MLB The Show 2014

[cmdrdredd]

Man...I have to rant a bit here.

How is it that the CPU can run down a laser beam line drive to the gap and make a diving catch to get the out when in real life that would never happen? Nobody is that fast. It seems to also happen in the infield. Also does anyone seem to get a lot of strong fly balls out to the fence and the CPU makes a over the head basket catch at the warning track every time? I can see if the player was in position and got the jump on it, but if you aren't looking for the ball, how can you catch it? It just drops right in. Further, when you have a guy like Miguel Cabrera or Giancarlo Stanton up to bat and they get a meatball right over home plate and you get your timing perfect and the after hit stats say you got all of it right in the wheel house yet it ends up a ground ball right to short. That's as unrealistic as it gets right there. They would have at the very least gotten a very solid liner out past the infield. If it was your pitcher or a guy who isn't rested or just came off injury I could see, but these guys are star players with huge power and contact numbers.

Does anyone else find some things about the CPU's play to be unrealistic in order to make the game feel more difficult and avoid you putting up record numbers? I've adjusted the sliders down for the CPU as a test and they still made some unrealistic plays and with my sliders up I still get the blooper hits that make no sense. 4 seem fast ball down the center, perfect contact and right in the middle of the zone, yet nothing but a cheap pop up or grounder that is so weak a t-baller could probably get the out.

 

[sze5003]

Yea my cpu sliders are all the way down, well a few of them. A lot of times I get ground balls right as I'm about to swing. What I don't like is how the cpu can run straight for first base and makes it but my guys are so slow when it comes to getting to a base.

I've also noticed glitches online when it comes to batting, I'll strike out because I'm not attent but right as I'm about to slam a perfect pitch it stutters right as I go to hit. This has happened quite a lot and I lose because of it. I also don't even aim with the left stick I just use zone since I can't do timing online and press the buttons.

But some of the things like you hit a grounder and it goes directly to the baseman or an average fly ball with good speed but the cpu is there and ready in no time.

I also feel like they should patch the resolution somehow. Stuff on the bottom of my screen is cut off but fine in every other game and I have not found out if there are any display options in this game.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Nothing is cut off for me, check your TV settings and make sure you aren't using any zoom or things like that.

Also this just happened to me and it has happened at least 20 times. I'm pitching a perfect game so far, 7 strikeouts. This isn't just any pitcher, it's Clayton Kershaw. It's the bottom of the 7th inning and I throw a slider right to the inside corner and they get hold of it and hit off the outfield wall and get a triple. There goes my perfect game. Even when I try cheating by putting a pitcher at 99 stats across the board this happens eventually. It's always when I throw a pitch that is borderline unhittable. What happens with the next two batters? I strike out one and get a grounder off the other. Huh...so only one guy can hit the ball...just so I don't get a perfect game. That's some major bs.

 

[sze5003]

Yea it has some weird mechanics. I'm pretty sure I'm not using zoom on my tv. It's set as standard and 16:9 or 16:10. Also my team on rtts is horrible too. I'm hoping I can do better soon so I'll move up.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Yea it has some weird mechanics. I'm pretty sure I'm not using zoom on my tv. It's set as standard and 16:9 or 16:10. Also my team on rtts is horrible too. I'm hoping I can do better soon so I'll move up.

I think there's a setting in the PS4 for display area. Maybe see if that helps. You want the white corners to line up with the furthest reaches of your screen.

 

[Majcric]

Nothing is cut off for me, check your TV settings and make sure you aren't using any zoom or things like that.

Also this just happened to me and it has happened at least 20 times. I'm pitching a perfect game so far, 7 strikeouts. This isn't just any pitcher, it's Clayton Kershaw. It's the bottom of the 7th inning and I throw a slider right to the inside corner and they get hold of it and hit off the outfield wall and get a triple. There goes my perfect game. Even when I try cheating by putting a pitcher at 99 stats across the board this happens eventually. It's always when I throw a pitch that is borderline unhittable. What happens with the next two batters? I strike out one and get a grounder off the other. Huh...so only one guy can hit the ball...just so I don't get a perfect game. That's some major bs.

