Missouri Police Officer guns down unarmed 18 year old

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CitizenKain

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The biggest racists on the board are the ones that automatically blame a public servant for murder before they have any facts... at all.

Then as there becomes some semblance of reasonable doubt to their original stance, they double down on stupid.

Don't worry. It isn't their fault, but part of their indoctrination since they were young.

That is irony for you, you calling others racists. Oh how rich.

Maybe because he knew that he would get his ass handed to him through "street justice" if he "snitched" on them? You know, like they did to his store after he "snitched".

But hey, don't let the truth behind "street justice" get in the way. after all, it's why so many witnesses gave truthful (ha!) accounts of what happened. Remember, all of the shots were in the back, he was running away and was a clean kid with no drugs, no history of violence and no problems with authority. And the cop got the wound on his own.

You guys are fucking racists.

Speaking of indoctrinated trash, its you.
Or maybe what happened isn't what you really want to happen?
 

Jaskalas

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Just when I thought I had it figured out, police give this info to reporters:

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A St. Louis Post Dispatch reporter says that Ferguson, Missouri, police confirm that more than a dozen witnesses to the shooting of teenager Michael Brown have backed up the account of the incident offered by the officer who killed the teenager.
 

LTC8K6

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Just when I thought I had it figured out, police give this info to reporters:

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A St. Louis Post Dispatch reporter says that Ferguson, Missouri, police confirm that more than a dozen witnesses to the shooting of teenager Michael Brown have backed up the account of the incident offered by the officer who killed the teenager.

So far it's just the tweet, though.

Logically there are witnesses that support both sides.

The ones supporting the cop probably would never speak in public in that neighborhood.
 

CitizenKain

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Just when I thought I had it figured out, police give this info to reporters:

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A St. Louis Post Dispatch reporter says that Ferguson, Missouri, police confirm that more than a dozen witnesses to the shooting of teenager Michael Brown have backed up the account of the incident offered by the officer who killed the teenager.

St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter Christine Byers tweeted Monday that police told her that an account of the shooting by a woman named "Josie" who called into a syndicated radio program last Friday matches the account given by Darren Wilson, the officer who shot Brown.

So all these people were traveling out of country for the last week or something?

Someone else tweeted that the Purge was real guys, and it was going to happen!

Watching streams its incredibly just how badly the FPD continues to fuck this up, its like an entire police force full of the dumbest people they could find. Lets simultaneously yell at people to move, while shooting a LRAD at them so they can't hear it.
 
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BeeBoop

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They don't want to go on national TV to side with the white man, snitches get stiches. Only Indians get their store burned to the ground right?

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LTC8K6

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St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter Christine Byers tweeted Monday that police told her that an account of the shooting by a woman named "Josie" who called into a syndicated radio program last Friday matches the account given by Darren Wilson, the officer who shot Brown.

So all these people were traveling out of country for the last week or something?

Someone else tweeted that the Purge was real guys, and it was going to happen!

Watching streams its incredibly just how badly the FPD continues to fuck this up, its like an entire police force full of the dumbest people they could find. Lets simultaneously yell at people to move, while shooting a LRAD at them so they can't hear it.

The FPD hasn't been in charge for most of the time the riots have been going on. It was FPD early, then ST Louis County PD, and then on the 14th the MSHP took over with Captain Johnson, and now the National Guard is there.

FPD has only about 50 sworn officers total. There is no way they have been running the show.
 

Attic

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Just when I thought I had it figured out, police give this info to reporters:

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A St. Louis Post Dispatch reporter says that Ferguson, Missouri, police confirm that more than a dozen witnesses to the shooting of teenager Michael Brown have backed up the account of the incident offered by the officer who killed the teenager.

Here's what CNN ran on that earlier today,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQVQgfMevCg


From all the information i've seen, I think it is likely that Brown was charging at the officer and that Brown initially started the physical altercation with the officer. Would the Wilson really try to physically assault Brown?, I mean really? Obviously that would have been asking for trouble that Wilson couldn't handle. Try to imagine, knowing know the size of both, Wilson trying to pull Brown into the car.... does not make sense. Wilson is going to try and manhandle Brown?

Listen to Johnson on his interview again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIjma3CGDe0
He had been coached on what to say and/or was reading from cue cards. I think that threw off a lot of how this played out were he not to have misrepresented what occurred. I'm calling that a fairly damaging set of lies and it looks to me that he was coached on what to say and how to say it and where to place emphasis in the made up BS he spit out. Also note at the end, the control of this star witness here by Crump and Co. Similar to what occured with Crump and Co over Dee Dee. Dorian Johnson's account was not given to LE, though LE did reach out to get Johnson's account. Crump and Co control Johnson so that they can get their narrative out, they paraded Johnson all over MSNBC and CNN to get this thing fired up, and they did this while not getting Johnson to LE for the interview. It's games....

