Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
It will be availabe as soon as it's finished uploading from the Kinkos in Abilene.
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Rebels say they have the stuff.
explosives
Say they used U.S. intel.
"We promise God and the Iraqi people that we will use it against the occupation forces and those who cooperate with them in the event of these forces threatening any Iraqi city,''
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
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Originally posted by: TranceNation
just heard it this morning..
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
It will be availabe as soon as it's finished uploading from the Kinkos in Abilene.
5 EYEWITNESS NEWS crew in Iraq shortly after the fall of Saddam Hussein was in the area where tons of explosives disappeared, and may have videotaped some of those weapons.
The missing explosives are now an issue in the presidential debate. Democratic candidate John Kerry is accusing President Bush of not securing the site they allegedly disappeared from. President Bush says no one knows if the ammunition was taken before or after the fall of Baghdad on April 9, 2003 when coalition troops moved in to the area.
Using GPS technology and talking with members of the 101st Airborne Division, 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS has determined the crew embedded with the troops may have been on the southern edge of the Al Qaqaa installation, where the ammunition disappeared. The news crew was based just south of Al Qaqaa, and drove two or three miles north of there with soldiers on April 18, 2003.
During that trip, members of the 101st Airborne Division showed the 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS news crew bunker after bunker of material labelled "explosives." Usually it took just the snap of a bolt cutter to get into the bunkers and see the material identified by the 101st as detonation cords.
"We can stick it in those and make some good bombs." a soldier told our crew.
There were what appeared to be fuses for bombs. They also found bags of material men from the 101st couldn't identify, but box after box was clearly marked "explosive."
In one bunker, there were boxes marked with the name "Al Qaqaa", the munitions plant where tons of explosives allegedly went missing.
Once the doors to the bunkers were opened, they weren't secured. They were left open when the 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS crew and the military went back to their base.
"We weren't quite sure what were looking at, but we saw so much of it and it didn't appear that this was being secured in any way," said photojournalist Joe Caffrey. "It was several miles away from where military people were staying in their tents".
Officers with the 101st Airborne told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS that the bunkers were within the U.S. military perimeter and protected. But Caffrey and former 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS Reporter Dean Staley, who spent three months together in Iraq, said Iraqis were coming and going freely.
"At one point there was a group of Iraqis driving around in a pick-up truck,"Staley said. "Three or four guys we kept an eye on, worried they might come near us."
On Wednesday, 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS e-mailed still images of the footage taken at the site to experts in Washington to see if the items captured on tape are the same kind of high explosives that went missing in Al Qaqaa. Those experts could not make that determination.
The footage is now in the hands of security experts to see if it is indeed the explosives in question.
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
What I would not expect is that it would be left open and unsecured
so everyone could have free samples and take some souviners.
I also would not expect that a military unit would open storage bunkers
by using boltcutters, see tons of ordinace inside them and walk away
without securing the access that they had gained by breaking the locks.
al-Qa Qaa
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: TranceNation
just heard it this morning..
Everyone seems to be having a problem spelling "explosives" this morning:
Replying to Topic: Minnesota news station has footage of missing 380 tons explotives
From Front Page of Yahoo this morning:
Russia denies involvement in Iraq expolsives
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
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That wasn't funny the first four times you said it. Not a clever guy are you?
As I wouldn't expect the humorless to laugh, it obviously wasn't intended for you. Apparently others found it funny though, even in its reuse. Comics often recycle material. Look at that comic Dave constantly recyling the word "neocon." Haven't heard you bitch about him doing that ad naseum.Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
It will be availabe as soon as it's finished uploading from the Kinkos in Abilene.
That wasn't funny the first four times you said it. Not a clever guy are you?
Wow! DonVito is searching through my comedic material.Originally posted by: DonVito
I was just thinking that. Nobody likes a comic who recycles his material so many times in such close proximity. A quick search does in fact reveal that this is the first time TLC has reused this lame line 4 times in the last 3 weeks.
Well, as the soldiers and their commanders have said, it wasn't their mission to secure it. They found no chemical/biological WMDs so it was on to the next phantom WMD site.Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Well really . . .
What would you expect to find at a Weapons Manufacturing Facility.
