I'm going to keep asking this question... what is Mike Tyson going to do when Lee destroys his knee 3 seconds into the fight?
There are eyewitness reports of Bigfoot too. You are the most gullable guy on the internet if you think some 120 kung foo actor is kicking a 300 lb bag to the ceiling. ROFL.
Hey guess what! I just kicked a 400 lb. punching bag through my roof!!! ROFL.
This is the dumbest thread ever.
I'd put money on Tyson just rushing Lee, grabbing him, throwing him into a wall, then pummelling the crap out of him. The man is (was) just too damn big and powerful. No amount of fancy skills and speed from a much smaller guy could stop that.
I think it has to be Tyson by default because I can't see Bruce Lee every voluntarily agreeing to fight him absent being abducted by Shao Khan to fight Mortal Kombat style. And why would he, Tyson is bigger faster stronger and more likely to resort to any dirty trick to win. Bruce seemed like a smarter guy who would decline a fight rather than put himself at risk of being severely hurt or even killed.
One punch from prime Tyson without gloves might have killed Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee was an actor. He likely could have been a great fighter with his physique and mental capacity. We will never know though as he was an actor. Tyson was a pit bull raised in the rough streets of NY and battle hardened through many fights and training. That's like comparing a guy you knew in high school that played linebacker really good to a prime Ray Lewis.
And what does speed matter if there is absolutely no power behind it? That kick couldn't bruise a peach.
Tyson in 10 seconds.
Bruce grew up doing Martial Arts before he was ever a recognized actor.
He actually had to move from Hong Kong to the states because he was getting in fights there when he was young and someone from the Triad had put a contract on him from a fight there.
And yeah, I knew a big guy about 6' 4" I used to hang out with actually one punched and killed a guy once in the bar he managed. He had a bit of a legal battle over that one, and his father was even a local judge.
But he came out in the right at the time, even though he shouldn't have done it, it was self defense.
If you can hit someone hard enough to shove their jawbone into their brain, it's game over.
One punch from prime Tyson without gloves might have killed Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee was an actor. He likely could have been a great fighter with his physique and mental capacity. We will never know though as he was an actor. Tyson was a pit bull raised in the rough streets of NY and battle hardened through many fights and training. That's like comparing a guy you knew in high school that played linebacker really good to a prime Ray Lewis.
Pretty sure nobody can hit hard enough to "shove a jawbone into their brain". But if they were, yeah..game over.
To be honest I think Bruce would win by just tiring Mike out. I've read a lot of Bruce' literature and he was extremely aware of his own weaknesses. He would know that Mike could win by a good punch or even if Mike managed to bind him in some way. Mikes strength is enormous and his speed admirable and Bruce would be well aware of that.
I'd say his strategy would be to use his great cardio advantage to tire Mike. Mike is a bigger bloke and would start getting tired after maybe 7-10 minutes of non-stop "Fight mode" (I guess we're talking a street fight and not rounds here).
When Mikes punches start coming in a little slower Bruce would take to the knees, kidneys and maybe the throat if he felt he could take the snap.
Still, if Mike managed to grab Bruce in a way that Bruce couldn't use his elbows, head or heels to hit more sensitive parts of Mike body then I think Mike could do some serious damage and maybe it would be game over.
You are wrong.
It really doesn't matter here I guess.
Bruce Lee was a cardio addict and quite a few people thought that his intense cardio training was the reason he died so early.Tyson was the heavyweight champ. He was trained to go 12 rounds. Lee isn't going to have an advantage in cardio training. Not at all.
And your scenario assumes that while Lee is trying to tire Tyson out, he never gets hit....because if he does, that changes everything.
Pro boxers get hit for a living. MMA fighters get beaten on for a living.
Boxers are fast? George Foreman and numerous others were slow as shit. Tyson wasn't even heavy by heavyweight standards, he was only 5-10 220 in his prime and Lee was 5-8 141. 79 lbs ain't gonna give him enough of an advantage against a martial artist, especially against Lee who founded an entire martial arts philosophy that is still used today and was arguably the strongest lb for lb person in the world.True, and also remember, Tyson knocked people out with gloves on. They greatly reduce the damage done. Bare knuckles....makes me cringe to think of Tyson hitting someone that way in his prime.
Not to mention the speed increase he'd have without gloves. That's one thing people tend to forget...Tyson was QUICK, especially for a heavyweight. Sure, Lee would be a little quicker since he's a lot smaller, but IMO not decisively so.
Folks just don't realize how fast these guys are unless they've been in front of them. Boxers are FAST.
