[MMO] World of Tanks

[Skott]

Buying gold is a personal decision. I paid the $100 back at beginning and not sorry for it. The $100 deal gives you the best price, I had the money, I planned to play the game a long time, and I also felt that considering I had played the game way back in beta I was giving back to the company for letting me participate. However, $100 is a lot of money for many people right now with the economy so bad. So I'm not going to push anyone towards it. I would say only pay the $100 deal if you have it and wont terribly miss it and plan to play the game a long time.

There are three main money maker gold tanks people tend to buy. KV-5, Lowe, and Type 59. Each has it's own play style. If you like lay back and snipe get the Lowe. If you like something that goes forward and takes a lot of damage get the KV-5(I confess i never palyed one but thats how I been seing it played). If you like something fast and can shoot and scoot (flanking) get the Type 59. They all have their pros and cons. They all have weaknesses. Let me say it again. They all have their weak spots. None of them are invincible.

Last week or so I been playing a variety of tanks in my garage but mostly the E-75, Type 59, and Lowe. I been pushing on the E-75 to get that 12.5 cm gun. However last two days I reinstalled M2TW and installed a new mod for it so been playing that instead. I need to get back into my E-75 today and work on it.

 

[stag3]

yea the 100 was well worth it for me for the gold. i was able to convert free xp to fully upgrade my is-4 and object 704 right away. i also bought a few slots, and have ran premium for a few months now, i still have a ton of gold left. i'm still debating on buying a type 59

 

[Skott]

Finally got the 12.8cm gun on my E-75. Definitely a step up from the 88mm. I can actually punch Tier 9 & 10 tanks quite hard now. Using a shell load out of 20ap and 16he til I can figure out how often I need those HE shells. With the 10.5cm I needed them quite a bit against Tier 9 & 10 heavies. This 12.8cm gun makes some serious damage. Now I just need to grind for the last engine and then onto the E-100. Hopefully the grind will be faster with the bigger gun.

 

[Elcs]

Finally got the 12.8cm gun on my E-75. Definitely a step up from the 88mm. I can actually punch Tier 9 & 10 tanks quite hard now. Using a shell load out of 20ap and 16he til I can figure out how often I need those HE shells. With the 88mm I needed them quite a bit against Tier 9 & 10 heavies. This 12.8cm gun makes some serious damage. Now I just need to grind for the last engine and then onto the E-100. Hopefully the grind will be faster with the bigger gun.

You were using the 8.8cm L/71 on the E-75 until you got the 12.8cm?

Why on Earth were you not using the second 10.5cm (10.5 long) from the King Tiger? 6+ rounds per minute with 225mm penetration and 320 damage compared to ~10 rounds per minute with ~203mm penetration and 220 damage.

 

[Skott]

You were using the 8.8cm L/71 on the E-75 until you got the 12.8cm?

Why on Earth were you not using the second 10.5cm (10.5 long) from the King Tiger? 6+ rounds per minute with 225mm penetration and 320 damage compared to ~10 rounds per minute with ~203mm penetration and 220 damage.

LOL. I was. I miss typed that. I'm so used to saying 88 when it comes to German tanks. I'll fix it. The difference is still large though. I can punch through an IS7 frontal armor up closer and put a serious hurting on it. I can do some serious damage to a Maus as well up close. At long distance I have to still use HE shots on them but the damage is still pretty good. Really liking the tank now.

 

[nbowman]

I really hope that the T34 update comes soon and separate from the T30. I decided over the weekend that I'm not going to worry about grinding it anymore, I'll just do the daily doubles and leave it at that. Grinding I was just killing my enjoyment of the game. Mainly working on the Tiger now.

I really think even as premium the T34 will be a terrible tank. I doubt it will get the 120mm, and without it, it's a horrible tank.

According to Overlord(check the comments), the T34 as a premium will retain the 120, which likely means an ROF nerf. Wish granted on the T34 and T30 changes happening at different times, currently the T34 changes are slated for 2011 and the T30 for Q1 2012. Now whether or not all of that gets pushed back or not, only wargaming knows.

