Milo Yiannopoulos, has officially opened up a college scholarship exclusively for young white men.

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GagHalfrunt

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Ever heard the age two wrongs don't make a right?

You can still draw attention to the problem with the scholarship I suggested - Milo certainly has access to b the press necessary to do that. The difference is my way would provide the first step toward an actual solution instead of simply a meaningless protest.

Ever heard that three rights make a left?

So what's the way to fix the original wrong? Ignore it and hope it goes away or shine a little light on it? There are scholarships open only to blacks. Everyone seems to fine with that. A scholarship only open to women is no problem. A scholarship for American Indians is wonderful. One for gender-confused wheelchair bound immigrants is A-OK. But a scholarship for straight white males is wrong? THAT'S THE PROBLEM! It's not the scholarships, it's the attitude that you can exclude one group from any scholarship and it's just peachy keen, but if you exclude a different group from a different scholarship you're the anti-christ.

If Milo had not done what he'd done and had instead wrote a letter to the editor nobody would be talking about it. The way he did things pissed off some special snowflakes who favor exclusion when it helps them and cry their self-entitled eyes out when it goes the other way. Good. Dump all scholarships that are open to any single race while excluding all others. Dump all scholarships that are open to a single religion while excluding others. Dump all scholarships that are open to any single gender identity while excluding all others. That's what Milo wants. He wants to shine a light on the scumbags who think it's okay to have a scholarship that's only for gay black women while whining about one for straight white men. Good for him, mission accomplished.
 
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cytg111

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should carve this stuff down in stone and bury the tablets somewhere... you know for the next empire to dig out in 20.000 years.. maybe they wont repeat our mistakes.
 

Maxima1

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This guy is definitely out of the closet. He's a gay hate spreader and for some reason or another, many people seem to follow him. He's just another hater in the mix of a whole lot of other haters.

Actually, Milo is right on quite a few things. There is a lot BS SJW stuff that get parroted by liberals (e.g. women paid less), even though Pew suggests that millennial women get about 2-3% less in aggregate (not even necessarily discrimination). Or that if you're white/male, you're somehow guaranteed success, even though it's so painfully obvious in real life that you can have a minority who does far better in life because of their intelligence, personality, looks. etc.

This thread also exemplifies it. Blacks aren't doing worse because police brutality or whatever ridiculous boogeyman some want to claim. Looking at it objectively, discrimination has gone far down than decades ago, yet the black-white IQ gap still persists at about ~12 IQ pts. That's huge and obviously is a big factor in determining why the low SE status persists.
 
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Actually, Milo is right on quite a few things. There is a lot BS SJW stuff that get parroted by liberals (e.g. women paid less), even though Pew suggests that millennial women get about 2-3% less in aggregate (not even necessarily discrimination). Or that if you're white/male, you're somehow guaranteed success, even though it's so painfully obvious in real life that you can have a minority who does far better in life because of their intelligence, personality, looks. etc.

This thread also exemplifies it. Blacks aren't doing worse because police brutality or whatever ridiculous boogeyman some want to claim. Looking at it objectively, discrimination has gone far down than decades ago, yet the black-white IQ gap still persists at about ~12 IQ pts. That's huge and obviously is a big factor in determining why the low SE status persists.

wow, I am sure you can back that up with some neutral links. Right? sorry, milo is nothing more than a racist. and he's just trying to make it more acceptable so he can preach his bullshit. bannon cut from the same cloth.
So you discount the systemic racism found in police depts? And the wage disparity as well
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/20/news/economy/black-white-wage-gap/
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ge-gaps-persist-in-u-s-despite-some-progress/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...-hispanics-asians-african-americans/16606121/
 

Maxima1

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So you discount the systemic racism found in police depts?

I'm not saying there isn't any, but it's ludicrous to act as if that's why blacks do bad in society.


That's explain by the white-black IQ gap. Blacks are also reluctant to get technical degrees or marketable degrees in general.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown...-represented-among-low-paying-college-majors/

You're not even reading the articles. HR policies favor minorities a lot. They like to use selection methods that do not have or have little adverse impact, even if they aren't as reliable and valid as some other selection methods i.e. cognitive ability tests

From your own link:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ge-gaps-persist-in-u-s-despite-some-progress/

"What contributes to these persistent wage gaps? Research shows that a majority of each of these gaps can be explained by differences in education, labor force experience, occupation or industry and other measurable factors."


