Missouri Police Officer guns down unarmed 18 year old

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Blanky

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I was making fun of Londo and his continuous butthurt comments. Do look at this a team effort? No but it sure hasn't stopped posters from interrupting the conversation and telling everyone who doesn't agree with them to get over it (kind of like you are doing). So if you have already accepted the outcome and don't question the process then why are you bothering to respond to those that still have questions?

So feel free to ignore mine and others posts who still are looking at the facts, we won't be persuaded by mob mentality (that would be you and your ilk), we will look at the facts and form our own opinion.




Btw, if you are implying that I and others that are still looking at the data are some kool aide drinking, race baiting, hype believing deniers, well tell yourself what ever you want, characterize us however you want, your mind will never change but know that your opinion means zero to me
You have had three months and dozens upon dozens of posts in this thread to figure this out, but only a week ago (!) did you even realize that Brown had robbed the store. This is why you aren't being taken seriously.
 

Vic

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Unfortunately, despite no indictment, Wilson's life as he knows it is over. He will always be guilty in the minds of his opponents. I imagine he's going to have to uproot his family, move, and change his name.. Or the death threats will never end. I hope I'm wrong.
Seriously, his life is not over. He'll get paid leave and a severance package while this blows over, and then he'll get rehired by another department.
 

TheVrolok

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Seriously, his life is not over. He'll get paid leave and a severance package while this blows over, and then he'll get rehired by another department.
I doubt he'll be working in law enforcement ever again, at least not on a patrol type job. And after all the rioting and calls for justice you honestly think people will just let him be? Wonder how many death threats he's getting.
 

Druidx

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Car just ran over a women in Minneapolis during a Ferguson related protest. I guess people didn't learn their lesson about how jaywalking is dangerous, since protesters claim MB was shot for jaywalking. Sorry no link, I'm on my phone.
 

LegendKiller

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justice really has failed.

Yeah, it failed by not preventing this circus in the first place. There wasn't ever a shred of evidence that agreed with the "eyewitness" accounts.

Justice would be that one of these days, one of the people wrongfully tried in public, is able to win a billion dollar lawsuit against NBC/CNN/XXXXX over the bullshit they peddle as news.

All of these little fucking ignorant kids running around protesting. Protesting what, exactly? Have they even read a single shred of evidence, seen the scene layout, noticed that shell casings and blood are *BEHIND* Brown, indicating Brown advanced 20'+ on Wilson within seconds? Fuck no, they go on with their ignorant asses and the fucking media lets them get away with it.

How about you take McSpadden and *FORCE* her to answer how the fuck shell casings magically appeared *BEHIND* her son? How the fuck were his hands up in surrender when he was advancing. How the fuck was he shot in the back when no shots entered the back.

Then there's her husband, the "burn this bitch down". Justice would be arresting him for inciting a riot.
 

Svnla

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Yes it has.

Since the store owner is a minority, I am sure DoJ/Holder will investigate possible "civil right" violation upon him from the hysteric looting mob. Obama will make a speech about "if I was a small shop/small business owner". Anytime now, anytime, right...right? <eyes rolling upward>
 
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TechBoyJK

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I doubt he'll be working in law enforcement ever again, at least not on a patrol type job. And after all the rioting and calls for justice you honestly think people will just let him be? Wonder how many death threats he's getting.

Shit.. I was thinking pd's would want to hire him since he actually did his job and didn't buckle under pressure to say sorry about defending himself.
 

Riparian

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Car just ran over a women in Minneapolis during a Ferguson related protest. I guess people didn't learn their lesson about how jaywalking is dangerous, since protesters claim MB was shot for jaywalking. Sorry no link, I'm on my phone.
The driver of that car was entirely at fault. He was behind another car that was stopped due to all of the protesters blocking the street. Other cars were slowly going around the left of the stopped car. The idiot driver who hit the protesters decided he wasn't going to wait any longer, went to the right of the stopped car, which put him right in the middle of the crowd. He then tried to nudge his way through the crowd with his car which caused a woman to nearly have her leg ran over. The crowd pulled the woman aside and then attacked the car at which point, the car decided to push harder through the crowd, knocking over more people. He eventually pulled to the side of the road down the street and is being questioned by the police. Driver needs to charged with assault with a deadly weapon. Entirely let his impatience get the better of him since there was a path for the cars to get through. The videos are linked in the OT Brown riots thread.
 

ivwshane

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The forensic evidence backs one the stories and not the other.

No throat trauma or shots to the back noted in three different autopsies.

