Minn. Rep. Kerry Gauthier caught with zipper down... literally

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WHAMPOM

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cybrsage

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Minnesota isn't generally known for being a bastion of sexual freedom.

In general this country is WAY to uptight about sex. Even entirely legal consensual sex.

The public sex charge is pretty marginal at best, up there with jaywalking or public intox. However it's an election year so he'll get thrown to the dogs.

He has withdrawn from the race for re-election. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ek-re-election-wake-scandal-article-1.1142381

This is more than can be said for any number of people on both sides of the aisle who've had their own sex scandals, including David Vitter and Bob Barr, among others.

Yeah, he has to make sure his voters will still want to vote for him, and doing this is a fast way to make sure they will not vote for him. It is the negative that comes with getting the money and power of being in office.
 
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Yeah, he has to make sure his voters will still want to vote for him, and doing this is a fast way to make sure they will not vote for him. It is the negative that comes with getting the money and power of being in office.

State legislators in Minnesota make a whopping $31K per year (an associate in my firm is a state legislator, and has taken a huge loss in income to do so - he spends 2/3 or more of the year working on legislative matters, so we have moved him from being salaried to being an independent contractor for the hours he works), and they have the "power" of, well, being state legislators in Minnesota. Losing out on a state legislative seat is hardly a huge loss of power or income (in fact, as to the latter, it's most likely an upgrade).

As someone else posted, this hardly seems like news outside of Minnesota. Even here it's a minor story.
 

Thump553

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Yeah, he has to make sure his voters will still want to vote for him, and doing this is a fast way to make sure they will not vote for him. It is the negative that comes with getting the money and power of being in office.

Negative much? Damned if does and damned if he doesn"t (quit the race) in your book, apparently.

And unless he is one of the leaders of the dominant party, the usual state legislator would derive more money and power with a part time job at 7-11.
 

cybrsage

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State legislators in Minnesota make a whopping $31K per year (an associate in my firm is a state legislator, and has taken a huge loss in income to do so - he spends 2/3 or more of the year working on legislative matters, so we have moved him from being salaried to being an independent contractor for the hours he works), and they have the "power" of, well, being state legislators in Minnesota. Losing out on a state legislative seat is hardly a huge loss of power or income (in fact, as to the latter, it's most likely an upgrade).

As someone else posted, this hardly seems like news outside of Minnesota. Even here it's a minor story.

You honestly believe state legislators do not have power. Really? You also think the direct job income is their only source of money due to being a legislator? If that was the case, Obama would not have such a huge income...
 

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Negative much? Damned if does and damned if he doesn"t (quit the race) in your book, apparently.

Just going by what the dems in his own state say...they feel the voters in his districts will not vote for him after this event. He agrees, which is why he is not running for reelection.

He knew this ahead of time (how could he not), so the damning is self imposted.

And unless he is one of the leaders of the dominant party, the usual state legislator would derive more money and power with a part time job at 7-11.

You are even sillier than Vito.
 
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You honestly believe state legislators do not have power. Really? You also think the direct job income is their only source of money due to being a legislator? If that was the case, Obama would not have such a huge income...

I just said that is not their only source of income - they have whatever they can make for income during the period of the year that they are not working in the legislature, which for most of them isn't much. The ethics rules here are incredibly strict - legislators can't even accept meals from lobbyists - so if you're implying they can directly profit from their service in the legislature, you're mistaken. We are very straight-laced in Minnesota in that regard, and there really is no meaningful history of our legislators being involved in corruption scandals.

President Obama, unlike most state legislators, had significant revenue from his first book (which was published in 1995), and I believe his wife was also making a handsome living as an attorney during the same interval. Since that time all three of his books have become bestsellers, and he has earned additional income through his Nobel Prize. I also imagine (though I don't know for certain) that the IL state legislature probably paid more than $31K/year when Obama was a state senator.

Very few state legislators here (including Gauthier, who is single and has never authored a book) have these advantages. Gauthier is a social worker and presumably makes social worker-type income when he is not working in the legislature (i.e., very little).
 
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Hugo Drax

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No way, another republican had is dick in some strangers ass in some random restroom stall. NO WAY!!

Did he have a bible in his back pocket?
 

BoberFett

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As someone else posted, this hardly seems like news outside of Minnesota. Even here it's a minor story.

Unless this person had been a Republican, in which case Phokus would have started a thread titled:

"LOLZ REPUBLICAN GAYS ARE THE PROBLEM" in a 48pt font.
 

jackstar7

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Unless this person had been a Republican, in which case Phokus would have started a thread titled:

"LOLZ REPUBLICAN GAYS ARE THE PROBLEM" in a 48pt font.

But why would he do that, do you think?

Or do you blame that behavior on hackery only?
 

werepossum

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There are lots of things that are legal that are usually the kiss of death for a political career. I would say this is one of those situations. But as he is a state legislator and not in my state (much less my district) this has about as much significance to me as last night's Met's score.
This. Although I'm surprised it's a Dem; I thought the Pubbies had cornered the market on supposedly straight men having sex with young boys.
 

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This. Although I'm surprised it's a Dem; I thought the Pubbies had cornered the market on supposedly straight men having sex with young boys.

Actually, you are confusing "Pubbies" with "Catholic Priests," although I suppose the two are not mutually exclusive.
 

werepossum

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Actually, you are confusing "Pubbies" with "Catholic Priests," although I suppose the two are not mutually exclusive.
Well - it's sometimes hard to tell the difference in an airport bathroom stall, is all I'm saying. Though 17 might be pushing it for priests.
 

BoberFett

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But why would he do that, do you think?

Or do you blame that behavior on hackery only?

Since hypocrisy seems to be a job requirement for becoming a politician, yes I see hackery as the primary driver behind double standards.
 

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Its only bipartisan when a democrat is involved.

Not so much when a republican gets busted.

Democrats don't usually hide the fact that they're gay. Most of them have sex in their own bedrooms, instead of public restrooms and parks.
 

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Unless this person had been a Republican, in which case Phokus would have started a thread titled: "LOLZ REPUBLICAN GAYS ARE THE PROBLEM" in a 48pt font.

Maybe it's because to the hypocrisy that is present in the last major Republican example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig_scandal

This guy also voted in a way that was unfavorable for the gay/lesbian community

http://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/Larry_Craig_Civil_Rights.htm

If he hadn't be a proponent of bills that could be seen as discriminatory toward gays and lesbians and an opponent of bills that might have helped them then there would be no hypocrisy and thus no reason for outrage in Larry Craigs case.
 

RightIsWrong

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Well - it's sometimes hard to tell the difference in an airport bathroom stall, is all I'm saying. Though 17 might be pushing it for priests.

You're probably right....17 is way too old for them.

On a related note, this guy, whether doing this "act" legally or not, should be reviled by the public and I wish that he would have run for re-election so that this could would be blasted in ad after ad to hopefully make him realize that, just because something is technically legal, there should still be some common sense and realization that the kid isn't mature enough to truly be getting involved with someone so much freaking older.
 
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