Milo Yiannopoulos, has officially opened up a college scholarship exclusively for young white men.

[agent00f]

The authorities, in this case and other cases, the campus police did little to stop the violence and little to permit him to speak, thus depriving the hundreds of students the ability to hear him.
http://civilrights.findlaw.com/civil-rights-overview/civil-rights-vs-civil-liberties.html
"
Civil liberties include:

• Freedom of speech
• The right to privacy
• The right to be free from unreasonable searches of your home
• The right to a fair court trial
• The right to marry
• The right to vote"

When the authorities do nothing to protect our civil liberties, they are in essence limiting them. They don't apply to you, you're a Canadian.

If you watched many of the YouTube videos of the event many of the police weren't even present protecting students getting hurt but rather stayed huddled inside a building. Milo had to put on a bulletproof vest and was quickly escorted out by his own team for his own safety.

Mayor of Berkeley seemed more interested in expressing his opinion of Milo rather than ordering police to protect the safety of the students and the First Ammendment at UC Berkeley, ironically known as the home of the free speech movement.

Shouldn't a university receiving federal funds, the mayor of a city and the police defend those that are being prevented from exercising their First Amendment rights regardless of their opinion of them?

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cernovich/status/827249600247377920

Point and laugh at the dumbshits who for the life of them will never figure out what the 1st amendment means, or anything else for that matter.

 

[agent00f]

MonGrel, I saw that. ; ) Pretty amusing considering I voted Obummer TWICE.

https://www.jbhe.com/2015/09/a-large-racial-gap-persists-in-act-test-scores/

"The average composite score for Black test takers on the ACT was 17.1. (The ACT is graded on a scale of 1 to 36.) The average score for Blacks was lower than for any other racial or ethnic group including American Indians, Hispanics, and Pacific Islanders. The average composite score for Whites in 2015 was 22.4.


On the optional writing test of the ACT, the average score for Blacks was 15.9, compared to an average White score of 21.8. Thus, the racial scoring gap on the writing ACT test is greater than on the standard ACT.


The racial gap in ACT scores has remained relatively constant for many years, with only slight fluctuations."

Because it isn't the united negro college fund and anything besides a black mind is okay to waste. The hypocrisy is ringing loud and clear as the snowflakes attempt to emerge from their safe rooms.

What a coincidence that various minority performance generally correlates with level of historical subjugation. Seems ye ol' whitey knew exactly how much to subjugate each group according to their respective innate inadequacy, and their modern counterparts are just as good at these judgements.

 

[blankslate]

It's great Milo recognizes the needs of the truly oppressed in America.


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[baydude]

ACLU lawyer Lee Rowland on Milo Yiannopoulos: "It’s easy to protect speech we agree with, but more important to protect speech we abhor."

https://mobile.twitter.com/ACLU/status/830131431506485248

 

[gplracer]

Many minorities do not want equal rights for all. They do not want scholarships based on merit. They want their group to get special privledges. I paid for my college and graduate degrees. I work long hours to provide for my family. I am borrowing money to send my son to college. He is a good student and graduated with honors. I find it frustrating that minority students who did not work as hard and have grades as good as him are getting a portion of their college paid for only because they are a minority.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Many minorities do not want equal rights for all. They do not want scholarships based on merit. They want their group to get special privledges. I paid for my college and graduate degrees. I work long hours to provide for my family. I am borrowing money to send my son to college. He is a good student and graduated with honors. I find it frustrating that minority students who did not work as hard and have grades as good as him are getting a portion of their college paid for only because they are a monority.

can you back up those first three assertions with facts?
many minorities do not want equal rights for all - needs citation
they do not want scholarships based on merit - needs citation (and I can safely guess, all students of all races/religions/etc would like this)
They want their group to get special privileges - needs citation

or am I whining here too tajjy?