Ah, so a lack of evidence means the opposite is true? I don't think I need to tell why your logic is flawed. No wonder you always talk about yourself, you aren't smart enough to discuss anything else
 

Fern

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I don't know if this "perspective" has been offered before, but:

If the DA had simply followed the "normal" procedure and decided to not prosecute Wilson (and not bother with the Grand Jury), the riots that would have followed would have made the actual riots seem tame by comparison. So instead, the DA decided on "full transparency," where all of the information he had available would be presented to the Grand Jury (and subsequently made available to the public). And, of course, the Grand Jury came to the same conclusion that the DA did: don't indict.

Yes, this was a highly unusual process, but can anyone blame the DA for trying to defuse the situation, when he knew that not prosecuting Wilson was the right decision?

That's pretty much exactly what happened.

There's nothing to "blame" the DA for. He, and the community, were put into a no-win situation by the media and 'race industry' types like the Rev Al.

Fern
 

werepossum

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Since the store owner is a minority, I am sure DoJ/Holder will investigate possible "civil right" violation upon him from the hysteric looting mob. Obama will make a speech about "if I was a small shop/small business owner". Anytime now, anytime, right...right? <eyes rolling upward>
lol

If I had a convenience store, it would look like this convenience store . . .
 

Fern

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Because prosecutors prosecute their case by presenting their side to the GJ. They don't just dump everything in the lap of citizens and say "you're on your own".

No, because prosecutors are bound by law and ethics to NOT prosecute unless they are convinced the 'accused' is both guilty and a conviction is certain.

It's becoming obvious in this case the prosecutor did not believe be could and/or should get a conviction.

Fern
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Ah, so a lack of evidence means the opposite is true? I don't think I need to tell why your logic is flawed. No wonder you always talk about yourself, you aren't smart enough to discuss anything else



A claim that someone was shot in the back is made. An autopsy is performed noting that there are no wounds to the back caused by bullets.

There is a lack of evidence because there are no shots. Does that make the claim true or false?
 

LegendKiller

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A claim that someone was shot in the back is made. An autopsy is performed noting that there are no wounds to the back caused by bullets.

There is a lack of evidence because there are no shots. Does that make the claim true or false?

Keep in mind, he's super smart, so he'll just call you an idiot and not answer the question.
 

cabri

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The prosecutor should have compiled a report and declined to press charges if he felt that way.

He should not have been intimidated into using the GJ to appease the public, which didn't work anyway.

Given that there was already a perception of bias as regards to his background; anything comping out of that office would have been treated the same way as the GJ report.
 

Druidx

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How many people are unwilling to face the fact this wouldn't have been near as big of an issue if the cop was black or MB was white. Shows the true racism involved.
 

shortylickens

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lol

If I had a convenience store, it would look like this convenience store . . .

Obama would never support an arab or hispanic if it meant attacking blacks.
Shame the shopkeeper wasnt white. Then Obama could blame him for centuries of oppression.

Then he could apologize a week later and offer to buy everyone beers.
 

Fern

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No common citizen would be afforded the protection offered by the prosecution Darren Wilson was offered[/B]. In a country where we are all supposed to be equal under the eyes of the law, it leaves a very bad taste. It really is a very good read and explains why a number of reputable lawyers are displeased with the outcome of the case.

Regarding the bolded portion - that's really a shame. No, worse than "a shame" but I lack the appropriate term for it.

This case is very different from most 'murder' cases. There's not only the huge public outcry, but unlike other murder cases this is not a question of who did it, but rather does the killing qualify as a "murder"?

However, we do have a similar case: Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin.

What's the difference in these cases? In the GZ case we had a prosecutor pandering to the crowd who was accused by other respected legal scholars for unethical and illegal conduct in prosecuting this case. She went ahead and indicted when she shouldn't have (remember that the police and other prosecutor reached a determination not to indict/charge) . However unappealing GZ may be as a person, although innocent his life was ruined. He was bankrupted, lost his house, his job and his wife etc. That's not justice; that's punishment. And the man was found was found innocent. An innocent man should not be punished.

In Wilson's case this unjust punishment was avoided. I think the prosecutor here did a very clever and wise thing. I think this should serve as an example for other similar cases where there's a huge public outcry but prosecutors have no ethical or legal basis to proceed to trial.

I don't know who would pay Wilson's million $ legal fee, but I hope if it would have been the city of Ferguson that wasn't the reason the prosecutor took this path. If it were, there truly is a different 'justice' for govt employees versus the rest of us.

Fern
 
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