Mike Tyson vs Bruce Lee

[Atomic Playboy]

Can't watch the video.

Street fight? Bruce Lee win.
Kick Mike on the knee and run.

Boxing rules? Mike likely able kill 1 Lee per round.

It's not like Mike was all that beholden to the rules when he was boxing. Remember when he bit Holyfield's ear off? You KNOW Mike would fight dirty as fuck; certainly moreso than Bruce Lee, even in a no-holds-barred street brawl. I still think Lee would take it; Mike would miss a punch, Bruce Lee would kick him in the knee and shatter it, and Mike's pretty well fucked. But Tyson in full "I'ma eat his children" rage mode would be pretty fucking frightening.

 

[amdhunter]

WTF? Both in their prime? Tyson easily.

 

[gorcorps]

Tyson. Would only take one solid punch

That he would never ever land because Bruce Lee is too damn fast. Doesn't matter if the blow is devastating if it never lands.

 

[MixMasterTang]

If a 130 pound person tried blocking a Tyson punch they would be knocked over at best and dead in the worst case.

 

[soulcougher73]

That he would never ever land because Bruce Lee is too damn fast. Doesn't matter if the blow is devastating if it never lands.

Oh i'm sure his miss rate would be like 99%. But that 1% hit is all it would take. I think he could withstand some punches and kicks from Lee with his size advantage. I dunno its silly to argue it anyways, but id pick Tyson still lol

 

[MixMasterTang]

Tyson was not slow by any stretch of the imagination either. People respected his power and he could still get them on the chin.

 

[Denly]

It's not like Mike was all that beholden to the rules when he was boxing. Remember when he bit Holyfield's ear off? You KNOW Mike would fight dirty as fuck; certainly moreso than Bruce Lee, even in a no-holds-barred street brawl. I still think Lee would take it; Mike would miss a punch, Bruce Lee would kick him in the knee and shatter it, and Mike's pretty well fucked. But Tyson in full "I'ma eat his children" rage mode would be pretty fucking frightening.

Training.

Mike wasn't trained to use or project his lower body.

Lee was trained to attack all weak spot, knee, balls, joints, throat..etc.

In a street fight, the odd of Lee kick Mike's knee is a lot higher than Mike landed a punch.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Training.

Mike wasn't trained to use or project his lower body.

Mike wasn't trained to bite a guy either, but that didn't stop him. Doesn't take much training to think "kick him in the balls and gouge his eyes out." Mike Tyson would be like a rabid wolverine. Bruce Lee is clearly a better fighter from a speed and precision standpoint, but in terms of raw power and ferocity? Bruce just better hope Tyson doesn't connect with anything.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Boxers can't beat any kind of high skilled martial artist, let alone the greatest of all time.

I question that claim.

 

[edro]

I question that claim.

Yeah, he was probably mostly hollywood hype... though he did compete quite a bit with the likes of Chuck Norris.

 

[Drako]

Not even close. Unless Lee had weapons of some sort, Tyson would kick his ass.

 

[MasterAndCommander]

Tyson...no contest.

Bruce said this of Muhammad Ali (Heavy Weight champ of his time)

""Everybody says I must fight Ali someday," Bruce said. "I'm studying every move he makes. I'm getting to know how he thinks and moves". Bruce Lee knew he could never win a fight against Ali "look at my hands", he said. "That's a little Chinese hand. he'd kill me"

 

[RPD]

Mike Tyson had serious speed
https://youtu.be/u6zlaIl0yh0?t=86

 

[Brian Stirling]

My odds would be Tyson 80% Lee 20%, but it would matter a lot where the fight took place. In a boxing ring I'd put the odds at 90% for Tyson but in an open area with room to move the odds fall to maybe 65% for Tyson.

Lee isn't going to win with his fists -- it would have to be a kick. If Tyson got in close it's game over.

We forget just what a monster Tyson was in the late 80's -- he scared the shit out of his opponents even before the fight started. And, for a big and very muscular guy he was pretty fast himself. No, not Lee fast, but pretty fast nonetheless.

Still, I'd 10X rather watch Lee than Tyson -- unless Tyson was hungry and wanted an ear.


Brian

 

[zinfamous]

Tyson -- in his prime -- was inhuman in strength and ability to withstand pain. I think you underestimate his formidability. I would be more afraid of him landing a single punch than Bruce.

I'd have to agree. Tyson was insanely fast and people seem to forget that. What Bruce has going for him, though, is that he was a fan of the fight, and this is outside of what most would consider "fair."

To Lee, you fight to win. So it wouldn't be beyond him to go straight for the nut shot if he thought that was the only way to take out Tyson. Risky, sure, because it better count. Otherwise, you have a pissed-off and very much capable Tyson with some quickly-swelling balls.

That being said, it was never beyond Tyson to get into a street fight either.

 

[MongGrel]

Yeah, he was probably mostly hollywood hype... though he did compete quite a bit with the likes of Chuck Norris.

"Bruce also instructed several World Karate Champions including Chuck Norris, Joe Lewis, and Mike Stone. Between the three of them, during their training with Bruce, they won every karate championship in the United States."