Was Clayton your starting pitcher? I have found it's almost mandatory to change pitchers after 5 or 6 innings or real life opponents and CPU A.I both will start to make you pay. But I'm not that good.

I use Clayton a lot.

 

[Bman123]

You have to keep your pitch count down, once you get over 100 your done. You get tired and you'll pay for it

 

[tdawg]

Man...I have to rant a bit here.

How is it that the CPU can run down a laser beam line drive to the gap and make a diving catch to get the out when in real life that would never happen? Nobody is that fast. It seems to also happen in the infield. Also does anyone seem to get a lot of strong fly balls out to the fence and the CPU makes a over the head basket catch at the warning track every time? I can see if the player was in position and got the jump on it, but if you aren't looking for the ball, how can you catch it? It just drops right in. Further, when you have a guy like Miguel Cabrera or Giancarlo Stanton up to bat and they get a meatball right over home plate and you get your timing perfect and the after hit stats say you got all of it right in the wheel house yet it ends up a ground ball right to short. That's as unrealistic as it gets right there. They would have at the very least gotten a very solid liner out past the infield. If it was your pitcher or a guy who isn't rested or just came off injury I could see, but these guys are star players with huge power and contact numbers.

Does anyone else find some things about the CPU's play to be unrealistic in order to make the game feel more difficult and avoid you putting up record numbers? I've adjusted the sliders down for the CPU as a test and they still made some unrealistic plays and with my sliders up I still get the blooper hits that make no sense. 4 seem fast ball down the center, perfect contact and right in the middle of the zone, yet nothing but a cheap pop up or grounder that is so weak a t-baller could probably get the out.

Turn down CPU reaction time and speed for fielders. Should help that issue a bit.

Hitting isn't a guaranteed game, as you're surely aware. Even the best get that perfect pitch and just slightly miss the vertical plane. Sure it hit the sweet spot of the bat, but maybe the upper or lower half of that sweet spot to induce a long fly ball or strong grounder instead of a home run or stinging line drive.

 

[Sulaco]

Man...I have to rant a bit here.

How is it that the CPU can run down a laser beam line drive to the gap and make a diving catch to get the out when in real life that would never happen? Nobody is that fast. It seems to also happen in the infield. Also does anyone seem to get a lot of strong fly balls out to the fence and the CPU makes a over the head basket catch at the warning track every time? I can see if the player was in position and got the jump on it, but if you aren't looking for the ball, how can you catch it? It just drops right in. Further, when you have a guy like Miguel Cabrera or Giancarlo Stanton up to bat and they get a meatball right over home plate and you get your timing perfect and the after hit stats say you got all of it right in the wheel house yet it ends up a ground ball right to short. That's as unrealistic as it gets right there. They would have at the very least gotten a very solid liner out past the infield. If it was your pitcher or a guy who isn't rested or just came off injury I could see, but these guys are star players with huge power and contact numbers.

Does anyone else find some things about the CPU's play to be unrealistic in order to make the game feel more difficult and avoid you putting up record numbers? I've adjusted the sliders down for the CPU as a test and they still made some unrealistic plays and with my sliders up I still get the blooper hits that make no sense. 4 seem fast ball down the center, perfect contact and right in the middle of the zone, yet nothing but a cheap pop up or grounder that is so weak a t-baller could probably get the out.

What slider set are you using?

 

[Bman123]

You shouldn't have to change the sliders at all. Mine are at default and I have no problem paying the game. I don't see how making it easy can make it fun at all

 

[Sulaco]

You shouldn't have to change the sliders at all. Mine are at default and I have no problem paying the game. I don't see how making it easy can make it fun at all

Who said anything about making it easy?

Slider changes have to more to do with balancing the AI deficiencies, however slight, and making the end product more realistic.

