Military thoughts

[Jon855]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: marvdmartian

Originally posted by: DarkKnight69
OP likes it in the pooper.

And there's our ignorant posting for this thread. :roll:

Don't mind him, he's just young and Canadian.

Ha I'm an American and young indeed. I'm 21. But this doesn't stops me from doing all of the research and I've dedicded that Navy > *

I've noticed some statement such as Army invading land and etd so on forth. Well to invade you beter be using at least 3 different branches of the military to pull it off cleanly. I'm just stating that Navy > * in terms of moving power. Navy has its own air force fleets, granted they are temps from the Air Force but once they boards the Navy they are to be conisdered Navy Pilots so therefore Navy > *

 

[Aimster]

In the Navy you are on a boat for 6 months away from family and loved ones

How is that exciting?

 

[svi]

Tough call. I'd say Navy for air and sea, Marines for ground, Army for ground that I deal with personally (no offense to the any ex- or current USMC on this forum, 90% of Marines just give me this "I'm going to eat your face" vibe). Chair Force... nah, I prefer FedEx.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Jon855

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: marvdmartian

Originally posted by: DarkKnight69
OP likes it in the pooper.

And there's our ignorant posting for this thread. :roll:

Don't mind him, he's just young and Canadian.

Ha I'm an American and young indeed. I'm 21. But this doesn't stops me from doing all of the research and I've dedicded that Navy > *

I've noticed some statement such as Army invading land and etd so on forth. Well to invade you beter be using at least 3 different branches of the military to pull it off cleanly. I'm just stating that Navy > * in terms of moving power. Navy has its own air force fleets, granted they are temps from the Air Force but once they boards the Navy they are to be conisdered Navy Pilots so therefore Navy > *

IIRC, Naval Aviation is completely separate from the AF.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Everyone can crawl; most can walk

Some people can swim on their own.

How many can fly?

How many can do all four?

USMC Has fixed Wing Aircraft of all sorts, and fly from both land and carriers. The Air Force flies from land only. The Army is not allowed to have anything fixed wing so depend on the AF for a lot of thier transportation. The Navy is very light in the grunt department so depend on the Marines to secure ports and land bases for them. And if the Air Force rules the air, why do Marine F-18's escort AIR FORCE ONE?

USMC > (Sum(*))

IMO, the Marines have the best of all the other branches. We get to go to all the places the Army and Air Force go to, as well as all get to go on all the Navy's wonderful cruises. And to top it off we go places none of the other branches would even consider going.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Everyone can crawl; most can walk

Some people can swim on their own.

How many can fly?

How many can do all four?

USMC Has fixed Wing Aircraft of all sorts, and fly from both land and carriers. The Air Force flies from land only. The Army is not allowed to have anything fixed wing so depend on the AF for a lot of thier transportation. The Navy is very light in the grunt department so depend on the Marines to secure ports and land bases for them. And if the Air Force rules the air, why do Marine F-18's escort AIR FORCE ONE?

USMC > (Sum(*))

IMO, the Marines have the best of all the other branches. We get to go to all the places the Army and Air Force go to, as well as all get to go on all the Navy's wonderful cruises. And to top it off we go places none of the other branches would even consider going.

Congress wanted the Marines to feel wanted.
That is why they allow them on ships. Lets the Navy do their job properly.

The Hornets escort AF1 to help share the service responsibility.
Note that it is AF pilots in control of the AC.

None of the other branches can strike anywhere in the world without leaving the US.
Advantage of tankers and missles to support the strike force.

Note that every A/C the Navy and Army and Marines fly has had at least one combat casualty.

Such are the blessings of interservice rivalry:thumbsup:

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: KillerCharlie
Air Force > All

So many people want to join the Air Force (especially through OTS) that they end up turning down tons of people.

Is this true?

When I went active through OCS, that service was accepting only about 10% of the applicants. And the washout rate was another 10-15%.

About half the candidates were prior service enlisteds

 

[atiyeh]

Originally posted by: KillerCharlie
Air Force > All

So many people want to join the Air Force (especially through OTS) that they end up turning down tons of people.

Yes they do...that's why I went enlisted then officer.

 

[JackOfHearts]

Any service with a "Rear Admiral", come on now... USAF FTW!

EDIT: "And there's our 2nd ignorant posting for this thread. "

 

[DarkKnight69]

What would OT be if we didnt have a few stupid posts...P&N.

But I am not that young...I am 20! Just tired from lack of sleep!

 

[Cooler]

:music: In the Navy :music:

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: Jon855

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: marvdmartian

Originally posted by: DarkKnight69
OP likes it in the pooper.

And there's our ignorant posting for this thread. :roll:

Don't mind him, he's just young and Canadian.

Ha I'm an American and young indeed. I'm 21. But this doesn't stops me from doing all of the research and I've dedicded that Navy > *

I've noticed some statement such as Army invading land and etd so on forth. Well to invade you beter be using at least 3 different branches of the military to pull it off cleanly. I'm just stating that Navy > * in terms of moving power. Navy has its own air force fleets, granted they are temps from the Air Force but once they boards the Navy they are to be conisdered Navy Pilots so therefore Navy > *

The navy actually has more planes than the airforce.

The airforce only recently made the ability to do deck launch and recovery a requirementr for all new planes.

the navy flew more flight ops into iraq during desert soptrm.

The navy Flew more sorties in enforcing the no fly zone.

When the airforce flew bombing runs into Iraq following the gulf war the airsupport was f-14 and f-18 deployed in the gulf.

