The Matchmaker fails again?
HELL NO!
Good gameplay beats Wolfpacks of single players.
HELL NO!
Good gameplay beats Wolfpacks of single players.
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The Matchmaker fails again?
HELL NO!
Good gameplay beats Wolfpacks of single players.
Just had a game where we split unevenly into two teams. It was me(M4E8) + IS + Tiger + E75 while the other side had the rest of our heavies and mediums. We managed to roll down our side killing a Lowe, E75, 2xT34-85s, Tiger II, Tiger, SU-152, A-20, and an IS. The other side got stuck on the train tracks because a single Type 59 was on the hill shooting at them. I was telling them to get going. And it took until our side cleared out and moved in on their side and shooting the Type 59 from behind before they would leave the safety of the raised rail tracks. All the most vocal coward would say was "Mediums needed to take hill". I responded with "A single Type 59 shouldnt hold up all of you". Just unbelievable.
I swear my Tiger I turns faster & feels more nimble than the upgraded (except for last engine) VK3001P. I thought going from 420->600hp would make this fucker less crappy, but nooo. It's still unbearably slow. How can anyone call this tank a flanker? The 55kph top speed is a joke! Last engine is 670hp so I doubt that'll make a noticeable difference, *sigh*
Stock, this tank was godawful. God. Awful. Now even w/most upgrades (all but last engine) it's STILL bad. Sometimes it reaches up to "meh" levels.
Edit: though somehow my stats are pretty good?? In 30 games I have a 68% win rate. Color me surprised...
3001p is hands down the worst german tank along with the ausf A III thing at tier 3/4 ish.
Lol, by my count there were 12 Type 59's in that battle. Out of 30 players, that's 40%! Seriously, how can people not say that they aren't currently OP?
They have favorable MM preference (nerf incoming, yay) and they bounce far more often than other tanks. When I'm in my T32 or T34, I shouldn't be more concerned about a 59 than other tier 8's like other T32's, or a Lowe, but I am. They are just very hard to kill when they are facing you. Sure, blast the sides or the back of the turret and they go boom, but how often does somebody show the back of their turret in a 1v1 encounter? Since the patch, I'm also bouncing a lot more off their tracks (not specific to 59's though).
Oh, and they make boatloads of credits too.
The majority of the comments saying that they aren't OP appear to be from people that own one. Does anybody really believe that they are played this much because they are not OP, or is it more likely that they generate credits very well, AND they are very effective (e.g. OP), and therefore more enjoyable to play than the Lowe. There have to be more Lowe's owned by current players than the 59's, but the number of Lowe's in battles is about 20% of the number of 59's.
/rant
In any MMO, the most simple and accurate measure of OP or not OP is generally class/vehicle/whatever played as a percentage of the total population. If one unit is played far more than the others...umm....duh.
It's even worse when that unit costs $30 of real money. If anybody here doesn't think that Type 59's are over-represented, as compared to the other tanks in the game, you are very very bad at math.
Even the credit making part of the equation is mostly meaningless (IMO), since the Lowe is about as good in that respect and it's numbers per game are FAR lower than the 59. I have no actual evidence to back this up (i.e. I'm assuming that the lowe population is greater than or equal to the 59 population).
I'm assuming that the current purchases of Lowe's dropped to crap once the 59 came out - BUT, that doesn't eliminate the large number of Lowes that were already purchased and available for play. I see 500%-1,000% more 59's than lowes in games. If we assume that the population is equal (yeah..no evidence) then there are two possibilities - the lowe is less fun to play and/or the lowe is not as effective as the 59. Being effective in a game makes the game more fun to play. Nobody want to be in that shit tank that isn't useful at all and is a drag on your team (e.g. stock U.S. T34!).Lowe and type 59 arent really comparable.
Lowe is a rip off at 12500 gold, type 59 is only 7500.
Some people find the lowe shit boring to play because it is so slow, type 59 is different.
I dont think the type 59 is OP at all, lowes are far more dangerous IMO. Type 59 gun is rubbish and its easy enough to hurt just watch the angles and don't hit the turret.
I know the MM piles them all onto the same team but it does that with every tank usually. If your team is at least semi good they will know to play defensively and wait for the typically suicidal idiot type 59s to come to them and thin out their numbers.
I'm assuming that the current purchases of Lowe's dropped to crap once the 59 came out - BUT, that doesn't eliminate the large number of Lowes that were already purchased and available for play. I see 500%-1,000% more 59's than lowes in games. If we assume that the population is equal (yeah..no evidence) then there are two possibilities - the lowe is less fun to play and/or the lowe is not as effective as the 59. Being effective in a game makes the game more fun to play. Nobody want to be in that shit tank that isn't useful at all and is a drag on your team (e.g. stock U.S. T34!).
My vote - the lowe is not as effective. I think others are voting the same way, by playing the 59 a LOT more than the Lowe.
In the tiers it gets placed it is deadly. If it were constantly fighting higher tier tanks that had guns that can reliable penetrate them I agree, it isnt that great of a tank. But when they are put up against tier 6 and below good luck. Guns are not reliable against them and they are faster and can hit harder.
Well ive ground through the american heavy tree whilst there were many type 59s and i will be going for the 2nd german heavy tree soon and i haven't had any trouble with the 59's. Im not saying i kill them easily they can be tough nuts to crack and in a tier 6 i obviously cant solo them but in a tier 6 tank you shouldn't be gunning for the 59's, i never do, the other tier 8's on your team should be trying to kill them. Tier 6 tanks would have just as much trouble fighting a KT or IS3.