Missouri Police Officer guns down unarmed 18 year old

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IronWing

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That's going to get people killed, either from pileups back up the road or when the drivers figure out the cause of the delay.
 

bshole

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Good god, it just went national. Protesters are taking over New York City as I post!
 

ivwshane

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Newsflash: the prosecutor had enough evidence to conclude that Wilson shouldn't have been charged - the same conclusion a grand jury reached. He did pursue justice by presenting all of the evidence to the grand jury. You seem to stillllllll be operating from the perspective that justice means Wilson in jail. The ONLY evidence that Wilson's actions violated the law was in the form of eyewitness testimony that was refuted by the physical evidence. Other eyewitness testimony matched the physical evidence, and led to the conclusion that Wilson shouldn't be charged.

lol! The job of the prosecutor is to prosecute. In a grand jury their job is to present evidence to show probable cause. His job isn't to provide evidence for the defense. The prosecutor is also responsible for bringing up the indictment and if they don't have evidence then they don't indict the accused. The prosecutor, not only tried to indict wilson he then called testimony from wilson supporters which is highly unusual.

On behalf of the many level headed posters in here, fuck you. This isn't an anti-black thread. Most of the posters have wanted the truth to come out. You, apparently can't cope with the truth - that a young black man was shot directly as a result of HIS OWN BEHAVIOR. TThat's not anti-black, it's anti-false narrative perpetuated by the media.

lol at level headed posters! The same posters who hope for riots, the same posters who've condemned brown as a thug even though brown never had a trial, the same posters who claim to know the facts, the same facts based on testimony from wilson and other officers who wilson told his story to. They are interested in the truth? That's why when I asked questions none of them provide me with witness testimony and instead repeat talking points. So fuck you and your fake ass claim of wanting the truth.

None of the coroners said any such thing. For someone so passionate about this case, your recollection of facts is pretty poor. The coroners examined the body, not blood spatters in the car. Of course, it's pretty apparent that in your head, you continue to alter facts until they fit your preconceived conclusions.

Oh no? The coroner never said such a thing?


http://m.dailykos.com/story/2014/10...-What-the-St-Louis-Post-Dispatch-Says-It-Does

I'll quote it for you because I know you won't read it for yourself:

And, in fact, Melinek appeared on Lawrence O'Donnell's "The Last Word" last night to essentially call bullshit on what the Post-Dispatch said she said, and followed it up with the previously-linked post on her blog. According to the doctor, this is what she told the reporter from the newspaper (emphasis mine):

The graze wound on the right thumb is oriented upwards, indicating that the tip of the thumb is toward the weapon. The hand wound has gunpowder particles on microscopic examination, which suggests that it is a close-range wound. That means that Mr. Brown's hand would have been close to the barrel of the gun. Given the investigative report which says that the officer's weapon discharged during a struggle in the officer's car, this wound to the right thumb likely occurred at that time.
We all know that "close to the barrel of the gun" is the exact same thing as "going for the gun." Or not.
But the reporters' fuckery doesn't end there. The article goes on:

Melinek also said the autopsy did not support witnesses who have claimed Brown was shot while running away from Wilson, or with his hands up.
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A sixth shot that hit the forearm traveled from the back of the arm to the inner arm, which means Brown’s palms could not have been facing Wilson, as some witnesses have said, Melinek said. That trajectory shows Brown probably was not taking a standard surrender position with arms above the shoulders and palms out when he was hit, she said.
 

LegendKiller

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CTH is reporting that what could be one of the eyewitnesses that was a close friend of Dorian Johnson and one of the eyewitnesses that gave Wilson-supporting testimony is the kid that was shot and burned in the trunk of the car.

Snitches get stitches.

Ohh, and the Head is a Bloods leader. Nice.
 

compuwiz1

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Nobody I know posts Dailykos articles, except liberals. That rag has zero credibility with most sane people. Hardly considered a reliable source of news.
 

himkhan

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Darren Wilson is a hero!

People who enlist to go off to foreign countries protecting our freedoms who come home in caskets are heroes. Someone who steps in front of a car to push a child out of the way to save the child's life and ends up dead is a hero.

While I think he Wilson was completely justified in defending himself and if that meant putting Brown down then so be it. Zero fucks given to him or his thieving, bullying thug ass. But Wilson a hero? To who? LEO nut huggers? Come on man. Troll a little more dignified. :whiste:
 

DrPizza

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Oh no? The coroner never said such a thing?


http://m.dailykos.com/story/2014/10...-What-the-St-Louis-Post-Dispatch-Says-It-Does

I'll quote it for you because I know you won't read it for yourself:

Blood splatter in no way indicates that brown attacked wilson, I don't even know how you could come to that conclusion. One of the coroners even said as much.
Your quote says no such thing about blood splatter. Further, the prosecutor's job is NOT to prosecute innocent people that have no evidence against them of any crime.
 

KentState

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People who enlist to go off to foreign countries protecting our freedoms who come home in caskets are heroes. Someone who steps in front of a car to push a child out of the way to save the child's life and ends up dead is a hero.

While I think he Wilson was completely justified in defending himself and if that meant putting Brown down then so be it. Zero fucks given to him or his thieving, bullying thug ass. But Wilson a hero? To who? LEO nut huggers? Come on man. Troll a little more dignified. :whiste:

Agree. I'm sure Wilson would have rather taken a sick day than fire his pistol, let alone kill someone. It was purely a reactionary situation and nothing to be proud or happy about. I'm have little sympathy for people that steal or break laws, but I think this kid got in over his head quickly and wound up dead.
 
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umm because he was high and just stole a box of swishers a few minutes earlier (which are popular to use with marijuana).