Naval aviators are not part of the airforce.

while I believ ethat the navy is the best branch (Marines are the navy as well) You ropinion does not matter as it is clear you are clueless.

 

[TheBDB]

I'm in the Navy, so I agree!!

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Congress wanted the Marines to feel wanted.
That is why they allow them on ships. Lets the Navy do their job properly.

You realize the Marines originally were ship ONLY troops? They were designated sharp shooters in the riggings of old war ships, who would shoot down onto the decks of enemy ships. They were also the ones who did the boarding of enemy ships.

The Hornets escort AF1 to help share the service responsibility.
Note that it is AF pilots in control of the AC.

Of course they do, only the AF would waste a pilot training on that of a 747, and if theres a shared responsibility, why dont we see Air Force personnel guarding the white house? Or the Embassies?

None of the other branches can strike anywhere in the world without leaving the US.
Advantage of tankers and missles to support the strike force.

Marines also have tankers. But why would they want to do missions so remotely? All you accomplish from missions that remote is blowing something up. And we all know to really be in charge you actually have to take over a peice of land.

Note that every A/C the Navy and Army and Marines fly has had at least one combat casualty.

When you do close air support (dropping ordnace within a few hundred yards of friendlies) you tend to take a lot more hostile fire.

Such are the blessings of interservice rivalry:thumbsup:

One of those debates that will never end

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Aimster
In the Navy you are on a boat for 6 months away from family and loved ones

How is that exciting?

Working on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier is probably the most exciting thing I have done in my life. And they paid me an extra $44.00 a month hazerdous duty pay to boot!

 

[FoBoT]

Go Navy!

1986-1996 United States Navy
1988-1992 USS Florida (G) SSBN 728
Electricians Mate First Class (SS)

 

[Horus]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Everyone can crawl; most can walk

Some people can swim on their own.

How many can fly?

How many can do all four?

USMC Has fixed Wing Aircraft of all sorts, and fly from both land and carriers. The Air Force flies from land only. The Army is not allowed to have anything fixed wing so depend on the AF for a lot of thier transportation. The Navy is very light in the grunt department so depend on the Marines to secure ports and land bases for them. And if the Air Force rules the air, why do Marine F-18's escort AIR FORCE ONE?

USMC > (Sum(*))

IMO, the Marines have the best of all the other branches. We get to go to all the places the Army and Air Force go to, as well as all get to go on all the Navy's wonderful cruises. And to top it off we go places none of the other branches would even consider going.

Congress wanted the Marines to feel wanted.
That is why they allow them on ships. Lets the Navy do their job properly.

The Hornets escort AF1 to help share the service responsibility.
Note that it is AF pilots in control of the AC.

None of the other branches can strike anywhere in the world without leaving the US.
Advantage of tankers and missles to support the strike force.

Note that every A/C the Navy and Army and Marines fly has had at least one combat casualty.

Such are the blessings of interservice rivalry:thumbsup:

You'll also note that the President's helicopter is flown by marines, as well. Also called "MARINE ONE".

And perhaps no self-respecting Marine pilot wanted to fly a hog like Air Force One...the AF pilots are much better at flying pigs like that

 

[BlueFlamme]

Originally posted by: Train
Of course they do, only the AF would waste a pilot training on that of a 747, and if theres a shared responsibility, why dont we see Air Force personnel guarding the white house? Or the Embassies?

So what do you consider troop transports, cargo planes and tankers? How important are AWACS to fighter planes? While none of those are direct combat planes, they are extremely important.

And Air Force One is more than a 747, it not only carries the commander-in-chief but it provides a full command and control center.


I live next to the largest naval station in the world. The Navy does great things, they are the only efficient manner of transporting the munitions the air force uses abroad (not to mention the Army stuff).

I just like the Air Force for being on the cutting edge of technology, ie. Predator and Global Hawk. Heck, the pilots who fly the actual mission are here in the states.

 

[Zebo]

I think there is something really special about the ultimate hunt - when target can shoot back- so I'd say any special forces from any branch gets my vote for pwnage. But as a collective force everyone knows AirForce owns all. Best food, best billets, best weapons systems.. That's what I'd do, ROTC >>> AirForce officer.. Enlisted is kinda bottom feeders.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Each to their own opinions about their branch.

However, we all seem to agree, that each has its own value and deserves the support of the others.:thumbsup:

 

[BlueFlamme]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Enlisted is kinda bottom feeders.

This is my opinion speaking from the support side of the house

I've seen people with a Masters degree enlist because they wanted to do the job (cryptography for example) instead of lead the shop that does the job. With Officers it is hit or miss whether they know what the heck is going on, because your Logistics officer this year might be in charge of a Communications squadron next year. They are paid to be leaders, not because they know the field they are working.

 

[skimple]

I think you are really missing the point here. All of the armed forces are excellent - the best in the world. Instead of trying to decide which branch is better, try to figure out what you would like to do. What sort of training do you want to get? Satellites? Weapons? Management? Talk to recruiters from all branches.

Once you decide what type of job you would like to do, then you can see which branch has the best training/opportunities for you. You won't go wrong with any of them.

Good luck!

 

[Mrfrog840]

Originally posted by: Snagle
wait....whats the point of this thread?

 

[BlueFlamme]

Originally posted by: Mrfrog840

Originally posted by: Snagle
wait....whats the point of this thread?

To pad your post count.

 

[GasX]

The Navy is fine if you are a big fan of rum, sodomy and the lash...