installing the new mobo. I found them later on, though. Should I install the remaining ones? Also, my front panel won't function, I might have put the wires in incorrectly but I'm not sure. So I've been using the on-board On/Off Reset buttons.

While it's obviously best to have all the standoffs that both the motherboard and case support installed, missing one shouldn't kill your system all by itself. That usually just puts strain on areas of the board that are allowed to flex instead of being anchored to the case when installing/removing cards,memory,etc. The main issue is if you have a standoff out of place so that it touches the back ot the board instead of lining up with a screw hole. Since you changed motherboards and all boards don't necessarily have holes in the same places it might be worthwhile to make sure your standoffs are all in order.

Do you know anyone with a computer that might be willing to let you test your rig with their PSU?

 

[Liquid Sw0rds]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Liquid Sw0rds

Originally posted by: Phil
It's sounding to me like something's shorting out. Did you mount the brass standoffs between the case and the motherboard? If not, that's most likely your problem. The brass standoffs get screwed into the case itself in the appropriate places (you don't want one where there isn't a screwhole on the motherboard), and then the board gets screwed onto those standoffs.

Take the motherboard out of the case, and fire it up on something non-conductive, like a big sheet of cardboard. Make sure there aren't any staples in the cardboard.

I have about 4-5 brass standoffs installed. I have the remaining ones uninstalled as I misplaced them when I was installing the new mobo. I found them later on, though. Should I install the remaining ones? Also, my front panel won't function, I might have put the wires in incorrectly but I'm not sure. So I've been using the on-board On/Off Reset buttons.

While it's obviously best to have all the standoffs that both the motherboard and case support installed, missing one shouldn't kill your system all by itself. That usually just puts strain on areas of the board that are allowed to flex instead of being anchored to the case when installing/removing cards,memory,etc. The main issue is if you have a standoff out of place so that it touches the back ot the board instead of lining up with a screw hole. Since you changed motherboards and all boards don't necessarily have holes in the same places it might be worthwhile to make sure your standoffs are all in order.

Do you know anyone with a computer that might be willing to let you test your rig with their PSU?

Hmm, I'll check if any standoffs are touching or not soon. If some standoffs ARE touching the motherboard in places besides the screw holes, would it damage my system?

 

[Jules]

Originally posted by: Liquid Sw0rds

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
have you tryed to take out the cpu? check it out and see if it has drink marks (assuming it was a sugar drink)

When I was switching motherboards, there was just a load of the thermal pad compound on the top of the CPU. I wiped that off and the remains on the HSF and used some Arctic Silver 5. I didn't see any drink marks on the CPU.

I Ment underneeth the cpu and in the socket. did it leave any residue?

 

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: Liquid Sw0rds

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Liquid Sw0rds

Originally posted by: Phil
It's sounding to me like something's shorting out. Did you mount the brass standoffs between the case and the motherboard? If not, that's most likely your problem. The brass standoffs get screwed into the case itself in the appropriate places (you don't want one where there isn't a screwhole on the motherboard), and then the board gets screwed onto those standoffs.

Take the motherboard out of the case, and fire it up on something non-conductive, like a big sheet of cardboard. Make sure there aren't any staples in the cardboard.

I have about 4-5 brass standoffs installed. I have the remaining ones uninstalled as I misplaced them when I was installing the new mobo. I found them later on, though. Should I install the remaining ones? Also, my front panel won't function, I might have put the wires in incorrectly but I'm not sure. So I've been using the on-board On/Off Reset buttons.

While it's obviously best to have all the standoffs that both the motherboard and case support installed, missing one shouldn't kill your system all by itself. That usually just puts strain on areas of the board that are allowed to flex instead of being anchored to the case when installing/removing cards,memory,etc. The main issue is if you have a standoff out of place so that it touches the back ot the board instead of lining up with a screw hole. Since you changed motherboards and all boards don't necessarily have holes in the same places it might be worthwhile to make sure your standoffs are all in order.

Do you know anyone with a computer that might be willing to let you test your rig with their PSU?

Hmm, I'll check if any standoffs are touching or not soon. If some standoffs ARE touching the motherboard in places besides the screw holes, would it damage my system?

It's unlikely it will damage it, but the symptons you have are usually a short somewhere.
Again, take the motherboard out of the case and fire it up on a piece of cardboard.

 

[Liquid Sw0rds]

Alright, I tried booting on a piece of cardboard. No go. Same deal, boots for a second. While was at it, I installed the rest of the standoffs into my case.
And also, I didn't see any signs of the drink under CPU or socket at all.

 

[Liquid Sw0rds]

Hmm, I guess I'll be buying a new 3200+ soon. This time with the venice core.

 

[imported_Phil]

Yeah, it does sound like the CPU's shot.