"Million Mogadishus" Professor is hiding in fear for his life - TOO BAD..

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Looney

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Or maybe he and that professor from the Univ. of South Florida (the one who was financially supporting groups related to the 9/11 terrorists) will get together and create their own school.

Wasn't that professor arrested by the FBI not too long ago?
 

308nato

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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Or maybe he and that professor from the Univ. of South Florida (the one who was financially supporting groups related to the 9/11 terrorists) will get together and create their own school.

Wasn't that professor arrested by the FBI not too long ago?


yeah. And the professor will soon be getting his education.

Professor meet Bubba, you are now his biatch (till he trades you for a pack of smokes to cell block 9".

 

TheNinja

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
What is especially perplexing to me is why the hell anyone who clearly harbors such seething hatred for everything their country stands for would stay in that country when they are free to move to any number of other countries which they clearly would find more to their liking; Iraq, Sudan, Rawanda, North Korea, etc.

I mean, its one thing to say, "I love my country, but it has its problems, and we need to work on those problems, but I will stand by my country because I'm an American."

Its quite another to chant at an anti-US protest, "Die you fascist American imperialists! Take your fascist imperialist Constitution and all of your fascist American institutions like your criminal military of murderers, your environment-raping corporations, and population of brainwashed idiots, and die!" then hop in your SUV and drive to your posh Bay Area home made from wood and plastic products made by American corporations, jump on the internet powered by coal-burning or nuclear power plants to spew more vitriolic hatred for America across the internet, but not before checking your stock portolio of American companies.

Why don't people like De Genova and Noam Chomsky, who clearly hate everything that America stands for, GET THE F_CK OUT!

Couldn't have said it better myself. Hey Prof, reap what you sow. You spew hatred for Americans, they'll spew it right back at you.
 

jahawkin

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Aug 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: Ornery
"They don't mean jack in the big sceme of things so why give it a second thought?"

Did you just gloss over tcsenter's post, just before yours at 3:26 AM? These nut jobs are teaching impressionable kids! Our universities are overflowing with these liberal, left wing screwballs. This one just slightly more left than the rest. And to add insult to injury, the kid's parents are PAYING to have their kid brainwashed by these morons! :disgust:

That's odd, because I never once had a professor anything near like this guy. But hey, if you want to make some broad generalizations, I'll play that game:

All pro-war folk are just like this asshole who shot another guy because of his anti-war stance.
 

Alistar7

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May 13, 2002
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Originally posted by: tcsenter
De Genova claimed death threats forced him to skip his 2:40 p.m. Latino History course at the university's Hamilton Hall - the first lecture he had scheduled since the March 26 anti-war "teach in" in which he referred to the 1993 "Black Hawk Down" incident in which 18 GIs were slain.
Great, "Latino History" professor. Can you imagine what his version of history is? Just your average university academic.

I remember my first Economics professor, not a day went by in that class where she didn't make at least one disparaging remark about President Reagan or Republicans. Every discussion involving 'discredited' economic policy of course used Reagan as the example.

I was young (19) and very impressed by her. I was not just impressed, I was enchanted by all of this new knowledge I was learning, from this very educated woman who clearly knew what she was talking about, since she was a professor and had this impressive degree and stuff. She wouldn't mislead me, would she? I mean, I'm paying to get an education, not to be indoctrinated by someone's political bias, right?

DOH! Was I ever an impressionable damned fool! lol!

the question is did she take Govt money and use it to "teach" her students to think along her political lines? Then lie to congress about it? nope, that was NEWT, lol.

HIS lies (using tax payer money illegally) were not as serious as Clinton lying about a personal affair though, thats why Newt just bummed a few bucks off Dole for his fine instead of being the target of a 40 million dollar political persecution, no impeachment or removal from power....hhhmmm

I smell hypocrisy coming from Washington, oh no, say it isnt so Joe.....
 

CPA

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Nov 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Before

After

you wish the deaths of American soldiers....any questions?

BWAHAHAHAHA! I wonder if that jerk has tenure?



According to an article I read, he does not have tenure. Most likely he is gone for good from the university. Even the President of the University made a statement distancing himself from the prof.
 

friedpie

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I don't understand why people don't realize that jackasses like him aren't important. They don't mean jack in the big sceme of things so why give it a second thought?

I disagree. I think people like him are important because he is a professor at a prestigious university. He gave a speech in front of over 3,000 people. He can influence people to think like him, and that can be dangerous for those young people and society, too.



 

jahawkin

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Aug 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: friedpie
I don't understand why people don't realize that jackasses like him aren't important. They don't mean jack in the big sceme of things so why give it a second thought?

I disagree. I think people like him are important because he is a professor at a prestigious university. He gave a speech in front of over 3,000 people. He can influence people to think like him, and that can be dangerous for those young people and society, too.

But the rest of the speakers at this event said nothing near to what this guy said. So, no, I don't think he has that much influence.
He is a nice whipping boy for the right, a nice way to skew the anti-war stance.
 

dahunan

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Jan 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: jahawkin
Originally posted by: friedpie
I don't understand why people don't realize that jackasses like him aren't important. They don't mean jack in the big sceme of things so why give it a second thought?

I disagree. I think people like him are important because he is a professor at a prestigious university. He gave a speech in front of over 3,000 people. He can influence people to think like him, and that can be dangerous for those young people and society, too.

But the rest of the speakers at this event said nothing near to what this guy said. So, no, I don't think he has that much influence.
He is a nice whipping boy for the right, a nice way to skew the anti-war stance.



