[MMO] World of Tanks

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eLiu

Diamond Member
Jun 4, 2001
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Why the fuck is it even possible for a KV to bounce shells from a short88?! 90mm turret armor vs 99-165mm penetration. Firing STRAIGHT AT HIM. All of my shots bounce but all of his penetrate.

Tier 7 vs Tier 5. What the fuck.
 

Maximilian

Lifer
Feb 8, 2004
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Ugh I HATE being bottom tier on super high (tier10 in this case) tier matches. HATE HATE HATE.

Especially when my inbred fuckwit team's t10 tanks decide to CHARGE THE CENTER FIELD on campinovka. Gee, I fucking wonder what will happen?!

So they're all dead. Go go gadget Tiger+short88!

I do this every time campinovka shows up, hate that map, would rather die and play another tank
 

eLiu

Diamond Member
Jun 4, 2001
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I do this every time campinovka shows up, hate that map, would rather die and play another tank

That's pretty lame. I hate that map too but fucking your team over is weak.

They really need to have a 'map bans' system where each player can specify some number of maps that they will *NEVER* have to play on. Given the map pool size, prob 2 or 3 bans would be reasonable. Starcraft II (among other games) does this.

And 'oh everybody would ban X map' is not a valid counter-argument. If everyone bans a map, that map shouldn't be in the pool b/c it is clearly awful.
 

PowerYoga

Diamond Member
Nov 6, 2001
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They really need to have a 'map bans' system where each player can specify some number of maps that they will *NEVER* have to play on. Given the map pool size, prob 2 or 3 bans would be reasonable. Starcraft II (among other games) does this.

And 'oh everybody would ban X map' is not a valid counter-argument. If everyone bans a map, that map shouldn't be in the pool b/c it is clearly awful.

Fuck yes. I'd pay money just to not play komarin. I'm actually ok with campinova, it usually ends up being a big shoot out every time for me and it's pretty fun times up on the hill.

Speaking of a fun campinova game, here it is. (Unless someone else tells me a better file upload site I'm going to use megaupload...)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9VYG18UX
 

Binky

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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My T32 seems to be earning 40k-50k per battle now. I don't recall anything about credits going up in the last patch. Maybe I'm just playing while sober.
 

eLiu

Diamond Member
Jun 4, 2001
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Fuck yes. I'd pay money just to not play komarin. I'm actually ok with campinova, it usually ends up being a big shoot out every time for me and it's pretty fun times up on the hill.

Speaking of a fun campinova game, here it is. (Unless someone else tells me a better file upload site I'm going to use megaupload...)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9VYG18UX

oh god, that map. I never remember the names so I had to look it up. But when I saw the minimap, I immediately knew. That map is AWFUL.

I don't mind campinovka that much either. The only time it sucks is when ppl charge the middle and get shredded. But I can have a good time pushing the hill or finding cover and sniping from the starting areas.

Like most of the maps only get uber annoying when your team is being retarded... like dumbass charging an army of Ferdinands on the valley side of Lakeville. But Komarin is ALWAYS bad. Even when we win decisively it still sucks dick.
 

Skott

Diamond Member
Oct 4, 2005
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Went back and bought a 3001P so I could grind up to the Tiger P and follow that heavy line in the future. I hate the 3001P but at least everything was already researched so I can start out as a fully upgraded pos tank. Even had the last engine researched so its not a super slow pos tank. Figure do it now while they have a Daily 5x XP special going to help me get to the Tiger P faster.
 

ginfest

Golden Member
Feb 22, 2000
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Why the fuck is it even possible for a KV to bounce shells from a short88?! 90mm turret armor vs 99-165mm penetration. Firing STRAIGHT AT HIM. All of my shots bounce but all of his penetrate.

Tier 7 vs Tier 5. What the fuck.
It isn't IRL and shouldn't be. There are hundreds of these type of things that happen in the game because of an obvious "weighting" towards the Russian side tanks.
 

