Miss Alabama Calls Dallas Shooter a Martyr

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woolfe9998

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Sure I have a problem with her comments. They are reprehensible and reflect a delusional understanding of the world she lives in.

My problem with all things like this is that it is one person's opinion. There are about 35 million black people in this country. With the internet these days, potentially every last one of them has a platform. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear more comments like these from this person or that. And no, the fact she is a "former Miss Alabama" hardly adds any weight to her remarks.
 

Perknose

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How many of you actually listened to the entire video? She's torn up and really upset that a part of her is feeling the way she does.

Please listen to this.

She says, "I know it's not right and I definitely don't condone violence."

She's torn up at her own lack of empathy, saying, "I don't feel sad that those officers lost their lives AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT RIGHT."

She says, "I WANT TO FEEL SAD FOR THEM but I can't help but feel like the shooter is a martyr AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO FEEL BECAUSE NOBODY DESERVES TO DIE AND THOSE POLICE OFFICERS HAD FAMILIES AND PEOPLE WHO LOVED THEM AND THAT THEY DIDN'T DESERVE TO DIE."

It's easy to make a cartoon villain out of this woman's anguish at the coldness in her own heart that she's trying to confront. So, go on, get down in the tit for tat political mosh pit and help make this ugly and tragic situation worse, like she has inadvertently done, like this asshole OP has deliberately done.

Just don't be proud of yourself when you do.
 

sactoking

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Stupid people say stupid things, news at 11.

Also-

It is ok to be racist/misogynist/bigoted/whatever so long as you feel bad about it.
 

BeeBoop

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How many of you actually listened to the entire video? She's torn up and really upset that a part of her is feeling the way she does.

Please listen to this.

She says, "I know it's not right and I definitely don't condone violence."

She's torn up at her own lack of empathy, saying, "I don't feel sad that those officers lost their lives AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT RIGHT."

She says, "I WANT TO FEEL SAD FOR THEM but I can't help but feel like the shooter is a martyr AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO FEEL BECAUSE NOBODY DESERVES TO DIE AND THOSE POLICE OFFICERS HAD FAMILIES AND PEOPLE WHO LOVED THEM AND THAT THEY DIDN'T DESERVE TO DIE."

It's easy to make a cartoon villain out of this woman's anguish at the coldness in her own heart that she's trying to confront. So, go on, get down in the tit for tat political mosh pit and help make this ugly and tragic situation worse, like she has inadvertently done, like this asshole OP has deliberately done.

Just don't be proud of yourself when you do.

You left out the part in which she says that she feels the shooter is a Martyr....
 

Artdeco

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she can't tell the difference between police that were fathers and brothers and sons and fellow human beings and officers in a different goddamn state that are likely guilty of murder?

She feels a murderer of 5 human beings, and someone that shot an innocent mother is a martyr?

Dunno what the fuck kind of church she just got out of, but it seems to encourage Old Testament BS instead of the New Testament.

She should be ashamed, and honestly, it seems like she needs some therapy.
 

BeeBoop

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O sorry, I just scanned your post.


I don't change my opinion of Miss Alabama.
 

werepossum

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How many of you actually listened to the entire video? She's torn up and really upset that a part of her is feeling the way she does.

Please listen to this.

She says, "I know it's not right and I definitely don't condone violence."

She's torn up at her own lack of empathy, saying, "I don't feel sad that those officers lost their lives AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT RIGHT."

She says, "I WANT TO FEEL SAD FOR THEM but I can't help but feel like the shooter is a martyr AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO FEEL BECAUSE NOBODY DESERVES TO DIE AND THOSE POLICE OFFICERS HAD FAMILIES AND PEOPLE WHO LOVED THEM AND THAT THEY DIDN'T DESERVE TO DIE."

It's easy to make a cartoon villain out of this woman's anguish at the coldness in her own heart that she's trying to confront. So, go on, get down in the tit for tat political mosh pit and help make this ugly and tragic situation worse, like she has inadvertently done, like this asshole OP has deliberately done.

Just don't be proud of yourself when you do.
Wait - something is taken out of context on the Internet? I'm gonna need a minute to put on my shocked face . . .

