Minnesota Supreme Court paves way for Democrat Al Franken to take Senate seat

[Patranus]

It is now 100% the Democrats show. No longer can the Democrats place blame on Bush or Republicans. You have The House, you have The Senate. It is ALL you guys now.

 

[senseamp]

Originally posted by: Patranus
It is now 100% the Democrats show. No longer can the Democrats place blame on Bush or Republicans. You have The House, you have The Senate. It is ALL you guys now.

No. The damage Bush and GOP did to this country is still on you.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: spittledip
If he is as bad a politician as he was comedian and comic writer, MN is in for a world of hurt.

Even if he is, he's a big step up from Norm Coleman.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Patranus
It is now 100% the Democrats show. No longer can the Democrats place blame on Bush or Republicans. You have The House, you have The Senate. It is ALL you guys now.

This post would have been so much better if you could figure out a way to capitalize '100%'.

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Patranus
It is now 100% the Democrats show. No longer can the Democrats place blame on Bush or Republicans. You have The House, you have The Senate. It is ALL you guys now.

No. The damage Bush and GOP did to this country is still on you.

So thats how it works.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
And the supermajority is here.

The one thing Bush was able to do, get the country back on track away from the terrible Republican party.

 

[UberNeuman]

Congrats, Al!

\and I happily await down the road: President Al Franken.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Patranus
It is now 100% the Democrats show. No longer can the Democrats place blame on Bush or Republicans. You have The House, you have The Senate. It is ALL you guys now.

No. The damage Bush and GOP did to this country is still on you.

So thats how it works.

The politicians and the people who voted for them have responsibility for their policies whenever the effects happen, in office or after?

I guess if Bush had invaded Russia Jan 19, 2009, he'd have nothing to do with the war on Jan 20 when Obama took over.

 

[senseamp]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Patranus
It is now 100% the Democrats show. No longer can the Democrats place blame on Bush or Republicans. You have The House, you have The Senate. It is ALL you guys now.

No. The damage Bush and GOP did to this country is still on you.

So thats how it works.

Oh, you thought that once Dems get supermajority, GOP gets absolution for the damage it did before that? Dems are responsible for effects of policies they pass from now on. GOP is still responsible for effects of policies they passed when they had a majority.

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Patranus
It is now 100% the Democrats show. No longer can the Democrats place blame on Bush or Republicans. You have The House, you have The Senate. It is ALL you guys now.

No. The damage Bush and GOP did to this country is still on you.

So thats how it works.

Oh, you thought that once Dems get supermajority, GOP gets absolution for the damage it did before that? Dems are responsible for effects of policies they pass from now on. GOP is still responsible for effects of policies they passed when they had a majority.

And what policies did the GOP pass that they are responsible for? The war in Iraq? Nope, majority of the Democrats voted for that. Collapse of investment banks? Nope that was Clinton/Repeal of Glass Steagall. Maybe Housing? Nope that was the good old Jimmy Carter/Community Reinvestment Act.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
It'll be interesting to see how the Dems ram their super-majority down the GOP's throat in the Senate.

With extreme prejudice I hope

 

[senseamp]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Patranus
It is now 100% the Democrats show. No longer can the Democrats place blame on Bush or Republicans. You have The House, you have The Senate. It is ALL you guys now.

No. The damage Bush and GOP did to this country is still on you.

So thats how it works.

Oh, you thought that once Dems get supermajority, GOP gets absolution for the damage it did before that? Dems are responsible for effects of policies they pass from now on. GOP is still responsible for effects of policies they passed when they had a majority.

And what policies did the GOP pass that they are responsible for? The war in Iraq? Nope, majority of the Democrats voted for that. Collapse of investment banks? Nope that was Clinton/Repeal of Glass Steagall. Maybe Housing? Nope that was the good old Jimmy Carter/Community Reinvestment Act.

If GOP wants to run in 2010 and 2012 on the platform that they aren't responsible for anything and did nothing wrong, and it's all the Democrats fault, I can only encourage that.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Chalk up a victory for voter fraud. More votes counted in towns than there were people registered? Yup, we've officially arrived at third world rathole status. The people of MN deserve what they get (not that Coleman was any real prize either).

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Patranus
It is now 100% the Democrats show. No longer can the Democrats place blame on Bush or Republicans. You have The House, you have The Senate. It is ALL you guys now.

No. The damage Bush and GOP did to this country is still on you.

So thats how it works.

Oh, you thought that once Dems get supermajority, GOP gets absolution for the damage it did before that? Dems are responsible for effects of policies they pass from now on. GOP is still responsible for effects of policies they passed when they had a majority.

And what policies did the GOP pass that they are responsible for? The war in Iraq? Nope, majority of the Democrats voted for that. Collapse of investment banks? Nope that was Clinton/Repeal of Glass Steagall. Maybe Housing? Nope that was the good old Jimmy Carter/Community Reinvestment Act.

So you think the policy of invading Iraq that was proposed by a Republican president that 96% of House Republicans supported and 98% of Senate Republicans supported is somehow not their fault because between the two houses an average of 48% of Democrats supported it? In what world is this accurate?

