Millionaire withdraws $200,000, bank calls police on him

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mysticjbyrd

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I see your world view doesn't extend past your bedroom.
Yah, I am sure you wouldn't be alarmed if you walked outside and saw a gang waving guns around. I am sure that's the status quo in the suburb you live in.

Imagine if you saw a dog viciously maul someone nearly every day since you were a kid. Now what do you think your reaction would be if one day you came across a large dog that snarled at you? You are going to shit your pants. If you are armed, you very well might even just start unloading the gun.

How about a more real world example. Animals are sometimes abused by their owners. When this happens the animals become scared of people. Sometimes these animals are taken from their original owners, and given to new people. However, they never fully trust humans again. They learned to fear people.

The same thing has happened within our society. These images have warped our ability to properly judge the threat of a situation.

A prime example of this would be with the cops. Do you really think all cops are just inherently racists? Does that really make any sense in this day and age? No, they go into a situation, see a black person, and immediately there threat assessment of the situation increase by 5 points. This too is a learned behavior based on what they have seen.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Don't forget all those scary black people playing death metal, praising Satan and cumming blood. Oh wait, that's mostly white people.
 

werepossum

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Ironic, but those with the most wealth and power tend to pay the least while the inverse is also true. I'm reminded of when I worked in an Army Difac when you better believe the PvT's had to pay, but when Mr. 1 star shows up he didn't pay jack. He did have a subordinate that was supposedly supposed to stand in line and pay for his lunch on his behalf, but didn't and no one running the dining facility was going to call him out on it.

Those at the top just have a different set of rules to play by.
It continually amazes me that some very wealthy people have no shame about getting for free things for which normal people pay.

How many People Dress like a Piece of Trash while withdrawing a large sum of $$ from a Bank??
What on Earth is wrong with the way he is dressed? Looks like jeans, a tee shirt, and some sort of maroon shirt or hoodie that either he removed or the cops made him remove. In any case, it's (supposedly) a free country. As long as he can prove his identity and meets the merest standards of decency, it's his money. And his clothing. And his choice.

I can't stand gangsta rap, but it's a perfectly legal and honorable way to make a living. If some practitioners do immoral or illegal things, criticize them for that, not for the way they dress or for wishing to have their own money in their own hands. They have no obligation to behave as we wish.
 

werepossum

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If you think the Behavior depicted in that Video (Guns, Money ,Violence ) is OK--
You have Rocks in your Head.
But it's a video - same thing as a movie, or a video game. It isn't real, it's entertainment. If some choose to be motivated by it to do bad things, that's on them, just like a person who is inspired to murder an abortion clinic worker by an agitprop movie or someone who guns down strangers based on how much fun they have in Grand Theft Auto.

Some people are simply broken. Others are marginal and will be tipped over by something they see, hear or read. This is simply the price of living in a free society, and I see no wisdom in singling out gangsta rap.
 

K1052

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Not really the point though. If it's his money, then he is entitled to spend it in whatever form he wishes.

I didn't dispute that it's his choice even if it is extremely unwise and unnecessary.

Though were I on the receiving end of that in my business I would't accept the cash due to risk. The number of currency related problems (including people getting hurt, kidnapped, or even killed) we've had over the years erases any romance over taking hard cash. Wire transfer or a cashier's check is the only way to go for that large of a transaction. Really looking forward to the day when we can go totally cashless.
 

werepossum

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I didn't dispute that it's his choice even if it is extremely unwise and unnecessary.

Though were I on the receiving end of that in my business I would't accept the cash due to risk. The number of currency related problems (including people getting hurt, kidnapped, or even killed) we've had over the years erases any romance over taking hard cash. Wire transfer or a cashier's check is the only way to go for that large of a transaction. Really looking forward to the day when we can go totally cashless.
I agree that $200k in cash is not my preferred transaction either. But it IS legal currency, and it IS a $200k automobile sale - aren't too many of those. I suspect the dealer will quite happily live with the inconvenience.
 

bshole

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Yup, that shit culture is part of the problem.

I agree, it is a shit culture. My son has purchased into it 100%. Dumb fucking middle class white kid wearing pants half down, smoking dope, snorting coke, failing 4 grades, trying to rap and talking ghetto. I LOATHE THE GANGSTA CULTURE. You only get cred if you fail courses and do drugs. Anything less and you are wannabe.
 

Subyman

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If you think the Behavior depicted in that Video (Guns, Money ,Violence ) is OK--
You have Rocks in your Head.

It is an entertainment video. If you think they are crowding the streets with guns and lambos all day in the ghetto then you really, really need to meet more people.
 

Subyman

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Yah, I am sure you wouldn't be alarmed if you walked outside and saw a gang waving guns around. I am sure that's the status quo in the suburb you live in.

Imagine if you saw a dog viciously maul someone nearly every day since you were a kid. Now what do you think your reaction would be if one day you came across a large dog that snarled at you? You are going to shit your pants. If you are armed, you very well might even just start unloading the gun.

How about a more real world example. Animals are sometimes abused by their owners. When this happens the animals become scared of people. Sometimes these animals are taken from their original owners, and given to new people. However, they never fully trust humans again. They learned to fear people.