The MSM loves to show industry averages. It doesn't show what you purport it to show. They also like to claim that studies show "blacks with certain names get way less!!!" But again, they don't delve into the cause of it.

http://www.nber.org/papers/w9938

In the 1960's, Blacks and Whites chose relatively similar first names for their children. Over a short period of time in the early 1970's, that pattern changed dramatically with most Blacks (particularly those living in racially isolated neighborhoods) adopting increasingly distinctive names, but a subset of Blacks actually moving toward more assimilating names. The patterns in the data appear most consistent with a model in which the rise of the Black Power movement influenced how Blacks perceived their identities. Among Blacks born in the last two decades, names provide a strong signal of socio-economic status, which was not previously the case. We find, however, no negative causal impact of having a distinctively Black name on life outcomes. Although that result is seemingly in conflict with previous audit studies involving resumes, we argue that the two sets of findings can be reconciled.
 
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Yay, finally a voice for the downtrodden white christian male! No longer held down by the yoke of societal stigma. And I have to add, it's about fucking time! Being a straight white male, I feared for my safety countless times walking down the street, flaunting my whiteness, getting out of 3 speeding tickets with only a warning. I bet they wouldn't have stopped me if I was black. They didn't even search my car! When will we finally get our fair share? When?

Yea, this milo twatwaffle is now basking in the bannon glow, I'm guessing pepe will be the mascot for their 'foundation'

My money is on him shutting it down within a year or so.
 

cytg111

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Actually, Milo is right on quite a few things. There is a lot BS SJW stuff that get parroted by liberals (e.g. women paid less), even though Pew suggests that millennial women get about 2-3% less in aggregate (not even necessarily discrimination). Or that if you're white/male, you're somehow guaranteed success, even though it's so painfully obvious in real life that you can have a minority who does far better in life because of their intelligence, personality, looks. etc.

This thread also exemplifies it. Blacks aren't doing worse because police brutality or whatever ridiculous boogeyman some want to claim. Looking at it objectively, discrimination has gone far down than decades ago, yet the black-white IQ gap still persists at about ~12 IQ pts. That's huge and obviously is a big factor in determining why the low SE status persists.

Cause when you grow up in a ghetto/projects a trait like doing good on an IQ test isnt going to do much for your survivability. Take that same DNA and put it in another setting and it will do just fine on the IQ.
Take a developed country, take adoptions from Africa and see how "privileged black" people do on an IQ test. Just like everyone else.
 
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Maxima1

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Cause when you grow up in a ghetto/projects a trait like doing good on an IQ test isnt going to do much for your survivability. Take that same DNA and put it in another setting and it will do just fine on the IQ.
Take a developed country, take adoptions from Africa and see how "privileged black" people do on an IQ test. Just like everyone else.

The IQ gap is across the US i.e. it doesn't matter if you're talking about Alabama or Massachusetts.
 

fskimospy

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The MSM loves to show industry averages. It doesn't show what you purport it to show. They also like to claim that studies show "blacks with certain names get way less!!!" But again, they don't delve into the cause of it.

http://www.nber.org/papers/w9938

In the 1960's, Blacks and Whites chose relatively similar first names for their children. Over a short period of time in the early 1970's, that pattern changed dramatically with most Blacks (particularly those living in racially isolated neighborhoods) adopting increasingly distinctive names, but a subset of Blacks actually moving toward more assimilating names. The patterns in the data appear most consistent with a model in which the rise of the Black Power movement influenced how Blacks perceived their identities. Among Blacks born in the last two decades, names provide a strong signal of socio-economic status, which was not previously the case. We find, however, no negative causal impact of having a distinctively Black name on life outcomes. Although that result is seemingly in conflict with previous audit studies involving resumes, we argue that the two sets of findings can be reconciled.

Even if you take that study as definitive then the conclusion is that hiring managers are discriminating against black people because their racism makes them believe people with black names are poor and unproductive instead of their racism saying something else despite that decision lacking any empirical backing.

