Military coup in the US

[MrColin]

 

[Genx87]

I believe that falls under treason. And rarely do military coups end up for the "people" but instead are for the few select who con'd the idiot generals into performing their dirty work. Or it ends up being for the idiot general. Either way the "people" are usually the last or first depending on the coup to see the outcome of such a venture.

 

[piasabird]

Are you giving away free cards of Chairman Mao with this solicitation to commit insurrection against the legally elected officials running the US Govt?

Isnt this kind of illegal?

I have some kind of comments on this. First of all the people in the military tend to be more conservative and patriotic than most. They might be considered to be Anti-Liberal. If you are a conservative or maybe a strict constructionist, this might have some value to you.

As for me, the USA is built upon the RULE of LAW!

I may not agree with some judges, but I dont think we should descend into chaos.

 

[MrColin]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Are you giving away free cards of Chairman Mao with this solicitation to commit insurrection against the legally elected officials running the US Govt?

Isnt this kind of illegal?

I didn't endorse the idea, I'm just polling.

 

[Steeplerot]

100% Support in a best case scenerio, I don't see it happening nor would I trust the military itself to have the peoples best interests at heart..

But no it is not treason, we are long overdue, founding fathers knew every once in awhile someone like neocons would come along and the tree of liberty would need to
be refreshed from time to time.

Sadly enough we would probaly just get fooled again though.

Revoloution starts with the individual, and I don't see individuals taking much responsibility nowdays, so it would probaly be a bad thing until people wake up some.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Your poll contains a fallacy. "The people" have never had control of this government from the start.

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I believe that falls under treason. And rarely do military coups end up for the "people" but instead are for the few select who con'd the idiot generals into performing their dirty work. Or it ends up being for the idiot general. Either way the "people" are usually the last or first depending on the coup to see the outcome of such a venture.

True...
and no, I would not support a military coup. A citizen uprising maybe

 

[conjur]

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

:thumbsup:

 

[Taggart]

The military has sworn to protect our government. I would wager that a large majority of the military establishment supports GWB.

Nice troll post.

 

[jman19]

A military coup usually ends up in corruption, and not "power to the people."

The government has never been under the control of the people. Rather, the people only choose who will control them. I actually agree with TLC for once

 

[dirtboy]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Your poll contains a fallacy. "The people" have never had control of this government from the start.

FTW!

 

[Gibsons]

meet the new boss...

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Gibsons
meet the new boss...

... same as the old boss

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Your poll contains a fallacy. "The people" have never had control of this government from the start.

He's right on this one. Any party who would overturn the government would do so to take power for themselves. You might as well ask if I support funding of dehydrated water.

 

[Warthog912]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Your poll contains a fallacy. "The people" have never had control of this government from the start.

sad, but so true.

 

[Moonbeam]

The military essentially participated in the 2001 Supreme Court Coup by standing by and doing nothing while the legally elected President of the United States was overthrown.

 

[skygod99]

Wow, first time I have seen this..

Not surprising with this bunch..

Probably not serious, but in case you forgot, here's the lowdown..

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 > § 2385 Prev | Next

§ 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government

http://straylight.law.cornell.edu/uscod...ode18/usc_sec_18_00002385----000-.html

 

[MrColin]

Originally posted by: skygod99
Wow, first time I have seen this..

Not surprising with this bunch..

Probably not serious, but in case you forgot, here's the lowdown..

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 > § 2385 Prev | Next

§ 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government

http://straylight.law.cornell.edu/uscod...ode18/usc_sec_18_00002385----000-.html

At least its origional then. They don't need § 2385 to kick in our front doors and take us away anymore (Now with 100% less due process!)

We are not advocating anything here, just sharing opinions and discussing.

Your poll contains a fallacy. "The people" have never had control of this government from the start.

I thought about that too, I'll edit it to say "restore democracy" instead.

 

[eilute]

I think we are democratic enough that democracy could not be restored. So, I have trouble seeing such a coup as carrying any legitimacy.

 

[jjzelinski]

Absolutely not. That's the responsibility of the ovoting public to keep the fat cats and swindlers in check. If we are to ignorant and lazy to do that as a society then we deserve to reap what we sow. A military coup is not even worth discussing in a hypothetical sense as it would never happen, not in any instance.

No matter what the political slant of a military member (as mine is NOT infavor of the policy decions of the current admin), as long as the oder made is a lawful one, it's going to get done. That's the job, everyone agreed to the terms when they signed up, and though we're all entitled to an opinion, it's not our job as military members to do anything but carry out those orders (again, provided those orders are lawful in nature.) In the 4 years I've been in I've NEVER seen or heard anything that would cause me to quetion the resolve, under any circumstance, of the people that make up our military. If you knew me a little better you'd realize how siginificant a statement that was since I don't particularily care for the kind of people the military attracts to service

 

[Starbuck1975]

The military essentially participated in the 2001 Supreme Court Coup by standing by and doing nothing while the legally elected President of the United States was overthrown.

I hope this is a joke.

The military is an extention of the executive branch...they technically cannot act without lawful orders to do so by the President of the United States.

By your logic, Clinton is as much at fault for not deploying the military to intervene in the legal shenanigans that started to evolve the day after the election.

Are we going to rehash the tired "Gore really won" argument.

 

[Perknose]

Fantasy. A military coup has a much likliehood of happening as a successful "citizen uprising" -- next to nil.

People who think otherwise are as deluded as the weather underground was in the '60's and live in a melodramatic fantasyland of their own overheated contrivance.


JMHO.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: skygod99
Wow, first time I have seen this..

Not surprising with this bunch..

Probably not serious, but in case you forgot, here's the lowdown..

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 > § 2385 Prev | Next

§ 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government

http://straylight.law.cornell.edu/uscod...ode18/usc_sec_18_00002385----000-.html

I don't see anybody advocating anything...

As to the topic, I would under no circumstances support this kind of nonsense. The military is good at what it does, but let's be realistic, they aren't superior beings, and I don't think they would be too good at implementing democracy. Protecting and doing are not the same thing.

 

[imported_Condor]

Only if the troops have to serve under a Democratic administration. If it didn't happen to Clinton, it will never happen.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Condor
Only if the troops have to serve under a Democratic administration. If it didn't happen to Clinton, it will never happen.

Why would there be a coup under Clinton, things were going great when he was President

Sorry, I just can't resist baiting someone who seems to have a pretty strange fixation on Clinton.