[MMO] World of Tanks

[PowerYoga]

Don't believe arty accuracy with tinkered with, just money making and HE splash damages. So it's most likely just a bad day. I have those with the BL-10 as well.

 

[stag3]

yea my BL-10 seems to bounce a lot now

 

[Skott]

I haven't played yet today but I'd say I'm seeing about the same amount of arty in the fights since patch. I been mostly playing in the M36 Slugger which is a Tier 6 TD. Some fights one per side, some fights two or three. Had at least one where there was five per side. As we go into the weekend and I get more time to play I should get a better idea whether the arty players are rage quitting or not. I hope they do but I doubt the real dedicated arty players will quit.

 

[FallenHero]

alright you jerks have gotten me interested...downloading now. Anything I need to know before I rage quit as a newbie?

 

[Binky]

alright you jerks have gotten me interested...downloading now. Anything I need to know before I rage quit as a newbie?

Hide, then blast somebody in the face, then hide again. Don't be the hero (aka dumbass) that runs out guns-a-blazin. Seeing the enemy is 90% of the battle. Bushes and trees are your friends - don't knock them down. Hide behind them. Learn how visibility works.

Low level fights are fun. Nobody cares much, since repairs are cheap. You tank will suck, but so do all the enemy tanks.

 

[FallenHero]

Hide, then blast somebody in the face, then hide again. Don't be the hero (aka dumbass) that runs out guns-a-blazin. Seeing the enemy is 90% of the battle. Bushes and trees are your friends - don't knock them down. Hide behind them. Learn how visibility works.

Low level fights are fun. Nobody cares much, since repairs are cheap. You tank will suck, but so do all the enemy tanks.

sweet. Thanks...learn the ropes slowly then I assume is the name of the game.

 

[stag3]

when does the T30 move to the TD line?
if i start the american line right now, is there anyway i can get to it before the patch hits?
or should i just wait post patch

what should i be working down right now to get it post patch

 

[Elcs]

when does the T30 move to the TD line?
if i start the american line right now, is there anyway i can get to it before the patch hits?
or should i just wait post patch

what should i be working down right now to get it post patch

The T34 and M103 should be in 7.3.

I'd expect the T30 and T110 to come in 7.3 at the earliest.

Someone said OTM is back for 7.0? Could I get a link?

 

[eLiu]

The T34 and M103 should be in 7.3.

I'd expect the T30 and T110 to come in 7.3 at the earliest.

Someone said OTM is back for 7.0? Could I get a link?

mhmm, sure can

Forums indicate OTM works fine on 7.0 (files here: https://github.com/bkon/WoT-OTM) so that's good.

That's the 'bleeding edge' of OTM 7.0 development. Hopefully they aren't committing any changes that don't work. I haven't been continually updating mine, which I downloaded the day 7.0 came out; it was working then. Though I had to re-configure my OTMData.xml file. The one I was using under 6.7 would cause the game to get stuck on mapload screen.

Also, if you were curious, the n0rdis mod works just fine in 7.0. And PoGS sort of works--VehicleMarkerManager.swf was responsible for displaying the icons in the correct orientation in game, but that file got modified heavily in 7.0 so you can't use the old one. But if you delete all the files in /flash (so only leaving the pictures), you'll get PoGS icons... just the ones for the opposing team will be mirrored.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

What's OTM?

 

[Maximilian]

What's OTM?

Over Target Markers, its a mod that makes the game a bit more intuitive. No need to hold down ALT to see stuff, and it shows the specific type of tank and the players name, massive difference between a KV heavy tank and an E100 heavy tank, OTM helps you see this. Its very customizable too.

 

[PowerYoga]

Just tried out OTM...

Now going to try out every other mod to see what else I've been missing. T_T Anybody got some good icon mods? I looked at contour but didn't like the design. Feels like it's trying to pack too much into very little real-estate. I mostly just need to know at a glance what's still alive/dead on the teams to play accordingly.

 

[novasatori]

the new lists are pretty good by default

i dunno if you know but it has 4 settings, all lists hidden, tank contour/tier + kills, name + contour/tier + kills, then finally name + contour/tier + TANK name + kills

the last one will tell you what all tanks are there, the setting is on the left side right above the left list

 

[Skott]

Does seem to be fewer arty at tier levels below 8 but seeing plenty of arty with my T8 & T9 tanks.

 

[eLiu]

Just tried out OTM...

Now going to try out every other mod to see what else I've been missing. T_T Anybody got some good icon mods? I looked at contour but didn't like the design. Feels like it's trying to pack too much into very little real-estate. I mostly just need to know at a glance what's still alive/dead on the teams to play accordingly.

It is a lot of info & it does feel cluttered, but to TBH I've found it to be super useful. I can quickly scan down the list when the game starts to see *roughly* which enemy tanks I'll have trouble penetrating/where (assuming they have best turret). Roughly b/c you need to know armor slope to be certain. And I can see which enemy tanks will be able to penetrate my armor/where (well, assuming they have best gun).

But if you just want clear cut representations of what each tank is, the Druid icon mod is pretty nice. I don't think it has been updated for 7.0 yet so you may have to deal with backwards images for the enemy team. I'm actually not sure what icon mods out there have been updated to 7.0/will be maintained in the future, which is kinda annoying b/c the default icons suck, bad.

 

[Elcs]

Okay, EU are apparently getting this tomorrow. Some more info would be nice...

Arty - Less of it at lower tiers, same at T8+, how's the damage looking re: HE changes?

