Missouri Police Officer guns down unarmed 18 year old

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mizzou

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riot after the verdict, this whole rioting immediately after the effect is fucking bizarre.
 
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their culture is similar to ours.
They also have angry groups of people ready to riot if something awful happens.

Something to keep in mind, the similarities between Canada and the US tend to be rather superficial in many ways. There are a number of very deep differences in culture. In fact, it would be surprising if there weren't given the very different histories of the two countries.
 
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Somehow the concept of defense VS offense has been lost on you.

The men you so hate were defending a location. Which is a far reach from rioters, or throwing bricks to murder people on the interstate!

"defending a location" in a manner that happened to interfere with officers of the law trying to carry out their legal, court sanctioned duties. And, they claimed to be ready to do so with threats of (illegal) violence.
 

sportage

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I don't know.
Watching his mother and grand father on TV was heart breaking.
And we do have this trend happening in this country where the cops have risen into killing machines. Much like some violent video game. That trend has been talked about a lot in the media.
And obviously has gotten way out of control.
 

Londo_Jowo

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People need to be taught protest does not give one the right to destroy property or loot businesses.

Have an issue with the police department, peacefully protest at the police station.
 

HomerJS

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Somehow the concept of defense VS offense has been lost on you.

The men you so hate were defending a location. Which is a far reach from rioters, or throwing bricks to murder people on the interstate!

Did you miss the part about hockey??
 

WackyDan

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I don't know.
Watching his mother and grand father on TV was heart breaking.
And we do have this trend happening in this country where the cops have risen into killing machines. Much like some violent video game. That trend has been talked about a lot in the media.
And obviously has gotten way out of control.

You can't spot a trend via the media as they tend to gin it up quite a bit. From shark attacks to tornado, hurricanes, kids left in hot cars, etc... It only seems like a larger issue.
 

WackyDan

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Can anyone confirm or link to articles that this young man had a rap sheet and that the officer involved int he shooting was also black?
 

PokerGuy

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We don't even know the details of what happened yet -- so we have no idea if the shooting was justified or not -- but the race baiters are already on board (crump & co are on the case), Jesse and Al will surely be there soon, and of course rioting and looting is a given. Disgusting. No word yet on whether if obummer had a son he would be like the guy who got shot or not.
 

mizzou

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I don't know.
Much like some violent video game. That trend has been talked about a lot in the media.
And obviously has gotten way out of control.

This is EXACTLY the kind of shit that is pissing me off.

You have no clue what the historical statistics are on officer involved shootings, so how could you even remotely state " obviously has gotten way out of control "

Go find me some hard evidence that police are out of control, if you can, I will never post on P&N ever again.

and EDIT: Radley Balko does not count as a good source
 
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Londo_Jowo

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This is EXACTLY the kind of shit that is pissing me off.

You have no clue what the historical statistics are on officer involved shootings, so how could you even remotely state " obviously has gotten way out of control "

Go find me some hard evidence that police are out of control, if you can, I will never post on P&N ever again.

and EDIT: Radley Balko does not count as a good source

Can he use Oldgamer or McOwned as a source?
 

Jaskalas

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This is EXACTLY the kind of shit that is pissing me off.

You have no clue what the historical statistics are on officer involved shootings, so how could you even remotely state " obviously has gotten way out of control "

Go find me some hard evidence that police are out of control, if you can, I will never post on P&N ever again.

and EDIT: Radley Balko does not count as a good source

Rise of the Warrior Cop

The country's first official SWAT team started in the late 1960s in Los Angeles. By 1975, there were approximately 500 such units. Today, there are thousands. According to surveys conducted by the criminologist Peter Kraska of Eastern Kentucky University, just 13% of towns between 25,000 and 50,000 people had a SWAT team in 1983. By 2005, the figure was up to 80%.

The number of raids conducted by SWAT-like police units has grown accordingly. In the 1970s, there were just a few hundred a year; by the early 1980s, there were some 3,000 a year. In 2005 (the last year for which Dr. Kraska collected data), there were approximately 50,000 raids. Some federal agencies also now have their own SWAT teams, including NASA and the Department of the Interior.
A Closer Look at Police-Involved Shootings in Florida
For years, violent crime has been on a steady decline in Florida – down 43 percent since 1993 – and around the nation. Yet the number of fatal police involved-shootings or justifiable homicides, as classified by law enforcement, has been on the rise in the Sunshine State. In 1999, 14 cases were reported, and in 2013, 58 cases were identified, a 314 percent increase.
Quite a small number for such a populated state, but here's the catch:
Lorie Fridell, professor of criminology at the University of South Florida, said it is interesting how the officer-involved shootings in Florida are going up. However, she says, there’s no way to know if this – isolated or part of a nationwide trend – as there’s no reliable nationwide data.
It may be difficult to meet your challenge if national data is not collected.
 

CitizenKain

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This is EXACTLY the kind of shit that is pissing me off.

You have no clue what the historical statistics are on officer involved shootings, so how could you even remotely state " obviously has gotten way out of control "

Go find me some hard evidence that police are out of control, if you can, I will never post on P&N ever again.

and EDIT: Radley Balko does not count as a good source

Here you go: http://www.cato.org/raidmap
 

piasabird

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I live across the Mississippi river from St Louis, MO near where this happened. No way am I going to jump to conclusions until after the investigation by the FBI. In St Louis, MO, in cases like these, it is common that you might see the police asking the FBI to investigate, so it will be an outside investigation that the public will respect.
 

WHAMPOM

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Cops are just as honest as the public norm but have more opportunity, little fear of getting caught and much less chance of being convicted in court.
In every study where one group of people is given power over another, they abuse it.
Don't believe me? Google it yourself.
 
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