Many of the sliders changes actually make the game more challenging, compensating for occasional AI lapses and other bugs/issues.

 

[sze5003]

Yea I have my hit and contact all the way to the right. The cpu contact and power all the way to the left. Everything else is default.

 

[cmdrdredd]

You shouldn't have to change the sliders at all. Mine are at default and I have no problem paying the game. I don't see how making it easy can make it fun at all

People who really know baseball and know all the stats and are super hardcore adjust the sliders all the time. They are making the game as realistic as possible. Go to operation sports and see. There are slider options to make the game as close to replicating a real mlb experience as possible, from people who devote their life to the game.

I am not that type. I like baseball but the game has to be playable and fun. If it is too realistic it just isn't fun since the animations and such can never give you the same experience as actually playing. Makes the game play awkwardly IMO at times.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Turn down CPU reaction time and speed for fielders. Should help that issue a bit.

Hitting isn't a guaranteed game, as you're surely aware. Even the best get that perfect pitch and just slightly miss the vertical plane. Sure it hit the sweet spot of the bat, but maybe the upper or lower half of that sweet spot to induce a long fly ball or strong grounder instead of a home run or stinging line drive.

The game never tells you that. All you have is a zone indicator and it was down the middle with good timing and solid contact. It happens often enough not to be a fluke. If it wasn't good contact it should say so but it doesn't.

As for sliders guys even with fielding and reaction way down for the CPU it still happened.

Was Clayton your starting pitcher? I have found it's almost mandatory to change pitchers after 5 or 6 innings or real life opponents and CPU A.I both will start to make you pay. But I'm not that good.

I use Clayton a lot.

Yeah but I was looking for a perfect game so I left him in, also was under 100 pitches in the game. Actually I have gone over 100 and strike out the side before.


All of this also happened in the past games for me as well. It isn't new.

 

[sze5003]

The game could use a good tutorial. Coming from someone that has played a bit of baseball when I was younger, video baseball is more fun but harder. I don't know if it's the base running or the swing controls, they get me all the time. I would love to use pure analog for hits I just don't know how with the analog stick. I'll get hits randomly.

 

[Bman123]

Turn down CPU reaction time and speed for fielders. Should help that issue a bit.

Hitting isn't a guaranteed game, as you're surely aware. Even the best get that perfect pitch and just slightly miss the vertical plane. Sure it hit the sweet spot of the bat, but maybe the upper or lower half of that sweet spot to induce a long fly ball or strong grounder instead of a home run or stinging line drive.

Who said anything about making it easy?

Slider changes have to more to do with balancing the AI deficiencies, however slight, and making the end product more realistic.

Many of the sliders changes actually make the game more challenging, compensating for occasional AI lapses and other bugs/issues.

Turn down CPU reaction time and speed for fielders looks like that's making the game easier. I'm not trying to argue with anyone just pointing out what I saw. I grew up playing baseball and played til I injured my back and had to get surgery so I do love the sport and I played for over 10 years. I don't think the game at default is that bad. In the end its just a video game and bullshit happens in any game you play. It just happens more often in the sports titles.

I have no problem with the slider adjustments and if someone needs to change it to enjoy the game they bought then so be it. I don't have any trouble with the game at all so I left mine alone.

 

[tdawg]

Turn down CPU reaction time and speed for fielders looks like that's making the game easier. I'm not trying to argue with anyone just pointing out what I saw. I grew up playing baseball and played til I injured my back and had to get surgery so I do love the sport and I played for over 10 years. I don't think the game at default is that bad. In the end its just a video game and bullshit happens in any game you play. It just happens more often in the sports titles.

I have no problem with the slider adjustments and if someone needs to change it to enjoy the game they bought then so be it. I don't have any trouble with the game at all so I left mine alone.

Check out sliders on Operation Sports. Those guys have tuned sliders for pretty much every difficulty level that create a realistic experience. The game sliders aren't perfect out of the box, as stat's show time and time again with these hardcore baseball guys on OS.

