Missing the NHL?

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Lifer
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I miss hockey. But the only way hockey fixes itself is by getting rid of the lying sack of shit Gary Bettman.

You think Bettman is responsible for the lockout? It's the owners and the players who have a huge financial stake in the outcome of the CBA, not Gary Bettman. Gary Bettman just represents the owners in negotiations. If you think Bettman is the problem, then it's really the owners who are the problem.
 

AMDZen

Lifer
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From a blog called "Nightmare on 'Helm' Street"

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What a joke. Why go to so much trouble naming a blog after such a mediocre player
 

EMPshockwave82

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me to.

I try to go to a local team called the "ice hogs". tickets are $20 for good seats and my kids have a blast.

hockey is so much better in person then on tv. but i do enjoy watching on tv.

Rockford Icehogs are the Chicago Blackhawks. Look at their roster and think about how many of those names are sounding familiar......
 

n7

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So much.

I just don't post about it much.

But with the Oilers arena debacle and the NHL lockout, it's been a rough fall so far.
 

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Lifer
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I don't really follow the NHL until later in the season anyway, for when it actually counts. I can't be bothered to watch like the first few months... The games just don't count for much.

So no, as of right now, I am not missing the NHL.
 

rh71

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Rockford Icehogs are the Chicago Blackhawks. Look at their roster and think about how many of those names are sounding familiar......

It's just subpar hockey - that's why it's subpar prices. They are more fun for families though and that's a good thing too. But not the same hockey if you care about the competitiveness of it all.
 

ScoobMaster

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Missing it here too.

We can go see the hometown Binghamton Senators play now and it is only an hour or so to drive down to see the Wilks-Barre/Scranton Penguins.

I am getting a lot of Hockey "live" with my son's pee wee practices on weekends now though
 

AMDZen

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Luckily we still have a lot of hockey around here. Going to a couple Cutthroat games as well as DU games in the coming month

Denver Cutthroats
Colorado Eagles
Denver Pioneers
 

Fingolfin269

Lifer
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Luckily we still have a lot of hockey around here. Going to a couple Cutthroat games as well as DU games in the coming month

Denver Cutthroats
Colorado Eagles
Denver Pioneers

I'm so jealous that you have all of that near you.

We do have a game on Saturday though, Knoxville Ice Bears vs. Huntsville Havoc. Should be a great time.
 

EMPshockwave82

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It's just subpar hockey - that's why it's subpar prices. They are more fun for families though and that's a good thing too. But not the same hockey if you care about the competitiveness of it all.

It's definitely subpar hockey but it's fun.

Worth it if you are really missing the sport.
 

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Lifer
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I actually have some hope for a resolution soon. If the owners have actually agreed to cover the cost of the Make Whole arrangement, then they're essentially in agreement on the salary issue. That's obviously the biggest impediment to an agreement, followed by revenue sharing. The NHL met the PA in the middle on revenue sharing.

Having Daly and Fehr meet until midnight is a great sign. Up until now every session has ended because they weren't making progress.
 

OBLAMA2009

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we dont need that sport in america. we just had the world series, were in the middle of fuball and b-ball gist started
 

sjwaste

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I actually have some hope for a resolution soon. If the owners have actually agreed to cover the cost of the Make Whole arrangement, then they're essentially in agreement on the salary issue. That's obviously the biggest impediment to an agreement, followed by revenue sharing. The NHL met the PA in the middle on revenue sharing.

Having Daly and Fehr meet until midnight is a great sign. Up until now every session has ended because they weren't making progress.

I really hope the NHL never plays another game. This shit will go on every time the CBA comes due and I'm tired of it. The players have paid 2 times now for league mismanagement, and the league now wants them to do it a 3rd time. Ridiculous.

If by some miracle the NHL dissolved and a new league formed with 26-28 teams, I'd be very happy. Drop the Devils, Islanders, Florida, Carolina, Tampa, Nashville and Phoenix, or consider moving two of them back to Canada (Quebec City, Hamilton) and one to Seattle.

I hope this really hurts the teams that just doled out $100M contracts before deciding to lock out the players. The Preds, the Wild, those guys that put up the big money and now want rollbacks.

If this league wants to fix its shit, the bigger market owners need to share more revenue, or they need to pony up to contract out the teams that will never be profitable without assistance. It was their own fucking fault that this situation even happened, allowing for ridiculous expansion and relocation to non-hockey markets because they wanted to collect some expansion/relo fees. Short-sighted and awful for the sport. The league is poorly run from top to bottom.

I really do hope the NHL cancels this season, loses the next one, and never plays another game. It's bad enough that the quality of the sport has suffered, but neither side gives a shit about the fans or the team employees. I've been a Flyers fan for a long time, but if this league returns, I don't think I'll be back as a fan.
 