The CRA being responsible for the housing crisis has been debunked, stomped on, trashed, and laughed at probably dozens of times on here by this point. It's a complete right wing myth. If you're interested in it, use the search function. (yeah I know it sucks, but for something that has been gone over this many times even it will work)

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: FerrelGeek

Chalk up a victory for voter fraud. More votes counted in towns than there were people registered? Yup, we've officially arrived at third world rathole status. The people of MN deserve what they get (not that Coleman was any real prize either).

That was the election in Iran. This was a 5 - 0 decision by the Minnesota Supreme Court. You're either confused or full of sh8... or both. :roll:

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Harvey
:thumbsup:

Originally posted by: MotF Bane

A court decides an election again, where's the outrage?

No, VOTERS decided the election. Coleman and the Republican party shot their load trying to overturn it.

The court decides which votes count and which votes do not count. They decided a close election.

 

[Bitek]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Patranus
It is now 100% the Democrats show. No longer can the Democrats place blame on Bush or Republicans. You have The House, you have The Senate. It is ALL you guys now.

No. The damage Bush and GOP did to this country is still on you.

So thats how it works.

Oh, you thought that once Dems get supermajority, GOP gets absolution for the damage it did before that? Dems are responsible for effects of policies they pass from now on. GOP is still responsible for effects of policies they passed when they had a majority.

And what policies did the GOP pass that they are responsible for? The war in Iraq? Nope, majority of the Democrats voted for that. Collapse of investment banks? Nope that was Clinton/Repeal of Glass Steagall. Maybe Housing? Nope that was the good old Jimmy Carter/Community Reinvestment Act.

"We did nothing wrong! It was all Clinton and Carter's fault!"

Carter? Really? The Carter who left office 29 years ago and has been surpassed by 20 years of R presidency and some 15 years of R control of Congress?

So they had all this time to fix it, didn't, but we should vote them back in?

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Harvey
:thumbsup:

Originally posted by: MotF Bane

A court decides an election again, where's the outrage?

No, VOTERS decided the election. Coleman and the Republican party shot their load trying to overturn it.

The court decides which votes count and which votes do not count. They decided a close election.

True. The court is the decider of fact. Experience shows it's a better way to resolve such disputes than a shoot out at 30 paces.

In this case, the court determined the fact that the majority of valid ballots were cast for Franken.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
I'm happy that Al Franken ended up winning, but it was hardly a victory. If the election said anything, it was that Minnesotans weren't particularly happy with either candidate, with 15% of the voters getting behind the independent candidate Dean Barkley instead of supporting the two-party system (I was one of them).

And so you tend to exaggerate the importance of your 'third party army'.

It's hardly unprecedented. Ask the constituents of Lieberman - or Bill Clinton in 1992.

Or you could always ask George Bush, who lost the popular vote in 2000, how 'real' that victory was - also given his getting the vote in Florida by mistakes and theft.

Mistakes in handling the ballots - Yes
Theft - only as seen by the sour grapes loser of the battle.

The courts spoke on what had to be done in both FL and MN

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Patranus
It is now 100% the Democrats show. No longer can the Democrats place blame on Bush or Republicans. You have The House, you have The Senate. It is ALL you guys now.

No. The damage Bush and GOP did to this country is still on you.

So thats how it works.

Oh, you thought that once Dems get supermajority, GOP gets absolution for the damage it did before that? Dems are responsible for effects of policies they pass from now on. GOP is still responsible for effects of policies they passed when they had a majority.

And what policies did the GOP pass that they are responsible for? The war in Iraq? Nope, majority of the Democrats voted for that. Collapse of investment banks? Nope that was Clinton/Repeal of Glass Steagall. Maybe Housing? Nope that was the good old Jimmy Carter/Community Reinvestment Act.

Can you fucking hear yourself?

You said, no joke...

"No longer can the Democrats place blame on Bush or Republicans."

And then a few minutes later you blame Clinton and Carter for everything.

Are you serious?

P.S. It would be just as retarded if you were to blame Reagan and the Bushes for absolutely everything. Certainly Clinton and Carter and congressional Democrats did do some things that hurt our country as well. But they're not wholly responsible and neither are Reagan and the Bushes.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
And the supermajority is here.

The one thing Bush was able to do, get the country back on track away from the terrible Republican party.

Now if only we can get the party away from the terrible Democrat party too, we'll be in business.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
And the supermajority is here.

The one thing Bush was able to do, get the country back on track away from the terrible Republican party.

Now if only we can get the party away from the terrible Democrat party too, we'll be in business.

That started happening in the 2006 and 2008 elections. Where ya'bin??

 

[duragezic]

Meh, Democrat or Republican, I do not like it one bit to have one party in such huge control of the House, Senate, and Presidency. Don't see how that is a good thing.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: duragezic
Meh, Democrat or Republican, I do not like it one bit to have one party in such huge control of the House, Senate, and Presidency. Don't see how that is a good thing.

If it was the repuggies, I'd forecast a dark future. But it's democrits. Getting them together in lockstep is like herding cats.

 

[microbial]

Originally posted by: FerrelGeek
Chalk up a victory for voter fraud. More votes counted in towns than there were people registered? Yup, we've officially arrived at third world rathole status. The people of MN deserve what they get (not that Coleman was any real prize either).

That 3rd-world-voter-fraud status was earned by the US in 2000.