I would expect to find:
1) Weapons
2) Ordinance
3) Explosives
4) Protective Gear
What I would not expect is that it would be left open and unsecured
so everyone could have free samples and take some souviners.
I also would not expect that a military unit would open storage bunkers
by using boltcutters, see tons of ordinace inside them and walk away
without securing the access that they had gained by breaking the locks.
al-Qa Qaa
Class 1: Explosive Substances and Articles
Division numbers give information on how the explosives can be transported. Explosives typical for demining can be put into one of the following divisions:
Division 1.1: Substances and articles that have a mass explosion hazard (a mass explosion is an explosion that affects almost the entire load instantaneously).
Division 1.4: Substances and articles that present only a slight risk of explosion in the event of ignition or initiation during carriage. The effects are largely confined to the package and no projection of fragments of appreciable size or range is to be expected. An external fire shall not cause an instantaneous explosion of the entire contents of the package.
Compatibility Groups
Compatibility groups inform you about how to stuff a container and how it can be transported as well. Definitions of compatibility groups of substances and articles for demining are listed in the table below.
Compatibility
Group Definition of Compatibility Group
B Article containing a primary explosive substance and not having two or more effective protective features. Some articles, such as detonators for blasting, detonator assemblies for blasting and cap-type primers, are included, even though they do not contain primary explosives.
D Secondary detonating explosive substance or black powder or article containing a secondary detonating explosive substance. In each case, without means of initiation and without a propelling charge, or and article containing a primary explosive substance and having two or more effective protective features.
S Substance or article so packed or designed that any hazardous effects arising from accidental functioning are confined within the package unless the package has been degraded by fire, in which case all blast or projection effects are limited to the extent that they do not significantly hinder or prevent fire-fighting or other emergency response efforts in the immediate vicinity of the package.
Table 1: Classification of compatibility groups.
Originally posted by: conjur
EXCLUSIVE:
5 EYEWITNESS NEWS video may be linked to missing explosives in Iraq
http://www.kstp.com/article/stories/S3723.html?cat=1
5 EYEWITNESS NEWS crew in Iraq shortly after the fall of Saddam Hussein was in the area where tons of explosives disappeared, and may have videotaped some of those weapons.
The missing explosives are now an issue in the presidential debate. Democratic candidate John Kerry is accusing President Bush of not securing the site they allegedly disappeared from. President Bush says no one knows if the ammunition was taken before or after the fall of Baghdad on April 9, 2003 when coalition troops moved in to the area.
Using GPS technology and talking with members of the 101st Airborne Division, 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS has determined the crew embedded with the troops may have been on the southern edge of the Al Qaqaa installation, where the ammunition disappeared. The news crew was based just south of Al Qaqaa, and drove two or three miles north of there with soldiers on April 18, 2003.
During that trip, members of the 101st Airborne Division showed the 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS news crew bunker after bunker of material labelled "explosives." Usually it took just the snap of a bolt cutter to get into the bunkers and see the material identified by the 101st as detonation cords.
"We can stick it in those and make some good bombs." a soldier told our crew.
There were what appeared to be fuses for bombs. They also found bags of material men from the 101st couldn't identify, but box after box was clearly marked "explosive."
In one bunker, there were boxes marked with the name "Al Qaqaa", the munitions plant where tons of explosives allegedly went missing.
Once the doors to the bunkers were opened, they weren't secured. They were left open when the 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS crew and the military went back to their base.
"We weren't quite sure what were looking at, but we saw so much of it and it didn't appear that this was being secured in any way," said photojournalist Joe Caffrey. "It was several miles away from where military people were staying in their tents".
Officers with the 101st Airborne told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS that the bunkers were within the U.S. military perimeter and protected. But Caffrey and former 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS Reporter Dean Staley, who spent three months together in Iraq, said Iraqis were coming and going freely.
"At one point there was a group of Iraqis driving around in a pick-up truck,"Staley said. "Three or four guys we kept an eye on, worried they might come near us."
On Wednesday, 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS e-mailed still images of the footage taken at the site to experts in Washington to see if the items captured on tape are the same kind of high explosives that went missing in Al Qaqaa. Those experts could not make that determination.
The footage is now in the hands of security experts to see if it is indeed the explosives in question.
Video
http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer...page.php?Art_ID=159660