If I'm somewhat on pace with what has occurred, there is still a question of if the deadly force was justified if Brown was charging the officer. Legally it appears so, but for me that's where this is wrong. Backup has been called, run away and avoid using lethal force to take down the unarmed man. Don't patrol alone either.
 
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werepossum

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Got this from another board:

As I'm searching for this info what I'm seeing is the same video that's already been posted but the video starts with Mike's hands behind his back, then he hands something to the cashier and the rellos to his boy behind him. Then his boy puts them back on the counter.

Now this is halfway making sense

Mike paid for the rellos, handed them to his boy, then the clerk started tripping like I NEED SOME ID and his boy just put the things back on the counter because he figured they weren't getting them. Then Mike said FUCK IT YOU GOT MY MONEY I'M TAKING MY RELLOS and grabbed some n left. Clerk comes from around the counter because he possibly sold tobacco to a minor, which could cost him but mike pushes him out the way. That would also explain why the clerk didn't call to report a robbery. If he reports it and it's proven that Mike was a minor, he gets ticketed as well.

I know it's just speculation but these things could have possibly happened. I mean if they can speculate that mike broke out on all fours like an animal charging at an armed policeman, then I can assume this happened as well
That makes as much sense as anything I've read here. Certainly makes as much sense as the idea that Brown ran thirty-five feet away, then turned, dropped his head to the point of hardly being able to see the cop, and charged. We don't really know either way, maybe the old man didn't report the robbery because it's more trouble (and danger) than it's worth and maybe he didn't report the robbery because there was no robbery. Same with the cop, we've heard he was treated for a "swollen face" and released and we've heard he had a fractured eye socket, but we don't KNOW. Cases like this, both sides put out bullshit to sway public opinion.

You know absolutely nothing about Mike Brown or his life. All you know is a few scattered facts and a whole lot of conjecture regarding roughly 45 min. at the end of his short life.

Your statement tells us a lot about you and nothing about Brown. And what it says about you is really rather pathetic.
That's always worth keeping in mind. We make assumptions based on a small slice of someone's life when we don't even know all the details of that small slice, let alone the totality of this young man. Maybe he's the Devil reborn and maybe he's Christ come to redeem us by scattering the money lenders' cigars, but smart money is on the vast gray area in between. And at the least he had people who love him and are grieving.

YES!! In fact one CNN reporter who was black said the Police are the problem...they are creating issues by their mere presence --
Yeah . . . I'm guessing that the people whose stores are not yet looted would disagree.
 
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I dunno, does this speak for itself?

"A Ferguson, Mo., police officer threatened to shoot a journalist in the face in front of a livestream with over 45,000 viewers, just after 11pm, nearly an hour before the second night of the town’s controversial curfew was meant to come into effect."

“Get that light off,” the cop tells the reporter, “or you’re getting shot.”

"The reporter says the cop pointed a gun in his face, and that the other policemen refused to tell him the name of that officer."

http://www.dailydot.com/politics/ferguson-cop-shoot-you-in-the-face/
 

Thebobo

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Yep its cause they're worried about being labeled rights violators. Gotta be it. Your hatred of cops is sickening.

Please, thats absurd, pointing out injustices does not make you a cop hater. Can I say your hatred of the OP is sickening?
 

LTC8K6

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I dunno, does this speak for itself?

"A Ferguson, Mo., police officer threatened to shoot a journalist in the face in front of a livestream with over 45,000 viewers, just after 11pm, nearly an hour before the second night of the town’s controversial curfew was meant to come into effect."

“Get that light off,” the cop tells the reporter, “or you’re getting shot.”

"The reporter says the cop pointed a gun in his face, and that the other policemen refused to tell him the name of that officer."

http://www.dailydot.com/politics/ferguson-cop-shoot-you-in-the-face/

"Or you're getting shot with this."

A word was deliberately left out to imply that the officer threatened to kill.

It was also most likely not a FPD officer, since they have comparatively few compared to St Louis County and the MHSP. 50ish versus a couple thousand.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Perhaps it's time to give the people what they want and let them burn their own town to the ground, but when that happens not one cent from anyone to repair or rebuild. Harsh, but maybe "you break it you bought it" is the only lesson they can learn.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Please, thats absurd, pointing out injustices does not make you a cop hater. Can I say your hatred of the OP is sickening?

The OP has no redeeming qualities in this case. He has the same hatred as those who hung others from trees to combat the "injustices" perpetrated on women with a rope. No trial, no real proof needed. We know what "they" are, and they're all alike. Pass the noose.
 

cyclohexane

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Just saw a story saying that a man was arrested on his own front porch for smoking after curfew time, at gunpoint. What the hell is this? Nazi Germany?
 