The same thing has happened within our society. These images have warped our ability to properly judge the threat of a situation.

A prime example of this would be with the cops. Do you really think all cops are just inherently racists? Does that really make any sense in this day and age? No, they go into a situation, see a black person, and immediately there threat assessment of the situation increase by 5 points. This too is a learned behavior based on what they have seen.

It isn't real. :thumbsup:
 

Ns1

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I agree, it is a shit culture. My son has purchased into it 100%. Dumb fucking middle class white kid wearing pants half down, smoking dope, snorting coke, failing 4 grades, trying to rap and talking ghetto. I LOATHE THE GANGSTA CULTURE. You only get cred if you fail courses and do drugs. Anything less and you are wannabe.

gangsta culture and a quality education are not mutually exclusive, your kid just fell in with the wrong gangstas.
 

Subyman

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gangsta culture and a quality education are not mutually exclusive, your kid just fell in with the wrong gangstas.

Exactly. Parents love to blame some external force that caused their kid to run astray be it goth, metal, D&D, drinking, gangstas, emo, etc. Kids look for identity because they do not have the experience or skills to understand who they are. That is why kids are so impressionable. They will take on whatever identity that will make them feel accepted within a group. Once you understand that it is kind of comical to watch kids try to fit in to whatever random group they end up being drawn to and to witness how they believe that group should act. This is probably why bshole's kid exactly imitates the over-the-top gangsta videos.
 

Spungo

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I agree, it is a shit culture. My son has purchased into it 100%. Dumb fucking middle class white kid wearing pants half down, smoking dope, snorting coke, failing 4 grades, trying to rap and talking ghetto. I LOATHE THE GANGSTA CULTURE. You only get cred if you fail courses and do drugs. Anything less and you are wannabe.
I was big into drug culture a few years ago, and the most hardcore drug users were math and engineering students. Engineering students also drink a lot.
Various studies seem to confirm my observations:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo.../201010/why-intelligent-people-use-more-drugs

There's no harm in identifying with a group as long as the person stays grounded in reality. It's not like every person listening to country music owns a horse. Not every person listening to rap shoots people.
 

werepossum

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I agree, it is a shit culture. My son has purchased into it 100%. Dumb fucking middle class white kid wearing pants half down, smoking dope, snorting coke, failing 4 grades, trying to rap and talking ghetto. I LOATHE THE GANGSTA CULTURE. You only get cred if you fail courses and do drugs. Anything less and you are wannabe.
Jeez, that's rough. Was he dropped on his head a lot as a baby? Did he have an idiot friend pierce his nose an inch in front of his ears?

I have a friend whose son did the exact same thing. He's on probation, lost a good job due to failing his second drug test, and will probably fail a probation drug test and go to jail before the year is out - and of course, it is everyone's fault except his. Upper middle class upbringing, wanted for nothing his whole life . . . It's like kids who don't have serious environmental problems invent them.

gangsta culture and a quality education are not mutually exclusive, your kid just fell in with the wrong gangstas.
Yeah . . . No, they pretty much are mutually exclusive. You could listen to the music/watch the videos, but embracing and living within the culture and its values requires disdaining a formal education in favor of "keeping it real" and not "acting white". (Which is doubly amusing when the kid IS white.)

I was big into drug culture a few years ago, and the most hardcore drug users were math and engineering students. Engineering students also drink a lot.
Various studies seem to confirm my observations:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo.../201010/why-intelligent-people-use-more-drugs

There's no harm in identifying with a group as long as the person stays grounded in reality. It's not like every person listening to country music owns a horse. Not every person listening to rap shoots people.
Weird, it was exactly the opposite when I was in school. The stoners/partiers majored in liberal arts, psychology, or sociology.
 

FelixDeCat

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Rap is almost exclusively low brow entertainment - what did you expect - David Bowie?

Yeah.
 
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mysticjbyrd

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I was big into drug culture a few years ago, and the most hardcore drug users were math and engineering students. Engineering students also drink a lot.
Various studies seem to confirm my observations:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo.../201010/why-intelligent-people-use-more-drugs

There's no harm in identifying with a group as long as the person stays grounded in reality. It's not like every person listening to country music owns a horse. Not every person listening to rap shoots people.

It makes sense to me. I am not sure if intelligence is the cause though. Speaking as an engineering student, the coarse load is extremely heavy, and some professors even suggest taking 5 years to complete your BS. Every single course gives you hours of homework to complete every single day, which leaves very little time to relax and unwind.

Now, on the other hand my other non-stem courses were a complete joke by comparison. People that major in these things seemingly have nothing but free time.
 

Spungo

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Weird, it was exactly the opposite when I was in school. The stoners/partiers majored in liberal arts, psychology, or sociology.

The really dumb people seem to have the worst understanding of how drugs work, what they do, what they don't do, etc. I've never heard a smart person claim MDMA puts holes in someone's brain, but I've heard really stupid people say that. Really stupid people also have weird fears about dying from marijuana poisoning, or having "spinal bleeding" from LSD.

It seems like really stupid people are controlled by fear. Those same stupid people will swear that credit cards are a bad idea. They also say buying a home is a stupid idea; they truly believe landlords are renting units out below cost. I'm not sure who told them this. Maybe the landlord did.
 
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