As far as the T34 being a horrible tank, that wasn't my experience with it once it is maxxed out. Once I got the 120 (and yes, that is a long, stupid, painful grind - thank you total lack of hull armor and no 225 pen gun to carry over unlike the other T8/9 heavies) it is entirely competitive (though a very different playstyle) with the other T9 tanks.
Compare my T34 to my IS-4 stats:
Win/Loss/Survive Hit ratio:AvgExp:AvgDamage
T34: 61/36/39 84:843:2048
IS4: 57/40/45 86:738:1945

maybe its just that the T34 suits my playstyle better, but I do tend to do better with it.

 

[Merad]

Oh, my stats are good in the T34. I think a 58% win rate, 88% hit rate, about 750 xp per battle. I think most decent players fall back into a very conservative playstyle with it (you get torn to pieces otherwise) to try and compensate for its weaknesses. The problem is that the tank is totally outclassed against any other tier 9 and is just no fun to play.

Perfect example: Last night I was playing it in the map with the road on one side and railroad on the other (forget the name). I was holding the road with a couple of other tier 8-10s and at the opposite end were 2 IS-4s and 2 E-75s the we kept trading fire with. I took I think 4 shots but only got 1 pen, when I caught one of them with their side turned. Then their team runs a scout down the side of the road and apparently lit me up. Bam, bam, bam dead. All of them hit me, all of them penetrated my hull with long range shots. That's just the way it is in the T34. Any thing you meet can penetrate your hull from any range.

Edit: To make the point more clear, our guys had put probably 25 shots total towards the other enemies, and they were all still above 75% health because they were getting bounces. They spotted me, and I was dead in 5 seconds.

 

[Nintendesert]

I like to judge tanks and their effectiveness by how afraid I am to face them. This is composed of simply how dangerous and how hard it is to kill them. I've never been afraid of any of the American heavies. Hell, I don't even know sometimes which of those 30somethings is which. They all are killed the same way and in a very easy manner.

Now I look at the E75 and I fear that tank, Tiger II, none. But that E75 is very tough. That and the Ferdinand. I hate facing those two and fear them a lot.

I kinda feel sorry for players of those big American heavies, ever since that T1 HT you guys just are fodder though the T29 is good for its tier.

 

[Merad]

Fully upgraded, the T29 and T32 are both superb tanks. Having played all of the tier 7 heavies the T29 easily wins my vote as the best. At Tier 8 I've only played the IS-3 and T32. The T32 is easily the equal of the IS-3, overall though I feel like it has a slight edge. The KT is generally regarded as the best Tier 8 overall, but there are many situations where the T 32 can tear it a new one.

After that though, it nosedives. T34 and T30 both have weaker hulls than the T32, plus a higher profile that makes them easier to hit. Hands down the T34 and T30 are the weakest in their tier.

 

[Possessed Freak]

The T29 is the most feared tier 7 heavy I face, but after the 29 I believe the American heavy line BLOWS.

 

[stag3]

same, the e75 is a bitch to take out with my is-4. no other tier 9 makes me think about them. i'm still not to sure where to hit them when they're hull down as the lower hull sometimes still bounces ugh...

 

[Liet]

Lately I've been absolutely devastating enemy heavy commander cupolas. You can get some serious damage hitting one of those and really screw up his crew at the same time. Give it a shot sometime (har har )

I'm about halfway through my grind to the E-75's 128mm, but don't regret selling my Tiger II as the E-75 is just plain better. That frontal hull armor is just spectacular.

 

[Possessed Freak]

I was on Dorf yesterday and took a 704 down to 9% in my tiger P. The 704 missed me once and glanced once on my angled front (angled to him). We both knew whoever loaded first next was going to destroy the other... I was halfway to reloading when he dusted me. I had no room to maneuver and the game was lost regardless... but it would have been epic if I killed a 704 with a lowly 88.

 

[Elcs]

but don't regret selling my Tiger II as the E-75 is just plain better. That frontal hull armor is just spectacular.

I'm loving my KT but the E-75 is just that much better? I'm afraid that I'd lose the KT's manueverability which I find amazing.

I know that front armour is crazy and even the lower hull bounces when you know it shouldn't.

 

[Skott]

Lately I've been absolutely devastating enemy heavy commander cupolas. You can get some serious damage hitting one of those and really screw up his crew at the same time. Give it a shot sometime (har har )

I'm about halfway through my grind to the E-75's 128mm, but don't regret selling my Tiger II as the E-75 is just plain better. That frontal hull armor is just spectacular.

