Missouri police officer guns down armed 18 year old

DrPizza

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Armed. ARMED. And pointing the gun at the officer (there's video).

Yet, it triggers more protests and more violence.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...e-officer-shoots-kills-man-near-ferguson.html

Better source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-Michael-Brown-killed-Ferguson-Missouri.html

If it weren't so tragic, this would be funny.

'The police was messing with him,' she told the newspaper. 'He was trying to get up and run. When he tried to get up and ran they started shooting him.
'He was a good young man. He was 18. He was trying to get his life back together. We were trying to get him back in school and stuff.'
She denied that her son was armed. 'He had no gun,' she said.

But, this time, there's video footage of what happened. What do the protesters want? "If you're going to arrest an 18 year old black man, you must give him a 30 second head start to fire his weapon"?
 
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HomerJS

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The police say he was armed. I can't tell what it is.

Also he didn't have his body camera turned on which causes more problems.

If a gun was pointed at the cop it changes everything. Problem is things are already out of control.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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The police say he was armed. I can't tell what it is.

Also he didn't have his body camera turned on which causes more problems.

If a gun was pointed at the cop it changes everything. Problem is things are already out of control.

It changes nothing. The riots and destruction were tacitly approved with no consequences. This is the fruits of labor in pronouncing Wilson guilty and excusing all other violence. Congratulations, it was hard fought for and those people won.
 

brianmanahan

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this crap is getting more ridiculous all the time

"he was a good young man"
 
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WackyDan

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I'll say it first...

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

The thug's family members and supporting protesters are already spinning a narrative on this one that he was shot while trying to get up to run. * Probably because he had already been shot by the officer for pointing a gun at the officer and the officer told him to stay down and the little asshole couldn't be bothered to listen.

Yeah... Protest that.
 
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Blanky

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Armed. ARMED. And pointing the gun at the officer (there's video).

Yet, it triggers more protests and more violence.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...e-officer-shoots-kills-man-near-ferguson.html

Better source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-Michael-Brown-killed-Ferguson-Missouri.html

If it weren't so tragic, this would be funny.

'The police was messing with him,' she told the newspaper. 'He was trying to get up and run. When he tried to get up and ran they started shooting him.
'He was a good young man. He was 18. He was trying to get his life back together. We were trying to get him back in school and stuff.'
She denied that her son was armed. 'He had no gun,' she said.

But, this time, there's video footage of what happened. What do the protesters want? "If you're going to arrest an 18 year old black man, you must give him a 30 second head start to fire his weapon"?
Heh, you took exactly the quotes I did here

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37020865&postcount=6099

And now that surveillance shows he had a gun I wonder what his mother will say about her "good man". Maybe that he never intended to actually use the gun and he wouldn't shoot except in self defense by somebody trying to hurt him, who knows.
 

JackBurton

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The police say he was armed. I can't tell what it is.

Also he didn't have his body camera turned on which causes more problems.

If a gun was pointed at the cop it changes everything. Problem is things are already out of control.

lol, that is hilarious. I knew there would be some bullsh!t coming from the other side to find another angle to make this poor defensive child into an angel. "That's what the cop said." Hey how about, "he didn't have to shoot him that many times." That's a good one too. Now let's get all the stupid people together and do some protesting. Am I right?
 
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HomerJS

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It changes nothing. The riots and destruction were tacitly approved with no consequences. This is the fruits of labor in pronouncing Wilson guilty and excusing all other violence. Congratulations, it was hard fought for and those people won.

Approved by who? I don't recall anyone advocating riots except a few people on the street.
 

WackyDan

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The police say he was armed. I can't tell what it is.

Also he didn't have his body camera turned on which causes more problems.

If a gun was pointed at the cop it changes everything. Problem is things are already out of control.

FYI - The gun doesn't have to be even pointed at the cop to justify the thug getting shot.
 

HomerJS

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lol, that is hilarious. I knew there would be some bullsh!t coming from the other side to find another angle to make this poor defensive child into angel. "That's what the cop said." Hey how about, "he didn't gave to shoot him that many times." That's a good one too. Now let's get all the stupid people together and do some protesting. Am I right?