Yeah, and that so totally sounds like the kind of behavior that people exhibit when smoking bud. Especially after stealing a whole $30 worth of cigars. Yep, makes perfect sense that he would charge the cop who was shooting at him.

Your logic is impeccable.
 

ivwshane

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Your quote says no such thing about blood splatter. Further, the prosecutor's job is NOT to prosecute innocent people that have no evidence against them of any crime.

No it doesn't say anything about blood splatter it talks about the thumb injury and how it doesn't conclude anything about browns orientation. Smart people can conclude that also means it doesn't indicate whether or not brown was going for Wilson's gun or attacking him.


Yeah no shit it's not the prosecutors job to prosecute innocent people which is why, if he didn't think there wasn't enough evidence then he shouldn't have moved to indict in the first place.
 

LightPattern

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Christina Swarns, litigation director for the NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund today on the Newshour:
GWEN IFILL: Lacking cross-examination, among the things that were allowed to stand were the characterizations of Michael Brown as Hulk Hogan or as a demon that — and I want to go back to Christina Swarns on.
To what degree can you gauge whether that influences a jury, those kind of characterizations?


CHRISTINA SWARNS: You know, like, those kinds of characterizations which really do really echo in racial terms are extraordinarily damaging and they are extraordinarily influential and prejudicial in a jury proceeding.
Now, that’s the kind of claim that a defense attorney would be objecting to, that kind of statement that a defense attorney would be objecting to, would be raising as a basis for a new trial or a new sentencing.
I mean, that is absolutely inflammatory and prejudicial. It shouldn’t have been allowed to go to the jury unchallenged.
I'm honestly thinking of writing Ms Swarns to ask how the hell characterizing someone as Hulk Hogan is racist??

 
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ivwshane

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Christina Swarns, litigation director for the NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund today on the Newshour:
I'm honestly thinking of writing Ms Swarns to ask how the hell characterizing someone as Hulk Hogan is racist??

She didn't call it racist.
You don't understand how portraying brown as a big scary black man feeds into deep rooted racial feelings?
 

thujone

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Where you getting your facts? Have you checked all that data?

The grand jury didn't seem to find the same inconsistencies that you see.

I tend to think you're seeing inconsistencies because you're not basing it on actual facts, just 'facts' trumped up for media hype.

And the end of the day, the only people who really saw all the evidence sat on the Grand Jury, and they didn't find the evidence you see.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...Cards-level-corruption-in-Ferguson-and-beyond

can't remember but i'm fairly certain there's a video where you can watch them measure the distance in real time
 

cubby1223

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lol at level headed posters! The same posters who hope for riots,
Who hoped for riots? We just knew it was inevitable.

the same posters who've condemned brown as a thug even though brown never had a trial,
THERE IS INDISPUTABLE VIDEO EVIDENCE HE COMMITTED STRONG ARM ROBBERY!

You know, the video that just a week ago you denied as ever being in existence. And a barrage of insults that flowed from your keyboard towards anyone and everyone who said such video existed.

The fact that you think this is all a massive smear campaign against Brown, given the massive smear campaign that has gone on against Wilson? You believe you have any fucking moral high-ground?

This all began with the smear campaign against Wilson. It all began when the community was manipulated to believe things that were not true. People took notice and thought to themselves, "what the fuck are they doing?" The blowback against Brown's character was not so much attacks on Brown, it was against the mob to stop making shit up, stop causing destruction, stop causing so much more pain, stop lying to yourselves.


the same posters who claim to know the facts,
You really want to go into the war of who was led to believe falsehoods more frequently? Who was manipulated by whom? You really want to dig back through this thread and tally it up? And especially tally up those whom refuse to budge an inch from their bias when more clarity is reached on a particular topic?


They are interested in the truth?
Speak it right now loud and clear. What is your truth? The truth is there never was any evidence that pointed towards murder. And because of the fucking manipulation that goes on in these communities, buildings are destroyed. More people are injured, more are dead. Jobs are lost. The community has been condemned to at least another decade of poverty. And for what? So Al Sharpton can rake in a few more donations? Fucking congratulations on the truth coming out.

So fuck you and your fake ass claim of wanting the truth.

Are you almost finished with your hissy fit?
 

OutHouse

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Yeah, and that so totally sounds like the kind of behavior that people exhibit when smoking bud. Especially after stealing a whole $30 worth of cigars. Yep, makes perfect sense that he would charge the cop who was shooting at him.

Your logic is impeccable.

No the facts proven by multiple subject matter experts is impeccable.
 

Jaskalas

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My questions is, would someone run towards instead of away from an individual who has a weapon raised toward them...

Why would he rob a store, then assault an officer in the first place?

The drugs he was on clearly didn't leave him thinking straight. Something massively impaired his mind that day.
 

thujone

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i mean if you want more... i still think it's crazy suspicious that when they first announced the robbery before he was shot they "were unsure" of whether of wilson had known of the robbery... and now at trial wilson says it's the SOLE REASON for the whole incident.

i think it's absurd to believe the story of a person who is facing a possible murder charge with so many conflicting witnesses... a person who worked in a PD that was so corrupt it was disbanded no less.

i think wilson's whole story on the stand sounds absurd. it sounds like a bad action tv show script.

i think it's absurd that there's so many people saying brown 'got what he deserved'... i've been robbed before and i've been assaulted before. i don't think any of those people who committed those crimes against me needed or deserved to die for what they did.


i'm not saying i know 100% that wilson willfully decided to kill brown... but it really seems to me (and a lot of other people) that there definitely was enough to warrant a trial
 
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