 

[MajinCry]

can you back up those first three assertions with facts?
many minorities do not want equal rights for all - needs citation
they do not want scholarships based on merit - needs citation (and I can safely guess, all students of all races/religions/etc would like this)
They want their group to get special privileges - needs citation

or am I whining here too tajjy?

why would you need facts it's not like hes talking about the 1700s

 

[OutHouse]

can you back up those first three assertions with facts?
many minorities do not want equal rights for all - needs citation
they do not want scholarships based on merit - needs citation (and I can safely guess, all students of all races/religions/etc would like this)
They want their group to get special privileges - needs citation

or am I whining here too tajjy?

The fact you defend free stuff based upon race, we'll every race but white is citation enough.

 

[jackstar7]

ACLU lawyer Lee Rowland on Milo Yiannopoulos: "It’s easy to protect speech we agree with, but more important to protect speech we abhor."

This is correct. Now apply it to a speaker whose words you abhor and see if you are still willing to stand on that principle. Or if you just cheer it on when it's supporting your "team".

 

[Ancalagon44]

This is correct. Now apply it to a speaker whose words you abhor and see if you are still willing to stand on that principle. Or if you just cheer it on when it's supporting your "team".

I don't see conservatives protesting to shut Obama, Hilary Clinton or anyone else liberal up.

To clarify - conservatives do protest, but when they do, they do it without nearly as much property damage as liberals. And, typically the person they protesting still does his or her talk, because let's face it, a conservative protest is not anywhere near as dangerous as something like the protest against Milo Y.

 

[HomerJS]

can you back up those first three assertions with facts?
many minorities do not want equal rights for all - needs citation
they do not want scholarships based on merit - needs citation (and I can safely guess, all students of all races/religions/etc would like this)
They want their group to get special privileges - needs citation

or am I whining here too tajjy?

Of course he can't. Minorities don't work as hard as he does. Textbook racism.

He probably doesn't realize white males who make up about 30% of the population control over 90% of the wealth. I guess that's because white males work harder and are smarter then us dumb lazy minorities.

Shiftless darkies get all the breaks in this country. Sounds like sentiment that won the election

 

[mikeymikec]

To clarify - conservatives do protest, but when they do, they do it without nearly as much property damage as liberals.

If a level playing field was ever to occur that results in conservatives are as genuinely desperate as other protesters that you're complaining about, then maybe you might have a reasonable basis for comparison.

Hint: A conservative by definition is trying to conserve something they appreciate and already have (or very recently had and enjoyed for generations).

 

[Ancalagon44]

If a level playing field was ever to occur that results in conservatives are as genuinely desperate as other protesters that you're complaining about, then maybe you might have a reasonable basis for comparison.

Hint: A conservative by definition is trying to conserve something they appreciate and already have (or very recently had and enjoyed for generations).

First, what does that have to do with the protest against Milo?

Second, do you have some stats proving that liberal protesters are in general worse off than conservative protesters? Keep in mind that most liberal protesters live in urban areas where incomes are generally higher. Also, a lot of liberal protesters are in fact not minorities.

Third, even if they are worse off, is that acceptable? Is destruction of property an acceptable means of protest in a democracy?

I guarantee that you would be singing a very different tune if this was a protest against a liberal speaker such as Hilary Clinton. Because you don't support Milo, you are quite happy about this. Which shows you do not support free speech.

 

[mikeymikec]

First, what does that have to do with the protest against Milo?

As much as your point that I quoted.

Second, do you have some stats proving that liberal protesters are in general worse off than conservative protesters?

I didn't say "liberal protesters". For starters, many (probably most) protests are about personal liberties/rights. Does that mean that all who go to such protests are liberals? How about second amendment-supporting protesters, are they conservative or liberal? The two things aren't mutually exclusive.

Third, even if they are worse off, is that acceptable? Is destruction of property an acceptable means of protest in a democracy?

What you're doing here is like comparing someone with a freshly broken leg and expecting them to express pain as much as someone with an owie on their finger.

As expected, you also completely ignored my point with regard to desperation. If say some people are getting unjustly treated by the police and they are truly afraid for their lives / well-being in such an event (ie. a personal encounter with the police), I expect them to be angrier than a group who are worried that say they're going to have to pay a bit more taxes that go towards the less fortunate. It's pure idiocy to expect that the end result of each group protesting will be the same.