From your own paper:

A different, but related question is why employers less frequently give interviews to applicants with distinctively Black names. One possibility is animus towards Blacks involving racial discrimination unrelated to productivity differences. An alternative interpretation is that Black names, because of self-selection among Black parents, provide useful signals of human capital to employers, even controlling for race itself and other information available on resumes. Audit study data are equally consistent with either of these hypotheses.

Saying that hiring managers are 'differently racist than you thought!' is not better.
 
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a bit more recent






My point was you cant move past something if youll never let go of the past. Sure it's a stain on american history and should never be repeated. But if you cant forgive and move forward we'll never get to a better place regarding this racial issue.
 

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My point was you cant move past something if youll never let go of the past. Sure it's a stain on american history and should never be repeated. But if you cant forgive and move forward we'll never get to a better place regarding this racial issue.

Could you absolve yourself of your humanity any further?

Sure, they were brutally oppressed, with many holdovers persisting to this day, but come on, why should anybody care? They oughta pick themselves up by their bootstraps!
 

Maxima1

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Even if you take that study as definitive then the conclusion is that hiring managers are discriminating against black people because their racism makes them believe people with black names are poor and unproductive instead of their racism saying something else despite that decision lacking any empirical backing.

From your own paper:

Saying that hiring managers are 'differently racist than you thought!' is not better.

I believe blacks end up doing worse on performance reviews once hired, so that does not indicate a bias against them (in fact, the opposite). This post doesn't refute what I said, since that would suggest just a small negative bias at most. What's ludicrous is all the people who think these double digit differences in wages between gender and race/ethnicities are because of discrimination. Not only that, but some groups that people would think do worse (Jews) due to discrimination actually do better, which undermines it even more.
 

MrSquished

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I have read conservative statements that say being a straight white christian male in this country is to be oppressed.

I think they are loony tunes.

As a straight white greek-orthodox (not practicing) male I personally feel like I am at the top of the food chain, and have been so all my life, and feel blessed for it.

Why are some people have such delusional paranoia?
 

senseamp

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This guy seems like a combination of intellectually vacuous right and intellectually vacuous youth culture.
 

MajinCry

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I have read conservative statements that say being a straight white christian male in this country is to be oppressed.

I think they are loony tunes.

As a straight white greek-orthodox (not practicing) male I personally feel like I am at the top of the food chain, and have been so all my life, and feel blessed for it.

Why are some people have such delusional paranoia?

They pine for the good old days, where you could grab a woman by the pussy and suffer no repercussions. Where you could rape gooks, sambos, and squaws, and they'd have no opportunity for justice. Where you could talk about how much you hate Jews, with nobody giving you dirty looks and a free trip to the door.

It's the ol' "BACK IN MY DAY..." syndrome.
 
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I have read conservative statements that say being a straight white christian male in this country is to be oppressed.

I think they are loony tunes.

As a straight white greek-orthodox (not practicing) male I personally feel like I am at the top of the food chain, and have been so all my life, and feel blessed for it.

Why are some people have such delusional paranoia?
because the balance is very, very slowly tipping away from that demographic, which I also happen to be a member of. But then again, I believe that an amalgam of societies is more beneficial in the long run for all cultures.
 
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My point was you cant move past something if youll never let go of the past. Sure it's a stain on american history and should never be repeated. But if you cant forgive and move forward we'll never get to a better place regarding this racial issue.

No, that wasn't your point. Your point was to complain about "white guilt".
 

fskimospy

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I believe blacks end up doing worse on performance reviews once hired, so that does not indicate a bias against them (in fact, the opposite).

What is the empirical basis for this and are the performance evaluations validated instruments?

This post doesn't refute what I said, since that would suggest just a small negative bias at most. What's ludicrous is all the people who think these double digit differences in wages between gender and race/ethnicities are because of discrimination. Not only that, but some groups that people would think do worse (Jews) due to discrimination actually do better, which undermines it even more.

Why would it suggest just a small negative bias? What is the empirical basis for that?

I get the distinct suspicion you have no clue what you're talking about and are making massive logical leaps without evidence.
 
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