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SammyJr

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This is one of the reasons I oppose any sort of damage cap with regards to tort reform.

A Fulton County, Ga., State Court jury on Friday awarded a 4-year-old boy and his mother $2.3 million in damages from an injury the boy suffered during a circumcision when he was an infant.

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202429531287

A Northwestern Memorial Hospital obstetrician is being sued for allegedly botching a circumcision of a 1-day-old baby and cutting off a portion of the infant?s penis.

http://www.wbbm780.com/pages/4...pe=4&contentId=3833024

Most likely, the doctors downplayed any risks, exaggerated any possible benefits, and then turned these kids into a permanent virgins. I don't think $250k or whatever cap is a high enough penalty for that kind of willful negligence. Until there is sufficient regulation to ensure honesty and transparency for patients and the general public, I don't think we can have any serious tort reform.
 

EXman

Lifer
Jul 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: BarrySotero
Trail lawyers were Obama's #1 donation bundlers. Obama was never serious about addressing actual causes of health costs. He doesn't even care about sick people. Obamcare is about getting control over huge portion of economy and the people both working in it and being served by it. It's about getting the gov in peoples lives and making them dependent on gov. All kinds of control is available once the gov has your health care in their hands. What a mess.

do you sleep at night? If I thought all of this I would have handguns and board up my windows.

Have you been to a gun store lately?

There is no Ammo!

There is plenty of lumber hanging around maybe you should build a toy wood gun we wouldn't want you to get hurt.
 

Paddington

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Jun 26, 2006
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Originally posted by: SammyJr
This is one of the reasons I oppose any sort of damage cap with regards to tort reform.

A Fulton County, Ga., State Court jury on Friday awarded a 4-year-old boy and his mother $2.3 million in damages from an injury the boy suffered during a circumcision when he was an infant.

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202429531287

A Northwestern Memorial Hospital obstetrician is being sued for allegedly botching a circumcision of a 1-day-old baby and cutting off a portion of the infant?s penis.

http://www.wbbm780.com/pages/4...pe=4&contentId=3833024

Most likely, the doctors downplayed any risks, exaggerated any possible benefits, and then turned these kids into a permanent virgins. I don't think $250k or whatever cap is a high enough penalty for that kind of willful negligence. Until there is sufficient regulation to ensure honesty and transparency for patients and the general public, I don't think we can have any serious tort reform.

While we're on the topic of circumcision, routine circumcision is just an all around bad, bad, bad idea. Just leave it alone people.

Any doctor that recommends this procedure for your otherwise healthy child is an idiot with outdated medical knowledge, that goes against what Pediatricians now recommend.

That said though, the $2.3 million or whatever isn't going to change anything for this kid, while it will just raise healthcare costs for society as a whole (due to insurance payoffs, higher billing, and so forth). These lawsuits also won't eliminate the risk from these procedures 100%. Everything can go right, but bad outcomes still happen in medicine due to inherent risks. :beer:
 

Fern

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Sep 30, 2003
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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: duragezic
So what parts of medicine make it cost so ridiculously much? If physician's salaries and medical malpractice (two things I hear mentioned as costing so much) are only a few % of the cost each, where is it from?
A huge amount of your health insurance premium is going to "overhead" meaning advertising, executive perks, profit, claims processing, etc.
I can't remember where I saw it but if all the health insurnance companies had the overhead of the top 20 percent on average premiums would drop 15 percent overnight.
Yes, you heard that right, 15 percent.
That's HUGE

Overhead for health insurance can't be a big deal if all health insurance amounts to only a few %.

So, yeah I'd like know where all the d@mn cost is coming from too. What is it? all those $50 aspirin pills?

Things aren't adding up here.

BTW: I heard 5% of people are responsible for 50% of our medical costs. If so, this lends itself to a much different solution than UHC (UMC/UHI).

Fern
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: duragezic
So what parts of medicine make it cost so ridiculously much? If physician's salaries and medical malpractice (two things I hear mentioned as costing so much) are only a few % of the cost each, where is it from?
A huge amount of your health insurance premium is going to "overhead" meaning advertising, executive perks, profit, claims processing, etc.
I can't remember where I saw it but if all the health insurnance companies had the overhead of the top 20 percent on average premiums would drop 15 percent overnight.
Yes, you heard that right, 15 percent.
That's HUGE

Overhead for health insurance can't be a big deal if all health insurance amounts to only a few %.

So, yeah I'd like know where all the d@mn cost is coming from too. What is it? all those $50 aspirin pills?

Things aren't adding up here.

BTW: I heard 5% of people are responsible for 50% of our medical costs. If so, this lends itself to a much different solution than UHC (UMC/UHI).

Fern

Unitedhealth Group, Inc. one of the largest healthcare cos in the US.

Revenues: $81.2 billion
CEO Salary: $3.12m, stock option $6.23m = 0.01% of revenues
Net Income: $2.977 billion = 3.7% profit margin
 
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