"In the same Long Beach event he also performed the "One inch punch."[36] Lee stood upright, his right foot forward with knees bent slightly, in front of a standing, stationary partner. Lee's right arm was partly extended and his right fist approximately one inch (2.5 cm) away from the partner's chest. Without retracting his right arm, Lee then forcibly delivered the punch to his partner while largely maintaining his posture, sending the partner backwards and falling into a chair said to be placed behind the partner to prevent injury, though his partner's momentum soon caused him to fall to the floor. His volunteer was Bob Baker of Stockton, California. "I told Bruce not to do this type of demonstration again", Baker recalled. "When he punched me that last time, I had to stay home from work because the pain in my chest was unbearable"."

"Lee appeared at the 1967 Long Beach International Karate Championships and performed various demonstrations, including the famous "unstoppable punch" against USKA world Karate champion Vic Moore.[35] Lee told Moore that he was going to throw a straight punch to the face, and all he had to do was to try to block it. Lee took several steps back and asked if Moore was ready. When Moore nodded in affirmation, Lee glided towards him until he was within striking range. He then threw a straight punch directly at Moore's face, and stopped before impact. In eight attempts, Moore failed to block any of the punches."

If Tyson did hit him I imagine would be in trouble, of course, but you would have to be able to even hit him,which many could not.

That and the weight difference.

Not sure what type of a fight we are speaking of anyway.

 

[Brian Stirling]

Yeah, the idea the Bruce Lee was some Hollywood concoction is laughable -- the guy was the real deal. Had he lived we might see a bunch more Asians on TV and in western movies. He was about the only Asian guy that white and black kids in the US had posters of in there bedrooms. His appeal crossed ethnic lines.

The younger Chinese don't remember or revere him, but a generation of Chinese that saw the movie we in the west called "Fists of Fury" will still remember the part in the movie where he goes to enter a park and there's a sign from the Japanese occupiers indicating that "no dogs or Chinese" are permitted in the park. In a scene that caused movie audiences in China to explode Lee jumps up and kicks the sign to pieces.

But again, in a fight with Tyson or Ali the odds would be against Lee though the odds would not be zero.

Here's the scene...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n0q0Wf7ncM


Brian

 

[dr150]

Tyson...no contest.

Bruce said this of Muhammad Ali (Heavy Weight champ of his time)

""Everybody says I must fight Ali someday," Bruce said. "I'm studying every move he makes. I'm getting to know how he thinks and moves". Bruce Lee knew he could never win a fight against Ali "look at my hands", he said. "That's a little Chinese hand. he'd kill me"

Lightning quick Jet Li also said similarly, that a distinguished big/muscular trained pro MMA fighter would destroy him in a fight, despite his superior speed & reflexes. He had no doubt about this. The hits would eventually be too overwhelming. Physics is physics.

Similarly, a Tyson hulk would devastate Lee. Tyson had both super power and speed. So much speed that he knocked out heavyweights in the first round.

No contest in a ring.

Out on the streets, it'd probably drag on for a long time and Lee's stamina could prove the deciding factor.

 

[Drako]

That being said, it was never beyond Tyson to get into a street fight either.

He'd just bite off Lee's ears and nose. :biggrin:

 

[Mandres]

People attribute all sorts of 'mystical' powers to Bruce Lee that are pretty ridiculous. Like dr150 said - physics is physics and the human body is the human body. 130 lb. Bruce Lee could not hit hulking Tyson hard enough to phase him. Fighters match up by weight for good reason ...

 

[MasterAndCommander]

Boxing vs Wrestling
Muhammad Ali vs. Antonio Inoki

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO5bJ6J5bIY

Too bad the rules of the fight made it farce...could have made MMA start sooner

 

[futurefields]

People attribute all sorts of 'mystical' powers to Bruce Lee that are pretty ridiculous. Like dr150 said - physics is physics and the human body is the human body. 130 lb. Bruce Lee could not hit hulking Tyson hard enough to phase him. Fighters match up by weight for good reason ...

you simplify things too much

is it a street fight?

i believe Lee could deliver an incapacitating groin shot as quickly as Tyson could punch his head off

i would favor Tyson but wouldn't count Lee out

the more rules you add the less of a chance Lee would have

 

[Lean L]

People are saying we're underestimating Mike's speed.

What about Bruce's strength?

https://youtu.be/Sdv_9MhOSoI?t=43

https://www.mikementzer.com/blee.html

Unbelievable Strength
Lee's feats of strength are the stuff of legend; from performing push-ups - on one hand! - or thumbs only pushups, to supporting a 125-pound barbell at arms length in front of him (with elbows locked) for several seconds, or sending individuals (who outweighed him by as much as 100 pounds in some instances) flying through the air and landing some 15 feet away as a result of a punch that Lee delivered from only one-inch away, the power that Bruce Lee could generate -- at a mere bodyweight of 135 pounds -- is absolutely frightening. Not to mention some of his other nifty little habits like thrusting his fingers through full cans of Coca-Cola and sending 300 pound heavy bags slapping against the ceiling with a simple side kick.

Seems like if Bruce is faster by even a little and surprise Mike, he could kick the wind out of Mike in a single strike to the chest.

 

[Auric]

Wow, is that the baddie from Van Damme's Bloodsport? While it's a relatively old movie, I di'int realise he was a contemporary of Lee.

Perhaps the most astounding thing about Tyson was how young he was versus his adversaries. If I recall, even at 16 he was pummelling 24 year olds.

 

[futurefields]

Yeah dude Bolo Yueng is still walking around Hollywood roided up

All of these guys would have lost in a real fight to prime Bill Kazmaier who is the most functionally strongest man who ever lived