I kept my Tiger 2. I still enjoy it from time to time although the E-75 is a bigger and better version of the Tiger 2. Once you get that 12.8cm gun your performance will greatly increase. Working towards final engine now on mine. I'm hoping it will help with speed. Tank is so slow at times especially going up an incline.

 

[Skott]

I'm loving my KT but the E-75 is just that much better? I'm afraid that I'd lose the KT's manueverability which I find amazing.

I know that front armour is crazy and even the lower hull bounces when you know it shouldn't.

Definitely better once you get the 12.8cm gun. With the 10.5cm gun its just a little better than the KT. Its like a KT with more HPs. Then you get the 12.8cm gun and your a KT with more HPs and a nastier gun! I get ammo racked and gun damaged a fair amount so expect that. The E-75 also requires you get spall-liner because arty splash is nasty without it and as a E-75 you will be a main target for arty and every other tank on the battlefield. I'm running Vents, Gun rammer, and Spall-liner.

 

[fortega]

I hate to whine but I've been playing WoT since beta (had several Tier 10's) but arty is really getting to me. I have a E-100 that's getting really hammered by these enormous arties. I find myself hiding from arty all the time....

We really need an arty limit of 2 per match. They do have their place but having 4 T92's in one match is a little much.

 

[Elcs]

I hate to whine but I've been playing WoT since beta (had several Tier 10's) but arty is really getting to me. I have a E-100 that's getting really hammered by these enormous arties. I find myself hiding from arty all the time....

We really need an arty limit of 2 per match. They do have their place but having 4 T92's in one match is a little much.

Limit arty to 2 per side you'd have to limit Platoons to 2 players.

Can't find an easy solution but I agree that 2 SPG's is an ideal number.

 

[Skott]

Can't find an easy solution but I agree that 2 SPG's is an ideal number.

I agree whole heartedly!

 

[stag3]

I was on Dorf yesterday and took a 704 down to 9% in my tiger P. The 704 missed me once and glanced once on my angled front (angled to him). We both knew whoever loaded first next was going to destroy the other... I was halfway to reloading when he dusted me. I had no room to maneuver and the game was lost regardless... but it would have been epic if I killed a 704 with a lowly 88.

did you at least have a rammer? hahaha

 

[Possessed Freak]

did you at least have a rammer? hahaha

Actually, I think both the tiger P and my tiger ii are decked out with optics, binocs, and vents. Being sniper tanks, I wanted them to have the best chance to... snipe. Dunno if the rammer was going to get it done, but it would have been close!

 

[Possessed Freak]

Limit arty to 2 per side you'd have to limit Platoons to 2 players.

Can't find an easy solution but I agree that 2 SPG's is an ideal number.

Platoons always break the matchmaking rules anyway. What would be very annoying is for a three tier 8 arty platoon coming up to a 1 tier 8 two lower tier arty platoon. Hard limit of 2/3 means that nobody else is bringing in arty but the three 8's have a VAST advantage. My answer is, hard limit of 3 per side. Only one platoon member may be arty.

I love the platoons of 3 tier 4/5 lights. Then inevitably that side gets one or two more lights and boom half the damn team are one shot wonders. All to kill some arty.

 

[stag3]

yea i've seen a platoon of t50-2's just demolish the other teams arty, you can stop 1 but if there's 3, it's impossible to defend your arty

 

[Merad]

Limit arty to 2 per side you'd have to limit Platoons to 2 players.

Can't find an easy solution but I agree that 2 SPG's is an ideal number.

Or simply don't let the platoon into the queue with more than 2 SPGs.

 

[Nintendesert]

Definitely better once you get the 12.8cm gun. With the 10.5cm gun its just a little better than the KT. Its like a KT with more HPs. Then you get the 12.8cm gun and your a KT with more HPs and a nastier gun! I get ammo racked and gun damaged a fair amount so expect that. The E-75 also requires you get spall-liner because arty splash is nasty without it and as a E-75 you will be a main target for arty and every other tank on the battlefield. I'm running Vents, Gun rammer, and Spall-liner.

Why not a wet ammo rack instead of the vents? I replaced my vents with wet ammo rack on my Type 59.

Vents are that iffy if they work item and by how much, and with getting racked so much, wouldn't the WAR do you more good?