Not surprised you would characterize an observation as bullshit or approval of violence.

I only said from the video I couldn't tell if a gun was pointed at cop. Based on everything that has happened over the last year not willing to take their word for it without proof.

You probably still think the guy killed at the Walmart had it coming.
 

Matt1970

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So what now? Are cops supposed to wait until suspects are actually shooting at the police and wait to see if the bullets are actually hitting them before cops can defend themselves?
 

Blanky

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Not surprised you would characterize an observation as bullshit or approval of violence.

I only said from the video I couldn't tell if a gun was pointed at cop. Based on everything that has happened over the last year not willing to take their word for it without proof.

You probably still think the guy killed at the Walmart had it coming.
We can all agree the video quality is God awful. However, I'm sure that forensics will determine this guy had his prints on the gun and when video footage plus witnesses (worthless as they are) are combined, there will be no plausible notion that cops planted it; it was his, and it was what was pointed.
 

JackBurton

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Not surprised you would characterize an observation as bullshit or approval of violence.

I only said from the video I couldn't tell if a gun was pointed at cop. Based on everything that has happened over the last year not willing to take their word for it without proof.

You probably still think the guy killed at the Walmart had it coming.

Funny you didn't use Michael Brown as your example.
 
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If it weren't so tragic, this would be funny.
Maybe in another lifetime we could look back and laugh. However, the police in many areas are losing the trust of the community, which is going to lead to more problems for everyone. Just look at the responses in your thread, people being utterly dismissive of how these communities feel - this is a problem that's not going to be fixed overnight.
 

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Approved by who? I don't recall anyone advocating riots except a few people on the street.

I hate to break it to you, but while you were talking about the peaceful protesters others completely got away with burning down a good portion of the town. Oh yeah, those thug cops who were dressed to deal with those sorts? Racists!

The good Brown who was out living the example of Christ, the one who surrendered and was shot in the head while kneeling with his hands up, the one shot in the back, the good kid? A hell of a lot on that. Burn a town? Well that's just a natural consequence. No big deal, at least if the measure of significance is public outcry and arrests. Advocate? Not many. Ignoring those harmed by it? Oh, well that's nothing compared to the tragedy of Brown.
 

Svnla

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Do we see anything about "gentle peaceful young man" and "about to start college" and 12 years old picture of said young man yet?

Do we see "but..but..but...the po po shouldn't shoot him, shoulda just taser him...whaaaaaaaa" yet?
 
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I see the thug apologists are out in full force.

I am waiting for the nutjob from BC to start bitching.
 

WackyDan

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Did we see anything about "gentle young man" and "about the start college" and 12 years old picture of said young man yet?

"Martin said her son turned 18 in September. He had been expelled from school but was trying to get his life back together, she said, and she was encouraging him to join Job Corps."
 

JackBurton

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Maybe in another lifetime we could look back and laugh. However, the police in many areas are losing the trust of the community, which is going to lead to more problems for everyone. Just look at the responses in your thread, people being utterly dismissive of how these communities feel - this is a problem that's not going to be fixed overnight.

I'm going to give you a little piece of reality. Those community that have "lost trust" in the police are the same communities that are willing to burn down and steal from their neighbors. These are shitholes communities (see Furgeson), and the reason they are like that is not because of cops, it's because they refuse to address the real problem, which is themselves.
 

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So what now? Are cops supposed to wait until suspects are actually shooting at the police and wait to see if the bullets are actually hitting them before cops can defend themselves?


Finally you get it!


You see, it is not the public's job to take ALL the risk in every encounter with cops.

Bottom line: cops today are pussies. They are scared and they don't know have much to do and they aren't very bright (in fact most departments disqualify you if your aptitude tests come back with anything exceptional). They have a gun and because the only way they know to deal with any confrontation is to blindly empty their magazine in the general direction of the nearest brown people we have all these shootings.


Cops should take 100% of the risk and there should be 10 dead cops for every dead innocent citizen they kill. It's your job you pussies! If you can't handle it then please do us all a favor and quit!
 
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