Let's assume for a second that you're male. Tell me: Would you (and people like you, in your opinion) exhibit the same amount of anger if the government implemented a tax increase (but not significant enough to affect your ability to pay for a little more than what you consider to be essential in your life), compared to if the government started rounding up all males to be chemically castrated because of their perceived risk to women?

I guarantee that you would be singing a very different tune if this was a protest against a liberal speaker such as Hilary Clinton.

What would people be protesting if Hilary Clinton was speaking? People don't just decide, "I have nothing to do today, I think I should go and protest some random topic". Context is everything.

For example, if Christians or Muslims started assaulting police en masse without provocation because they're not allowed to foist their views on literally everyone in the country they're in, I would consider their violence to be an extreme and unjust reaction to their circumstances. However, if either group were violently protesting because they're about to get rounded up and put into camps for no good reason, then chances are I'd join them on the picket line.

Because you don't support Milo, you are quite happy about this. Which shows you do not support free speech.

Your point I responded to had nothing to do with Milo. You were talking about liberals versus conservatives.

 

[BoomerD]

This is just plain, fucking discrimination. I mean...why does it have to be white YOUNG men? Why can't it be white OLD men?

Hell, there are a LOT of men in my generation who would have liked to have the opportunity to go to college...but didn't have that option. We HAD to go to work...to support the family, didn't have the grades for scholarships, no rich families to pay the way, etc.

Discrimination I say...

 

[gplracer]

Of course he can't. Minorities don't work as hard as he does. Textbook racism.

He probably doesn't realize white males who make up about 30% of the population control over 90% of the wealth. I guess that's because white males work harder and are smarter then us dumb lazy minorities.

Shiftless darkies get all the breaks in this country. Sounds like sentiment that won the election

Part of my comments are based on where my son goes to school, the University of Georgia. Entrance and scholarships at UGA are based on ethnicity first and merit second. They want the same demographic make up at the school as there is in the state of Georgia.

I hear what you are saying about whites having the majority of higher playing jobs. I guess you are saying because of that fact minorities should get more help. This viewpoint is precisesly what I was talking about in my earlier post. I comment on how it is not fair to my son and you bring up a reason why minorities should get special treatment not equal treatment. I also never said minorities are lazy. I just know there are minorities at UGA who did not perform as well in school as my son but they are afforded more financial help based on their grades which are not as good as the grades my son made. I find that frustrating.

 

[agent00f]

Part of my comments are based on where my son goes to school, the University of Georgia. Entrance and scholarships at UGA are based on ethnicity first and merit second. They want the same demographic make up at the school as there is in the state of Georgia.

I hear what you are saying about whites having the majority of higher playing jobs. I guess you are saying because of that fact minorities should get more help. This viewpoint is precisesly what I was talking about in my earlier post. I comment on how it is not fair to my son and you bring up a reason why minorities should get special treatment not equal treatment. I also never said minorities are lazy. I just know there are minorities at UGA who did not perform as well in school as my son but they are afforded more financial help based on their grades which are not as good as the grades my son made. I find that frustrating.

In brief, affirmative action is basically reparations on the cheap. Western post-enlightenment justice tries to making victims whole again.

Speaking of equality, I suspect you & friends probably aren't willing to take a position at the bottom of the conservative social status totem in exchange for some half-assed special treatment.

 

[Crumpet]

I love all this idea of "there isn't a person alive today who was a slave"..

Yes, let's just forget all the Jim Crow laws and the fact that lynchings were still being reported in the media into the late 1960's, and you hear reports of it still happening in some Southern states.

Let's just forget that Martin Luther King Jr was assassinated in 1968 preaching for the same causes that were raised by Frederick Douglass in 1841.

Let's just forget that 1 in 3 black men statistically will spend jail time in their lifetimes, often for crimes they never committed.

