Mission Critical Basic Arithmetic

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Circlenaut

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First, yes I can do basic arithmetic in my head fairly fast but it'll never be as fast as me quickly typing into a tabletop calculator. The reason I bring this up is because when calculating things like concentrations you don't want to screw up because of material costs and time wasted making a solution (one wrong ingredient out of 15 screws up the whole batch for a complex growth medium). Out of the last 3 labs I've worked in they've always had one of those fat fingers calculator that does just basic math next to the balances. This lab is the first that doesn't. When I asked the professor about putting a calculator there he said "do it in your head". I said sure, it's his lab. The thing is I've already screw up once because of calculation error, so now I always just pull out my phone to do calculations. Just curious what you people out there think.

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Do you trust your brain with mission critical calculations?
 
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No. It's 2009 and technology is abundant and cheap. There's absolutely no good reason not to use it, and the professor sounds like a cynical old twat. I'm very good at mental arithmetic, but if it's critical then I will check it, at least once.
 

Circlenaut

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
No. It's 2009 and technology is abundant and cheap. There's absolutely no good reason not to use it, and the professor sounds like a cynical old twat. I'm very good at mental arithmetic, but if it's critical then I will check it, at least once.

He's not old but he's cynical. Went to one of those German polytechnic schools. He rules the lab with an iron fist.
 

eLiu

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I use both. As I'm typing simple arithmetic into the calculator or doing more complex math in maple or something, I try (as much as possible) to run sanity checks in my brain. For simple calculations, sanity check = do the same calculation mentally and see what I get; if something doesn't match, then re-calculate. Because really, typing stuff into a calculator or computer isn't error free either. For more complex stuff I'll make some simplifying assumptions and try to make sure the answer I get makes sense.
 

Warman

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i only use calculators when im working with a combination of 4 digits in the calculation.

im pretty good when doing single to single digit and single to double digit calculations on my brain ( 7 x 8 , 9 x 75 , etc... ) , but ill always use calculators for single to triple digit or double to double digit calcs ( like 5 x 136, 27 x 49)

 

JJChicken

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Originally posted by: Pippy
First, yes I can do basic arithmetic in my head fairly fast but it'll never be as fast as me quickly typing into a tabletop calculator. The reason I bring this up is because when calculating things like concentrations you don't want to screw up because of material costs and time wasted making a solution (one wrong ingredient out of 15 screws up the whole batch for a complex growth medium). Out of the last 3 labs I've worked in they've always had one of those fat fingers calculator that does just basic math next to the balances. This lab is the first that doesn't. When I asked the professor about putting a calculator there he said "do it in your head". I said sure, it's his lab. The thing is I've already screw up once because of calculation error, so now I always just pull out my phone to do calculations. Just curious what you people out there think.

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Do you trust your brain with mission critical calculations?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10273119-1.html
 

Squisher

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When I'm doing my income taxes I pull out my calculator with a paper tape so I can review if all my keystrokes were correct. I worked in a bank many moons ago, you always had a hard copy to review.
 

Jeff7

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Nope, I don't trust mine if I'm adding anything more than two 2-digit numbers.

If I go much more than that, as soon as I calculate the sum of the first column, I've forgotten one or two digits of the first number.
My short term memory for that kind of stuff seems to utterly suck.



 

Eli

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
No. It's 2009 and technology is abundant and cheap. There's absolutely no good reason not to use it, and the professor sounds like a cynical old twat. I'm very good at mental arithmetic, but if it's critical then I will check it, at least once.

QFT.
 
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