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Lifer
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I really hope the NHL never plays another game. This shit will go on every time the CBA comes due and I'm tired of it. The players have paid 2 times now for league mismanagement, and the league now wants them to do it a 3rd time. Ridiculous.

If by some miracle the NHL dissolved and a new league formed with 26-28 teams, I'd be very happy. Drop the Devils, Islanders, Florida, Carolina, Tampa, Nashville and Phoenix, or consider moving two of them back to Canada (Quebec City, Hamilton) and one to Seattle.

I hope this really hurts the teams that just doled out $100M contracts before deciding to lock out the players. The Preds, the Wild, those guys that put up the big money and now want rollbacks.

If this league wants to fix its shit, the bigger market owners need to share more revenue, or they need to pony up to contract out the teams that will never be profitable without assistance. It was their own fucking fault that this situation even happened, allowing for ridiculous expansion and relocation to non-hockey markets because they wanted to collect some expansion/relo fees. Short-sighted and awful for the sport. The league is poorly run from top to bottom.

I really do hope the NHL cancels this season, loses the next one, and never plays another game. It's bad enough that the quality of the sport has suffered, but neither side gives a shit about the fans or the team employees. I've been a Flyers fan for a long time, but if this league returns, I don't think I'll be back as a fan.

That's nice. If you don't feel like being a fan anymore, why are you polluting this thread with your drivel?
 

sjwaste

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That's nice. If you don't feel like being a fan anymore, why are you polluting this thread with your drivel?

The thread title is "Missing the NHL?" and I think I'm on topic with that question. I miss pro hockey, I don't miss the disaster that the NHL has become.
 

Balt

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After the broadcasting contracts and viewership that were lost with the last lockout, I really couldn't believe that another one was possible.

It was hard enough being a hockey fan when games were broadcast on ESPN, it became even harder after they weren't. Now that I don't have cable any more, even if the league comes back it's unlikely I'll be able to see anything other than a few games a year that NBC may broadcast for charity's sake on a Saturday afternoon.

Too bad.
 

sjwaste

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After the broadcasting contracts and viewership that were lost with the last lockout, I really couldn't believe that another one was possible.

It was hard enough being a hockey fan when games were broadcast on ESPN, it became even harder after they weren't. Now that I don't have cable any more, even if the league comes back it's unlikely I'll be able to see anything other than a few games a year that NBC may broadcast for charity's sake on a Saturday afternoon.

Too bad.

They actually have a very nice broadcasting deal with NBC, since the NHL is basically the cornerstone sport of NBC Sports Network (what used to be called Versus). It's much better than the previous ESPN deal. The rest of the league can probably thank Flyers owner Ed Snider for that deal, which is probably why Snider is rumored to be one of the owners hellbent on not expanding revenue sharing. From what I know, the rest of the league mostly hates him, especially the owners of other franchises that are now in line for a handout. Snider and the rest of the big boys (Boston, NYR, Detroit, Toronto, Montreal) have a lot of pull. A big reason why there hasn't been resolution yet is because that group, give or take a few teams (probably add Chicago and Vancouver), are also split with the other owners on the extent of revenue sharing.

The NHL has 4-6 teams that either shouldn't exist or are in the wrong locations. Those were bad decisions, and the fans are about to lose another season because the 3 groups (big owners, mid/small owners, and the players) can't decide on who should pay for that. I obviously can't prove it, but I'd go so far as to say that if Phoenix, one of the Isles or Devils, Tampa, the Panthers and Columbus didn't exist, or if two of them were in better markets, there wouldn't be a lockout right now.

I'm getting by OK with Hockey East games, but I'll probably check out some AHL in person when the Phantoms come up to play the Monarchs or the Pirates.
 
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Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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After the broadcasting contracts and viewership that were lost with the last lockout, I really couldn't believe that another one was possible.

It was hard enough being a hockey fan when games were broadcast on ESPN, it became even harder after they weren't. Now that I don't have cable any more, even if the league comes back it's unlikely I'll be able to see anything other than a few games a year that NBC may broadcast for charity's sake on a Saturday afternoon.

Too bad.

At least they're not on SportsChannel anymore. Not sure how it's harder to watch now that its not on ESPN. It's still on basic cable and sometimes broadcast tv. Of course it will be difficult is you don't have cable. You don't get ESPN either. Cable cutters can pay to stream games.

IIRC the current tv deal lasts through 2020 so it's a non-factor in the lockout.
 

sjwaste

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Aug 2, 2000
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Really, though, are you guys actually defending the NHL as a product, or are you just giving me shit? I don't mind the latter, but I can't believe you guys are defending a league that is about to cancel a season on you. You're the fans, do you really plan to go back and spend money on this bullshit league that has a work stoppage every 5-7 years?
 
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