Camo - What's the gold cost? Still 25/50g per tier? Is it *really* adaptive now?

Combat - Is there anything which has changed drastically that I could do with a heads up on, ie. paper tank in 6.7 is now very powerful in 7.0?

Just tried out OTM...

Now going to try out every other mod to see what else I've been missing. T_T Anybody got some good icon mods? I looked at contour but didn't like the design. Feels like it's trying to pack too much into very little real-estate. I mostly just need to know at a glance what's still alive/dead on the teams to play accordingly.

I find it invaluable when you come across tanks you don't often see, especially when you're an experienced driver going into a low tier match. Plus it tells me the name of the tank in the list mode... which those odd tank shapes that WoT uses doesn't tell me.

Need to know whether you can penetrate a tank from the front? Front hull and front turret armour (using best turret) are shown which gives you a decent idea.

Need to know if something can slice your tin can open? It gives you the highest penetration figure that tank can have.

Will that arty smush me into the dirt? Average damage with the heaviest gun is shown.

 

[stag3]

LOL @ everyone accusing me of hacking since they apparently don't know tracers are back in

 

[Skott]

Yesterday in one of my fights someone was complaining about arty in open battle chat. One person chimed in that you can now do counter battery since tracers are back in. Which I chimed in saying, 'Yeah, if you are good at it'. Both sides were laughing because what I said is true. To counter arty by watching tracer fire you have to be good at it first. I remember when it was in the beginning. Few people were actually good at it. Everyone knows this. It will be interesting to see how well the newer folks will adjust to it. Can't sit in one spot the whole game now. More shoot and scoot. At least the good players will do so.

Elcs,
I'd say I'm seeing about 25%-30% more battles with no arty involved at Tier 7 and under. A definite drop/increase but not gone altogether. T8 and above its about the same as before. I can't comment on camo. I don't use it. Too cheap so far to buy any for my tanks. LOL There are debates going on in game as to whether it helps to actually make seeing a tank harder or not. I've heard quite a few while playing. Although like one person said there is still a red dot above the tank so no change. To me it only helps/hurts if your eyesight is bad to begin with but that's with the individual and not the game itself.

As far as HE goes I cant say for certain because I haven't been using HE much so it is hard for me to judge. I can't remember hearing one bounce report. My bounces are coming from AP shells. They did change some armor on many of the tanks so that might have to do something with what people are complaining about. I can't rightly say.

 

[Skott]

BEWARE!

The whiners are out in full force tonight. They die fast and whine throughout the whole battle. I'd rather go watch tv. LOL

 

[stag3]

i hope one day in the distant future they fix MM.

i was just in a match where we had 2 tier 9, and the rest 8's and below.
the other side had 4 tier 9's, and the rest 8's below.
it wasn't due to platooning or anything, was odd.
everyone was just saying WTF MM. and we lost.

 

[FallenHero]

Uhg. Talk about a HUGE grind from tier 2 to tier 3. 4100 credits to get a tier 2...then 36000! WHOAAAAAAAAA. Not sure I can grind it out like that. Is there any good way to make money quicker? I know I am capable of better things, but these tanks are holding me back a bit. Tier 2 TD is just...bad. I get lobbed in with tier 3-4 and die after my first shot. I do enjoy the scout role, so that is my chosen route, but I like goofing around in a TD. Just that I am getting murdered in them at the moment.

 

[stag3]

nope, the hard part is the 3/4 grind, and the 6/7

 

[Maximilian]

Uhg. Talk about a HUGE grind from tier 2 to tier 3. 4100 credits to get a tier 2...then 36000! WHOAAAAAAAAA. Not sure I can grind it out like that. Is there any good way to make money quicker? I know I am capable of better things, but these tanks are holding me back a bit. Tier 2 TD is just...bad. I get lobbed in with tier 3-4 and die after my first shot. I do enjoy the scout role, so that is my chosen route, but I like goofing around in a TD. Just that I am getting murdered in them at the moment.

TD's are kind of crap in this game, vulnerable, prone to getting flanked, if you sit still in a bush as TD's usually do and arty spots you... boom.

Best way of making money is the lowe premium tank, type59 and KV5 premiums make decent money too i gather. To make money without using a premium tank tiers 5-6 have the best credit gain potential, KV is a favourite as is VK3601/M8 sherman

 

[PowerYoga]

best way is to just rotate through all your tanks. Scouting earns you diddily squat for money, though. If you like the scouting role you might enjoy russian medium tanks, which have a run-and-gun style of gameplay for the most part.

You need to learn how to play the tank to the role its designed for, all of the tier 2 tank destroyers are fairly punchy, and the Marder can hurt even KVs. Yes they're squishy, but that's why you let others light up stuff for you.

edit: Disagree with tank destroyers being crap. Most people don't use them well, even those in big destroyers like ferdinand and jagdtigers. A ferd in a good position is very scary, the 128 punches huge holes in everything, including maus.

 

[Skott]

I'm not a TD player really. I played the Tier 1 German TD a bit but the whole idea of having no turret and having to turn the whole tank to aim and shoot really turned me off of them pretty quickly even though I like to snipe in WoT with tanks. Last week I bought a M36 Slugger. I researched and crossed over from the M4 Easy 8. Considering how much I disliked TDs in general I find myself really liking the M36 Slugger. It can take a couple hits and even bounce some and with the 90mm gun it can do some damage even against the big tanks. I like a TD with a moving turret. I'm keeping this tank!