LTC8K6

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Just saw a story saying that a man was arrested on his own front porch for smoking after curfew time, at gunpoint. What the hell is this? Nazi Germany?

Seems like he would have been arrested for busting the curfew, not for smoking.

If there is rioting, and you get arrested, it's probably going to be at gunpoint.
 

Ordy

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Perhaps it's time to give the people what they want and let them burn their own town to the ground, but when that happens not one cent from anyone to repair or rebuild. Harsh, but maybe "you break it you bought it" is the only lesson they can learn.

I'm thinking the same thing here. Can we get a real list of what the protesters really want? What do the looters really want? I keep saying at work that it seems like they want no police. Just let them do whatever they want and leave them alone. As Hayabusa wrote above, I believe the entire town would be a smoking warzone within 4 days if those demands were met. Not that it isn't close to that already.
 

Londo_Jowo

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"Or you're getting shot with this."

A word was deliberately left out to imply that the officer threatened to kill.

It was also most likely not a FPD officer, since they have comparatively few compared to St Louis County and the MHSP. 50ish versus a couple thousand.

Or he meant he was going to shoot the light out. I know I wouldn't want to be blinded by a light when there's the potential for rocks, bottles, and the like being thrown at you by rioters.
 

Knowing

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There was mention a few pages back about "anarchists." While I haven't heard anything about them, the revolutionary communist party was confirmed in attendance the day after. Commie in the left of the frame.



I believe the NBPs are also confirmed for brawl.

Also, apparently people in cars with IL plates (allegedly from Chicago) are shooting at people.
 
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nehalem256

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If I'm somewhat on pace with what has occurred, there is still a question of if the deadly force was justified if Brown was charging the officer. Legally it appears so, but for me that's where this is wrong. Backup has been called, run away and avoid using lethal force to take down the unarmed man. Don't patrol alone either.

So cops are suppose to run away from people that go around assaulting cops?

How about if you don't want someone to shoot you don't assault them?

It is not the job of cops to protect bad people from the consequences of their own bad actions.
 

xBiffx

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Please, thats absurd, pointing out injustices does not make you a cop hater. Can I say your hatred of the OP is sickening?

What's absurd is your willful disregard for the OP's continuous use of lies and supposition to make these cops out to be bad guys. There has been little information released but already the OP has labeled Wilson a murderer. But not only that, he has gone as far as to say that the rest of the department are civil rights violators. All based on nothing but assumptions of what happened.

You sniping my posts and trying to call out absurdity is saying a lot more about you then it is about me.
 

TechBoyJK

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Great Al Jazeera article showing how rigid the racial divide in St. Louis. The dense african america areas are basically a 'Gaza' in that it's an area heavily concentrated of a certain type of people, and the law enforcement is all outsiders that view the residents as hostile and unstable.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/8/18/st-louis-segregation.html

Look at the East St. Louis area, and the rigid line where East St. Louis meets Belleville. That could be a war zone. There's as much tension in that area as Ferguson.
 

TechBoyJK

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Blue dot in the north is Ferguson. Scribbled dot down south by Fairview Heights is where I live.

I marked on the map where I think another area could end up in clashes.

It's rough down there. Where the line is between East StL and Belleville is incredibly racist. Both ways. Belleville's been on 60 Minutes before because of it. Called most racist town in America.

Belleville PD and St. Clair County would probably come down just as hard as StL.
 

Greenman

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I'm thinking the same thing here. Can we get a real list of what the protesters really want? What do the looters really want? I keep saying at work that it seems like they want no police. Just let them do whatever they want and leave them alone. As Hayabusa wrote above, I believe the entire town would be a smoking warzone within 4 days if those demands were met. Not that it isn't close to that already.

What they want is to burn and loot, that was obvious from day one. The few that are actually concerned about the event that kicked this off want the officer executed ASAP. If he could be hanged in public that would be great. Behind all of that is a community that believes the police are the enemy. They may be right, the cops may be out of control, or they may be reacting to a large number of stupid violent people. At this point, I'm inclined to think that the police are a product of the community they serve.
 
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"Or you're getting shot with this."

A word was deliberately left out to imply that the officer threatened to kill.

It was also most likely not a FPD officer, since they have comparatively few compared to St Louis County and the MHSP. 50ish versus a couple thousand.

For some reason, a police officer threatening to shoot a journalist, even if it's just with a tazer or beanbag round, still strikes me as being incredibly over the top. Since when is "turn the light off or you're getting shot with this" an acceptable police response?
 
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