Missouri police officer guns down armed 18 year old

[smackababy]

Probably because other countries have better methods to reduce crime or they just kill the criminal.

I think a lot of it has to do with the USA's drug policy being extraordinarily harsh for no reason. Quite a few countries don't give the mandatory minimum sentences for drugs and have much better systems in place to combat that.

It doesn't help that we also have a very high violent crime rate in the US. We have more murders than other countries, so of course, we would have more people in prison. We also have a judicial system that grants automatic appeals for people condemned to death. Of the countries with the death penalty, how many have that? Likely, not many.

 

[alzan]

I support the cops. We have become too soft on crime and criminals. It use to be if you stole a horse you were hung by the neck. We need more laws like that. If you steal a car you should be executed as soon as possible. If you are soft on criminals they just committing more and more crime. They should arrest people for jaywalking and throwing even one cigarette on the ground. If you give people an inch, they take a mile. Just We must have law and order. This started with putting up with those stupid wall street protests. If someone protests for 3 days that is the limit anyone should put up with them. After that they are just trying to hold the public hostage. If this means the police have to use billy clubs or guns I am OK with it. If people take to the streets and demand the violence, give them violence. Without order we are just a bunch of anarchists.

Quite a few countries in the ME have laws of the type you seem to prefer.

Send us a postcard and tell us how great it is.

 

[werepossum]

More often than not, children put on different acts around their parents vs what they do around their peers.

As a former asshole child, I can confirm that I did a lot of dirt and my mom did not know. She most certainly would tell other people that I was a good honest kid that never told lies and did everything I was supposed to do.

Of course, I have never broken the law, fought a cop, or pulled a gun on one...but, I'm just making a point.


I think all of our mothers would say good things about us, even if they don't know what the hell they are talking about.

A few days ago, a kid in Dayton got shot by another guy after he tried to steal his Jordans at gunpoint. The boy who was killed was with two other people who ran off when he got shot. The father (and mother) of one of the kids (who ran) couldn't believe it. He was in complete denial. He claimed that he gave his son enough money to buy the shoes...so why would he try to steal them? He totally didn't understand. His son is being charged with felony murder. The father doesn't understand any of it.

I believe that sometimes these parents really do think their kids are good people and will deny it to the end of the Earth that they are anything but. Of course, some of these parents know full well that their kids are rotten, but they don't want everyone else to know that...so, they get on TV and put on a show about their "baby".

Well said.

Yeah, I bet the quite literal debtors prison that the Ferguson justice system has created for its residents has absolutely nothing to do with it...

Should they take it out on the police themselves, probably not because the police are simply doing what they are ordered to. With that said, the police are the group that starts the encounter and are the people that interact with the public.

Cops everywhere need to adopt the new New York policy of not enforcing bullshit laws.

Quite a few countries in the ME have laws of the type you seem to prefer.

Send us a postcard and tell us how great it is.

We have an amazing duality of being both too hard and too easy on crime. I knew a guy who when he was Assistant DA came home to find his home being burgled. Both were armed with loaded (and stolen) guns, and when police raided their homes (both still lived with parents) they found items stolen from a couple dozen homes. They were tried and convicted of numerous felonies, including (IIRC) four burglaries and gun violations. As first time offenders, they received probation only. On the other hand, we have a man being arrested for "aggravated operating of a motor vehicle without a license" for selling loose cigarettes out of it.