I'm glad she realizes that her feelings are wrong, but they ARE her feelings, and she felt comfortable sharing them.
 

woolfe9998

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How many of you actually listened to the entire video? She's torn up and really upset that a part of her is feeling the way she does.

Please listen to this.

She says, "I know it's not right and I definitely don't condone violence."

She's torn up at her own lack of empathy, saying, "I don't feel sad that those officers lost their lives AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT RIGHT."

She says, "I WANT TO FEEL SAD FOR THEM but I can't help but feel like the shooter is a martyr AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO FEEL BECAUSE NOBODY DESERVES TO DIE AND THOSE POLICE OFFICERS HAD FAMILIES AND PEOPLE WHO LOVED THEM AND THAT THEY DIDN'T DESERVE TO DIE."

It's easy to make a cartoon villain out of this woman's anguish at the coldness in her own heart that she's trying to confront. So, go on, get down in the tit for tat political mosh pit and help make this ugly and tragic situation worse, like she has inadvertently done, like this asshole OP has deliberately done.

Just don't be proud of yourself when you do.

I'm glad she feels conflicted and knows that violence is wrong. But her perception of reality is way off. There aren't any more black people being shot by cops these days than any other time period. There's just more cases being reported by the media. Furthermore, the number of black people shot by cops every year is like 300 out of 35 million. You're just about as likely to be killed by Muslim terrorists. In other words, not very likely. I think there's some racial bias in the system, but I also think many black people have an inflated sense of the scale of the problem. This disconnect between perception and reality is a serious issue.
 
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werepossum

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Brilliant!

I'm glad she feels conflicted and knows that violence is wrong. But her perception of reality is way off. There aren't any more black people being shot by cops these days than any other time period. There's just more cases being reported by the media. Furthermore, the number of black people shot by cops every year is like 300 out of 35 million. You're just about as likely to be killed by Muslim terrorists. In other words, not very likely. I think there's some racial bias in the system, but I also think many black people have an inflated sense of the scale of the problem. This disconnect between perception and reality is a serious issue.
This inflated sense of the scale of the problem is not an accident. Our mainstream media has a vested interest in pushing that agenda.

That said, while the Harvard study shows that blacks have a very slightly lower chance of being shot by police while unarmed and not attacking, that is per interaction. Blacks have a LOT more interactions with police than do whites. Granted, some of that is rate of committing crime, but some of it is also societal factors. With roughly the same chance of being shot per encounter and a lot more encounters, black males in particular still have a lot higher chance of being shot over time. The issue does not deserve the extremely slanted coverage it gets, but I think you would agree it IS an issue. Who knows how many Fergusons we have in our nation?
 

spacejamz

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How many of you actually listened to the entire video? She's torn up and really upset that a part of her is feeling the way she does.

Please listen to this.

She says, "I know it's not right and I definitely don't condone violence."

She's torn up at her own lack of empathy, saying, "I don't feel sad that those officers lost their lives AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT RIGHT."

She says, "I WANT TO FEEL SAD FOR THEM but I can't help but feel like the shooter is a martyr AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO FEEL BECAUSE NOBODY DESERVES TO DIE AND THOSE POLICE OFFICERS HAD FAMILIES AND PEOPLE WHO LOVED THEM AND THAT THEY DIDN'T DESERVE TO DIE."

It's easy to make a cartoon villain out of this woman's anguish at the coldness in her own heart that she's trying to confront. So, go on, get down in the tit for tat political mosh pit and help make this ugly and tragic situation worse, like she has inadvertently done, like this asshole OP has deliberately done.

Just don't be proud of yourself when you do.

Now do the same thing and look at the whole situation with that picture of the woman being arrested who wouldn't leave after being asked multiple times by the cops after being allowed to protest for several hours, especially since she is endangering herself on that busy stretch of road.

Or it is easier to think that the big bad mean police are picking on an innocent little flower?
 

gdansk

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I really can't say much. But no one should support the punishment of people for crimes they personally did not commit. Americans, of all people, should be terribly frightened by the concept of collective guilt.
 
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HomerJS

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How many of you actually listened to the entire video? She's torn up and really upset that a part of her is feeling the way she does.

Please listen to this.

She says, "I know it's not right and I definitely don't condone violence."