"There's no doubt in my mind that if Bruce Lee had gone into pro boxing, he could easily have ranked in the top three in the lightweight division or junior-welterweight division"...
“One of the things that made him [Lee] unique was his ability to move from kicking range to punching range to trapping range to grappling range. At that time, most martial artists really shined in one particular range. If you kicked, you didn’t punch or grapple much. If you punched, you didn’t kick or grapple much. And if you grappled, you didn’t have the same skill level in striking. Bruce was way ahead of his time in how he was training himself and his students to be adept at bridging the gap between ranges.”
‘If you and Bruce would be in a real fight to death, who would win?’, and he said without thinking: ‘Bruce of course. Nobody can beat him’. Jon Benn, in audio commentary on DVD of The Way of the Dragon.
"Lee, pound for pound, might well have been one of the strongest men in the world, and certainly one of the quickest. Whether doing one-handed, two-finger push-ups, or horizontally holding up a 125-pound barbell, Lee was impressively strong for his size, especially at only 140-145 pounds."
"I wouldn't have put a dime on anyone to beat Bruce Lee in a real confrontation. Bruce Lee was the best street fighter I ever saw, even to this very day, and not just pound for pound — but against anyone in a real fight."
“I considered him by far the greatest. And for those who don't consider him the greatest, at least he is the top candidate for being actually the greatest." -quoted in "Death by Misadventure"-
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"Bruce was incredibly strong for his size. He could take a 75lb barbell and from a standing position with the barbell held flush against his chest, he could slowly stick his arms out, lock them and hold the barbell there for 20 seconds, that's pretty damn tough for a guy who at the time only weighed 138lbs. I know 200lb weight lifters who can't do that."
“I wanted to do in boxing what Bruce Lee was able to do in the martial arts. Lee was an artist and, like him, I try to get beyond the fundamentals of my sport. I want my fights to be seen as plays”...
“In a dictionary, you say "greatest", you say "Bruce Lee", that´s the way it is. He is second to no one.”
"Bruce Lee is my Idol. I try to learn some techniques from him, especially the quickness of his hands and legs."
From Fight Times magazine: “Actually, the father of mixed martial arts, if you will, was Bruce Lee. If you look at the way Bruce Lee trained, the way he fought, and many of the things he wrote, he said the perfect style was no style. You take a little something from everything. You take the good things from every different discipline, use what works, and you throw the rest away.”
“When Bruce Lee kicked, you don't shut your eyes. Because when you shut your eyes, you cannot see Bruce Lee kick it´s so fast! Human beings cannot move like cartoon [sound effects], that´s the fastest you can be. Even Muhammad Ali or Mike Tyson, their punches are fast, but you still can see them”
"The power that Lee was capable of instantly generating was absolutely frightening to his fellow martial artists, especially his sparring partners, and his speed was equally intimidating. We timed him with an electric timer once, and Bruce's quickest movements were around five hundredths of a second, his slowest were around eight hundredths. This was punching from a relaxed position with his hands down at his sides from a distance between 18-24 inches. Not only was he amazingly quick, but he could read you too. He could pick up on small subtle things that you were getting ready to do and then he'd just shut you down".
"The biggest problem in designing equipment for Bruce was that he'd go through it so damn fast. I had to reinforce his wooden dummy with automobile parts so he could train on it without breaking it. I had started to build him a mobile dummy that could actually attack and retreat to better simulate "Live" combat, sadly Bruce died before the machine was built. It would have been strung up by big high-tension cables that I was going to connect between two posts, one on either side of his backyard. The reason for the machine was simply because no one could stand up to his full force punches and kicks, Bruce's strength and skill had evolved to point where he had to fight machines. Bruce was very interested in strength training, you could say that he was obsessed with it".
"Bruce had this trademark "One Inch Punch", he could send individuals (Some of whom outweighed him by over 100lbs) flying through the air where they'd crash to the ground 15 feet away. I remember getting knocked up against the wall by that punch. I didn't think it was possible that he could generate so much power in his punch, especially when he was just laying his hand against my chest, he just twitched a bit and Wham!!!, I went flying backward and bounced off a wall. I took him very seriously after that."
Bruce Lee is a killer, you hurt your man as much as you can and get out, without getting hurt. I have so much respect for his philosophy, it is the ultimate warrior philosophy; 'Life is like water, fighting is like water, you have to adapt.' Wow... this is deep. Bruce Lee gets me deep, when I talk about Bruce Lee.
-Mike Tyson, on Bruce Lee