There may be only very few cases of slavery in the modern world, but for the blacks, the Mexicans, the Native Americans and other ethnic minorities in America, there is such a thing as still being a slave to society.

- Written by a privileged young white male who would happily burn this school down.

 

[gplracer]

So... since there was so much racism in the past there should be special privledges for minority people today. Like The United States Tennis Association (USTA) which offer grants where you have to have a certain ethnicity like this https://s3.amazonaws.com/ustaassets/assets/1/15/asian_american_final1.pdf

I am sorry but as a person who grew up being told to treat everyone equally I expect the same in return. My family immigrated from another country 200 years ago. We were not slave owners and no one in my family that I am aware of ever protested against equal rights. We supported equal rights. We did not assasinate anyone. My son's room mate in college is black. He is a great kid and a good friend from high school. I guess you are saying since some other white people did terrible things that I am racist for expecting my some to be treated equal to everyone else. It is a double standard. I get it that minorities have been treated terrible in the past. At what point in the future will it be alright to have school opportunities and all other opportunities based on merit alone. Nothing has been given to me and it seems that more is being given to others. I am a frustrated parent who will be in dept most of my life trying to provide the best for my kids.

 

[Crumpet]

A privileged young white male can go to basically any school in the country.

The same cannot be said for other ethnicities, that's why they need to have special schools and sometimes special privileges.

If you feel like your government is giving unfair benefits to individuals is the problem not then that your government is failing to provide you everything you require, and instead you are laying the blame on those who have what you do not?

 

[agent00f]

So... since there was so much racism in the past there should be special privledges for minority people today. Like The United States Tennis Association (USTA) which offer grants where you have to have a certain ethnicity like this https://s3.amazonaws.com/ustaassets/assets/1/15/asian_american_final1.pdf

I am sorry but as a person who grew up being told to treat everyone equally I expect the same in return. My family immigrated from another country 200 years ago. We were not slave owners and no one in my family that I am aware of ever protested against equal rights. We supported equal rights. We did not assasinate anyone. My son's room mate in college is black. He is a great kid and a good friend from high school. I guess you are saying since some other white people did terrible things that I am racist for expecting my some to be treated equal to everyone else. It is a double standard. I get it that minorities have been treated terrible in the past. At what point in the future will it be alright to have school opportunities and all other opportunities based on merit alone. Nothing has been given to me and it seems that more is being given to others. I am a frustrated parent who will be in dept most of my life trying to provide the best for my kids.

If I beat the shit out of you and left your family destitute, would the cessation of beatings be an acceptable justice? Of course an ideal justice would be for me to somehow make the situation whole, but if not me then a responsibly society does instead.

Similarly in this case, ideally the old racists would pay, but since we regrettably couldn't punish them or their state (too rich too white), the rest of us do. Seems in this case the most culpable parties are skilled at deflecting the blame from themselves onto the victims. Would you agree they're about the worst people ever, like if I in the hypothetical above blamed you for screwing over said responsible society?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I have a son who is white. He isn't gay, he isn't Jewish, he isn't black or female. We aren't rich or powerful and these items prevent put him at a real disadvantage. Link to scholarship application?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

A privileged young white male can go to basically any school in the country.

The same cannot be said for other ethnicities, that's why they need to have special schools and sometimes special privileges.

If you feel like your government is giving unfair benefits to individuals is the problem not then that your government is failing to provide you everything you require, and instead you are laying the blame on those who have what you do not?

If you mean rich then yeah. Otherwise no.

 

[agent00f]

I have a son who is white. He isn't gay, he isn't Jewish, he isn't black or female. We aren't rich or powerful and these items prevent put him at a real disadvantage. Link to scholarship application?

Would he/you trade being really mexican/muslim in Trump's america for a few extra SAT points?

 

[gplracer]

I did not blame anyone... Read through my previous posts. I never said I disliked minorities or blamed them for this situation. I only said I am frustrated with my situation and experiences.

And no I am not rich. I work ong hours and do stuff on the side to help provide for my kids. I have two college degrees and a Masters degree. I paid for those myself.