 

[sze5003]

Check out sliders on Operation Sports. Those guys have tuned sliders for pretty much every difficulty level that create a realistic experience. The game sliders aren't perfect out of the box, as stat's show time and time again with these hardcore baseball guys on OS.

I did not know about that. Going to browse it and see if I can set it up for beginner settings or something like the dynamic setting.

 

[Bman123]

I use the dynamic setting when I play rtts with my starting pitcher, it says I'm on veteran difficulty now. I did how ever pre order the game from game stop and that gave me 30,000 stubs that I used to buy 30,000 training points which helped a lot. I'm only 10 games in but its a blast

 

[sze5003]

I use the dynamic setting when I play rtts with my starting pitcher, it says I'm on veteran difficulty now. I did how ever pre order the game from game stop and that gave me 30,000 stubs that I used to buy 30,000 training points which helped a lot. I'm only 10 games in but its a blast

I'm in the double A league now. It seems like it takes a while to get through progress in rtts. I usually play as many games as I can to save up training points then use them all at once making sure to upgrade each and every skill until I have about 200 pts left. I did set the difficulty to dynamic earlier.

 

[Sulaco]

Turn down CPU reaction time and speed for fielders looks like that's making the game easier. I'm not trying to argue with anyone just pointing out what I saw. I grew up playing baseball and played til I injured my back and had to get surgery so I do love the sport and I played for over 10 years. I don't think the game at default is that bad. In the end its just a video game and bullshit happens in any game you play. It just happens more often in the sports titles.

I have no problem with the slider adjustments and if someone needs to change it to enjoy the game they bought then so be it. I don't have any trouble with the game at all so I left mine alone.

Slider adjustments are not about ease or difficulty, they are about realism. Or more accurately, getting the most realistic stats and outcomes possible. Whether that's in my favor, or not. This is a simulation of Major League Baseball, so most fans want the outcomes and play as close as possible.

I've always said, give me realism for my team/players. If that means we're 3rd best in the division, so be it. I don't want the CPU to let me win 120 games if I don't have the players to do so.
On the flip side, if no matter what I'm losing 95 a season, that's just as unrealistic.

The trick is finding that perfect middle ground where the players' control affects just enough, but doesn't overpower the limitations of your roster.
In other words, just because you're a really good The Show player, you shouldn't be winning 3 straight World Series as the Marlins.

 

[Homerboy]

It's worth it IMHO. In fact, this game is worth buying a PS4 for... I haven't played ANY sports game this good in a decade or more.

Hmmm... $400 for a console just to play a game though? Maybe I can find a used PS4...

 

[sze5003]

Hmmm... $400 for a console just to play a game though? Maybe I can find a used PS4...

Well there may be other games to play on ps4 if you want. Watchdogs comes out in a week, AC is alright, there are a bunch of indie games I thought were cool on psn. I've had a decent experience with bf4 online on the system as well.

Knack is pretty fun I've heard. Nba 2k14 is another great looking game. If you have a ps3 get it for that system instead. But visually it looks it's best on ps4.

 

[Bman123]

Hmmm... $400 for a console just to play a game though? Maybe I can find a used PS4...

My local craigslist has them all day long for $350 with a game and extra controller most of the time.

 

[Majcric]

Hmmm... $400 for a console just to play a game though? Maybe I can find a used PS4...

You're getting a very good game. A system seller Imo. And you'll have future games to look forward to as I imagine the PS3 will fizzlle out after a couple years(new Releases)

On the other hand, the ps3 is cheap and they're a lot of cheap games out for the system already.

Your choice really but I think when future Next gen games start popping up an old system could leave a bitter taste to the mouth. BTW, I expect "The "show to be really outstanding next year on the PS4

Used? probably not much more than 50-75 bucks off MRSP. Not enough IMO to chance over a new in box system. I'd much rather have new with a peace mind that if something turned out I didn't like it, it could be returned to the store.