Possessed Freak

Diamond Member
Nov 4, 1999
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Why the fuck is it even possible for a KV to bounce shells from a short88?! 90mm turret armor vs 99-165mm penetration. Firing STRAIGHT AT HIM. All of my shots bounce but all of his penetrate.

How far away were you, over distance AP decreases. Are you aiming at the curves in the turret or the angled armor on the tank or aiming at the flat surfaces. I have glances with the 128 on my Ferdi on a KV before. It is annoying but it happens. Last night in my KV, I bounced an American T34 big gun from the REAR. He ate a derp for that one and then I promptly died.
 

stag3

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2005
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had a good game with my su-85 last night, i just wish it had a tad more health.
usually 1 shot on me takes me down to ~100 or i'm dead.

took out 6 but my team still lost. the 107 is way more fun on this than the KV.
i only play her for my 2xp nowadays.

it's weird with the is-7, i play it so carefully and methodically because it loses credits like crazy. but with all the other tanks even if i suicide rush i still make money, i have no patience to play that way with all my other tanks tho. it is starting to feel like a chore to go for the daily doubles right now with 13 tanks, i can't imagine those with 20+ tanks.
 

pinkfloyd48

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Oct 2, 2006
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Im starting to hate the M10 cant wait to get rid of it, I did alot better with my T40. I also dont like playing against Type 59,s I think there overpowered
 

PowerYoga

Diamond Member
Nov 6, 2001
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M10 is the wolverine? You have to step through the M36 next, which is essentially the same tank with a bigger gun. You can't seriously expect to hurt a tier 8 in a tier 5 (correct me if I'm wrong) td though. But I think the M10 has the 76, which should be able to penetrate the sides of the T-59 fairly consistently. You just gotta pick your shots. The type 59 is harder to crack than any other tier 8 medium though, and I think it can do with a revamped matching.
 

novasatori

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Feb 27, 2003
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Im starting to hate the M10 cant wait to get rid of it, I did alot better with my T40. I also dont like playing against Type 59,s I think there overpowered

Play "medium" company battles with the M10 and M36, you will be able to damage just about everything and get a bunch of kills.

I got the M36 just to use in T6 company battles and it is awesome.
 

stag3

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i was about to buy the M10 since it's 50% off right now, maybe i will just save up free xp and bypass it

i dont see any russian bias, maybe the kv, but that's about it.
it is not the best at any tier after 5, possibly 6 (but the kv-3 is shit due to MM)

T29 > IS
KT > IS-3
E75 > IS-4
MAUS/E100 > IS-7
 

stag3

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2005
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i'm waiting for the american tree change for the T30, it looks like the M10 is the jumping point right now, to the T30 line.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Hmm this is going to take some getting used to. I just havent had the time yet. Derp KV is still fine for the most part. Sadly the days of one shotting some Tier 5s and Tier 4s appear over. But it can still be deadly.

I cant quite find the right spots to hit Tier 7+ with my IS's 122. I am still scratching my head how I wasnt able to penetrate a fernidand's rear with the 122. We played the map where there is a large valley with a bridge people drive under and half the teams get put up to and the rest in the valley. It was about 6 heavies vs 4 of their heavies and 3 TDs to the west of the city on that map going at it on the big hill. Everything we were throwing at them was bouncing. I must had shot 3 different tanks with 8 rounds with 1 penetration. I knew the new system was supposed to be more precise but sweet jesus. We lost badly.
 

PowerYoga

Diamond Member
Nov 6, 2001
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The 122 doesn't have very much pen for tier 7 and 8 so if you're firing at any sort of slope I wouldn't be surprised. The average engagement distance on that map is like 300-400m unless you're in the city, so I'm surprised you could hit anything with the 122.
 