EVERY WORD that is heard has the ability to influence/create/change or affect peoples opinons...the position/status the speaker holds in the society makes the impact that much stronger.

EDIT to include words not heard also



EVERY WORD that is communicated to another intelligent being has the ability to influence/create/change or affect peoples opinons...the position/status the speaker holds in the society makes the impact that much stronger
 

friedpie

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But the rest of the speakers at this event said nothing near to what this guy said. So, no, I don't think he has that much influence.

From this article

"The crowd was largely silent at the remark. They loudly applauded De Genova later when he said, "If we really believe that this war is criminal ... then we have to believe in the victory of the Iraqi people and the defeat of the U.S. war machine."

 

Wheezer

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Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Only thing wrong with this is that people made threats rather acting on them first. I wouldn't shed a tear if some citizen killed him.

Be patient, it is just a matter of time.
 

Ornery

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Originally posted by: jahawkin
Originally posted by: Ornery
"They don't mean jack in the big sceme of things so why give it a second thought?"

Did you just gloss over tcsenter's post, just before yours at 3:26 AM? These nut jobs are teaching impressionable kids! Our universities are overflowing with these liberal, left wing screwballs. This one just slightly more left than the rest. And to add insult to injury, the kid's parents are PAYING to have their kid brainwashed by these morons! :disgust:

That's odd, because I never once had a professor anything near like this guy. But hey, if you want to make some broad generalizations, I'll play that game:

All pro-war folk are just like this asshole who shot another guy because of his anti-war stance.
Broad Generalizations:
  • A study performed by pollster Frank Luntz of voting patterns in the 2000 election revealed that 84% of Ivy League humanities professors voted for Gore, while only 9% threw in with Bush.

    A survey taken by Northwestern law professor James Lindgren in April 2001 revealed that 80% of professors in the top 100 law schools view themselves as Democrats, while only 13% see fit to identify themselves as Republicans.

    151 professors were surveyed by Luntz in a poll commissioned by David Horowitz's Center for the Study of Popular Culture. Eighty-four percent backed Gore for president, nine times as many as had supported Bush.

    As for party affiliation, a mere 3 percent identified themselves as Republicans compared to 57 percent who admit to being Democrats.

    Forty percent of professors polled support slavery reparations for African-Americans, a number nearly four times higher than the general public.

    Seventy-four percent of Ivy League faculty oppose a national missile-defense system, while only 26 percent of the American public feels the same way.

    By a margin of nearly 3 to 1, professors surveyed oppose school vouchers, while the public at large backs vouchers 62 percent to 36 percent...
 

networkman

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
What is especially perplexing to me is why the hell anyone who clearly harbors such seething hatred for everything their country stands for would stay in that country when they are free to move to any number of other countries which they clearly would find more to their liking; Iraq, Sudan, Rawanda, North Korea, etc.
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Why don't people like De Genova and Noam Chomsky, who clearly hate everything that America stands for, GET THE F_CK OUT!

Well said!

 

Soldat

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Oct 19, 2000
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I wouldn't mind seeing him dead and I don't care if this offends a single one of you
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Soldat
I wouldn't mind seeing him dead and I don't care if this offends a single one of you
Lighten up Francis
. The enemy is the Iragi Baath party, not some muddle minded goof that doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut.
 

arcitech2

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Some of the most influential people in my life have been teachers and seeing De Genova's comments had me steamed. But then I thought about it, he's not a TEACHER, he is a PROFESSOR! A professor is a professional student, not a Teacher. A Teacher shows you the facts, explains the reasons, and shows you how to learn. A professor uses the system to stay in school, avoids growing up, and gets off on impressing those who haven't spent as much time in school as he has. They are stuck on their own importance, and can't see past their self built egocentric world. The only thing they have to teach, is how useless our higher education system is. I am disgusted that someone like him can give a bad name to a job which is supposed to be a knoble endeavor. To Mrs. Valenchenko, Ms. Bird, Mr. Larson, and Mr. Bitts, I say thank you for being a teacher, and teaching me to think for myself.

To all the protesters (who won't read or care about this): Please open your eyes, and look past your TV or computer screen! This war will mean much more to the Iraqis, America, and the world. In my job, you don't complain about a problem, unless you are prepared to provide a solution. If you don't like it, how would you fix it? Get going, Iraq needs you!!
 

tcsenter

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That's odd, because I never once had a professor anything near like this guy. But hey, if you want to make some broad generalizations, I'll play that game:
Well you might have had a different environment at your community college or vocational school. Try a large university, especially liberal arts campuses, its obvious they are replete with Marxists and socialists. Its not even open to dispute that, overall, America's post-secondary academic community leans a bit more than slightly to the left.

Nobody said they all were just like this guy. In fact, I specifically mentioned that most of those academics who share this guy's sentiments have enough sense not to voice those views in such incendiary manners except within their like-minded personal and professional circles. So the use of this kind of incendiary anti-American rhetoric isn't a credible standard by which to judge whether or not your professor was truly 'anything near like this guy'.
the question is did she take Govt money and use it to "teach" her students to think along her political lines? Then lie to congress about it? nope, that was NEWT, lol.
The question isn't, sorry, but nice attempt to distract and divert with red herring. This has nothing whatsoever to do with the discussion.
 

althor27

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Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Well, I see the murderous Nazis are out tonight. Little Hitlers unite!



So where do you stand on the good professors comments? You went to Berkley right?
 

Bite

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Amazing -- first, the good Professor demonstrates his ill-advised bravado by calling for a "million Mogadishus," then, he goes into hiding b/c his pathetic life was threatened. Looks like the good professor doesn't have the balls to back up his bravado after all....
 
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