She's torn up at her own lack of empathy, saying, "I don't feel sad that those officers lost their lives AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT RIGHT."

She says, "I WANT TO FEEL SAD FOR THEM but I can't help but feel like the shooter is a martyr AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO FEEL BECAUSE NOBODY DESERVES TO DIE AND THOSE POLICE OFFICERS HAD FAMILIES AND PEOPLE WHO LOVED THEM AND THAT THEY DIDN'T DESERVE TO DIE."

It's easy to make a cartoon villain out of this woman's anguish at the coldness in her own heart that she's trying to confront. So, go on, get down in the tit for tat political mosh pit and help make this ugly and tragic situation worse, like she has inadvertently done, like this asshole OP has deliberately done.

Just don't be proud of yourself when you do.

People don't really listen they are just quick to label her.

I remember the day Regan was shot. I didn't feel bad for him because of his attitudes towards black people. There may have been a twinge of "he had it coming". That's how I felt back then, just didn't broadcast it. I don't think it made me racist but it was an honest feeling at the time.

I'm sure there were a lot of black people who didn't shed a tear when George Wallace was shot. Doesn't mean they wanted him killed.
 

Ackmed

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You're comparing a single person who you feel was wrong towards you, to people who did nothing wrong. Judging all police by the acts of a few. Yet turned around it'd be wrong. The fact is she's making it worse by lying and fanning the flames. That's a fact.

I listened to her, it was a very incentive, and untruthful thing to say. Trying to justify it is pathetic. You apparently agree with her as you haven't said you don't. Very classy.
 

disappoint

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I wonder if she knows why she is not as emotionally affected by blacks killing blacks in far greater numbers than the few white cops killing black people incidents that recently occurred.

I'll bet she doesn't. Now I wonder if any of you do.
 

rudder

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I wonder if she knows why she is not as emotionally affected by blacks killing blacks in far greater numbers than the few white cops killing black people incidents that recently occurred.

I'll bet she doesn't. Now I wonder if any of you do.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/3-Fatally-Shot-Liquor-Store-San-Bernardino-386127101.html

A huge black lives matter rally is planned for San Bernadino in response to this 9 year old getting gunned down during a gang hit. Oh wait... nevermind. No one in BLM cares as this does not fit their agenda.
 

HomerJS

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I wonder if she knows why she is not as emotionally affected by blacks killing blacks in far greater numbers than the few white cops killing black people incidents that recently occurred.

I'll bet she doesn't. Now I wonder if any of you do.

I don't know how she feels about the former.

I'm surprised you can't discern the difference in being the victim of random crime vs the victim of law enforcement representing the state. Its eerily similar to the slave/slave owner relationship which has ramifications far beyond the loss of a life.
 

spacejamz

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People don't really listen they are just quick to label her.

I remember the day Regan was shot. I didn't feel bad for him because of his attitudes towards black people. There may have been a twinge of "he had it coming". That's how I felt back then, just didn't broadcast it. I don't think it made me racist but it was an honest feeling at the time.

I'm sure there were a lot of black people who didn't shed a tear when George Wallace was shot. Doesn't mean they wanted him killed.

But it is okay to label the woman being arrested by the police for protesting based on the a single image as an innocent snowflake instead of understanding the entire context of the situation (where she was asked multiple times to leave after she had been protesting for several hours)?
 

werepossum

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I really can't say much. But no one should support the punishment of people for crimes they personally did not commit. Americans, of all people, should be terribly frightened by the concept of collective guilt.
Very well said.
 
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Now do the same thing and look at the whole situation with that picture of the woman being arrested who wouldn't leave after being asked multiple times by the cops after being allowed to protest for several hours, especially since she is endangering herself on that busy stretch of road.

Or it is easier to think that the big bad mean police are picking on an innocent little flower?

Endangering herself on that busy stretch of road? There was no traffic. There was no danger. The police are lined across the entire road. Nothing was getting through there.
 

spacejamz

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Endangering herself on that busy stretch of road? There was no traffic. There was no danger. The police are lined across the entire road. Nothing was getting through there.

so you are choosing 'she is an innocent little flower' route even though she was warned multiple times before getting arrested and the protesters had shut down the road for a few hours already....got it....
 
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