Possessed Freak

Diamond Member
Nov 4, 1999
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i was about to buy the M10 since it's 50% off right now, maybe i will just save up free xp and bypass it

i dont see any russian bias, maybe the kv, but that's about it.
it is not the best at any tier after 5, possibly 6 (but the kv-3 is shit due to MM)

T29 > IS
KT > IS-3
E75 > IS-4
MAUS/E100 > IS-7

The amount of bouncing I get in the IS 4 is insane. Before 7.0 I would agree the e75 is superior to the is4, but now...

If clan wars is anything to go by, the IS7 is a POS... except for its speed.
 

PowerYoga

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Nov 6, 2001
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It still depends on where you hit the IS-4. Driver's hatch is still as vulnerable as ever, and the segmented armor on the front can be penetrated easily if you hit the flat parts. The e-75 I have tremendous problem penetrating from the front, so much that I don't even bother anymore, even with the BL-10. I just try to flank and shoot it in the side instead of wasting a shell.
 

eLiu

Diamond Member
Jun 4, 2001
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How far away were you, over distance AP decreases. Are you aiming at the curves in the turret or the angled armor on the tank or aiming at the flat surfaces. I have glances with the 128 on my Ferdi on a KV before. It is annoying but it happens. Last night in my KV, I bounced an American T34 big gun from the REAR. He ate a derp for that one and then I promptly died.

I was something like 150m away. Yeah AP dies off w/range but c'mon, 99mm is my "minimum" so rolling anywhere near 99 should be fairly rare. I was aiming for the flat part of the turret where it meets the hull. I figured if I hit there, I should pen. If I hit the mantlet dead on, I should pen. If I hit the hull, I should pen (esp w/those 3 weak viewing/mg/etc ports on the front). So maybe I was pounding dirt into the tiiiny curved part? I think my aiming circle was just about as big as his turret.

I swear the random rolls sometimes don't feel that random*. Like I must've had some ridiculous bad luck against the KV to be rolling like low-pen & hitting on the curved parts or something. But it works in my favor sometimes too. Like I pen'd a KT *frontally* with my vk3061 from 250m. Three times. In a row. After that I couldn't even damage it w/HE, haha.

I'm sooo tempted to just drop 15k free xp on the long88. Godamn 203mm of pen sounds amazing!

*Yes I know how mathematically retarded this statement is, but I know anyone who's ever played a game dependent on a RNG knows what I'm talking about with this.

edit: And I'm generally not claiming broken mechanics or unfair bias or anything like that. Just needing to express some frustration at getting my ass kicked by a KV!!!! Ugh
 

PowerYoga

Diamond Member
Nov 6, 2001
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I think with the new armor models, doesn't the turret now get 2 layers of armor? 1 layer for the turret armor, one for the gun mantlet. If you roll low and your shell is fired at an angle, it's not going to hit the armor at 90 degrees. If your aiming reticule is as large as his turret it's not going to be accurate enough to strike a particular surface for the most part. I normally don't bother shooting the turret for that reason unless I have a 200+ pen gun.

I've actually bounced S-70 rounds off the turret before, ridiculous as it sounds. So if you think your 88 with 130mm of penetration bouncing sounds bad, look at mine with 250+ and bouncing. :hmm:
 

Nintendesert

Diamond Member
Mar 28, 2010
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So, horrible couple games in my E-75 last night. But me and my brother, both E-75s took a few shots at a KV-3 coming right at us. Multiple bounced rounds from the frontal armor when we're using a 12.8cm gun.

Yeah ok.
 

Skott

Diamond Member
Oct 4, 2005
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I'm thinking with the 7.0 Patch and the need to be more precise in where you hit a tank to do damage that those hit box mods are going to become more popular. I've consider trying one but so far I been too lazy to bother installing one and trying it. LOL
 

stag3

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2005
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yea my is-4 hasn't been bouncing more than usual, everyone knows to aim for the drivers hatch, i still wiggle left/right when im about to get hit.
i don't think angling works as well on the is-4 as it does on other tanks.
my KT angled slightly seems to bounce a lot compared to the is-4
 
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