[MMO] World of Tanks

[novasatori]

the FT17 gave me a slot

I had all my slots filled before the patch though

 

[novasatori]

wait so we get the free tank AND another slot in addition to? not just a free tank, and having to sell it for a slot?

if your slots were full they gave you 1 for each free tank you got, so the FT17 and Tetrarch took up 2 extra slots.

if you want to use them for something else you'll have to dump the tanks

 

[Genx87]

Hey guys ,is it just me or in the last 5 days MM has been really bad about mis-matched/team balance. I have never been steamrolled so much or been on a team that steamrolled the other team so much in playing WoT. I have had very few even matches in the last few days, it was real hard because I was working on getting my big gun for my T 28 TD(worth it). It was killing me because when getting rolled was only getting @ 200 to 250 XP a match in a loss and with such a slow tank only @350 to 400 XP for a win because the match was over before I could get there( has many matches I didn' t fire one shot). It took a lot of battle to get there. This happens with other tanks not just T 28, anybody else?

I have noticed this as well. Rarely do I get a game that is balanced.

 

[Elcs]

the FT17 gave me a slot

I had all my slots filled before the patch though

That goes against what Overlord told us on EU.

Free garage slot never went amiss though

 

[stag3]

so the 1 code, NEWYEARNA gave us 2 free tanks?

 

[novasatori]

no you should get the Ft17 by default in your garage it is the starter french tank

the code gives you the Tetrarch premium tank

 

[clok1966]

question: See several replay videos on Youtube with the health bars above the tanks (tab key) how do you keep that on all the time? are these people just keeping the tab key pressed full time or is it some mod? As you can hit the tab key anytime for the info it cant be any issue with a mod to keep it on all the time, but i havent seen a way to do that in game or otherwise.

also are there any stat (parser) programs like most online RPG games have.. As win/lose ration depends so much on team play.. somthing it seems most dont understand.. I would like to track some of my stats i bit more through than the game does. So i can understand which tanks are best for my playstyle. I hate the Lee.. but its my best tank for Exp.. and Im wondering if its matchmaking favoring me, my hate of the tank i play it much differently (carefully) or? I average 3 kills a match with it.. but i seldom win matchs in it. As kills are not really a telling note on how good you are in a tank, but DMG delt is I'm looking for soemthign to parse up some stats. So anybody have any info on somethign like this?

 

[Skott]

question: See several replay videos on Youtube with the health bars above the tanks (tab key) how do you keep that on all the time? are these people just keeping the tab key pressed full time or is it some mod? As you can hit the tab key anytime for the info it cant be any issue with a mod to keep it on all the time, but i havent seen a way to do that in game or otherwise.

also are there any stat (parser) programs like most online RPG games have.. As win/lose ration depends so much on team play.. somthing it seems most dont understand.. I would like to track some of my stats i bit more through than the game does. So i can understand which tanks are best for my playstyle. I hate the Lee.. but its my best tank for Exp.. and Im wondering if its matchmaking favoring me, my hate of the tank i play it much differently (carefully) or? I average 3 kills a match with it.. but i seldom win matchs in it. As kills are not really a telling note on how good you are in a tank, but DMG delt is I'm looking for soemthign to parse up some stats. So anybody have any info on somethign like this?

They are mods people have installed in their game. Go to the official forum and there is a section there with all the various mods available.

 

[novasatori]

for damage and healthbars use overtarget markers here is the one for 7.1 works with russian and NA wot:
http://www.koreanrandom.com/forum/files/file/4-overtargetmarkers/

 

[Skott]

Well, so far I can reliably say that Tier 1 and Tier 2 French tanks (RenaultF1 & D1) once fully upgraded suck horribly compared to their German, Russian, and American counterparts of the same tier. Haven't gotten the Tier 3 D2 tank yet. I will shortly.

Edit: Got the D2 tank and it is fully upgraded. It is better than the D1 but you get thrown into battles against much better tanks like the KV. I don't care for it much. Slow and even the best gun feels underwhelmed. One thing I have discovered. French tanks, like the AMX38, have a soft forehead. Aim above the gun when close up and you do more damage than a body shot.

 

[clok1966]

They are mods people have installed in their game. Go to the official forum and there is a section there with all the various mods available.

thanks to both of you. I glanced at forums but didnt see them, gotta take a second look.

 

[eLiu]

Incorrect. The Tetrarch gives you a free slot. The FT17 does not.

Maybe you get 2 slots if all of your slots were full? Before the patch, my garage was maxed at 13: Sherman E2, T20, T29, Leopard, PZ IV, VK3601, Tiger H, Tiger P, Tiger II, T-127, KV, KV-3, T-34/85.

After applying 7.1 & logging in, I had the FT17 sitting there too. Gold & credit totals hadn't changed so I wasn't billed in any way. Then I entered the NEWYEARNA code and the Tetrarch was added bringing the total to 15. I've since elited the FT17 & sold it for a Hotchkiss (which wasn't as beastly as I thought it would be) and the slot didn't go away or anything.

That'd be pretty dumb if you didn't get a free slot for the FT17 if your garage wasn't maxed. Either way this definitely happened for me.

 

[Skott]

Before I logged in I had one unused free slot in my garage. I got a French RenaultF1 and its slot and I got a Tetrarch and it's slot. I also still had the unused slot. In short you get two tanks and two slots assuming you redeem the free code for the Tetrarch.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Yup I got the french tank and the Tetrarch and still have the same number of free slots. EU.

 

[eLiu]

So uh, KT vs IS-4. I only have the long 88mm right now. What do you do? I try maneuvering around to hit the side (hull) armor but it STILL bounces more often than not. I've tried shooting low into the front armor and that bounces most of the time too. Driver's hatch is hard to hit unless i'm right up in his face (and why would I be... he'll rape me) and that bounces anyway.

Will this get less one-sided with the long 105? There must be something I'm missing. How can his side armor be so bouncy

edit: oh yeah, and gripe gripe gripe yet ANOTHER afternoon of constant fail teams! GAH. My KV-3 kills a Lowe AND THEN a T29 almost by itself. We still lose.

 

[Binky]

So uh, KT vs IS-4. I only have the long 88mm right now. What do you do? I try maneuvering around to hit the side (hull) armor but it STILL bounces more often than not. I've tried shooting low into the front armor and that bounces most of the time too. Driver's hatch is hard to hit unless i'm right up in his face (and why would I be... he'll rape me) and that bounces anyway.

Will this get less one-sided with the long 105? There must be something I'm missing. How can his side armor be so bouncy

Just be glad that you're not doing this in a T34. I have a hard time killing IS-3's!

 

[Maximilian]

Just be glad that you're not doing this in a T34. I have a hard time killing IS-3's!

T34 sucks so badly. Ive gottedn around 55k exp on mine just from the 5x events and the occasional daily double. No way am i playing that POS regularly.

 

[Craig234]

Well, so far I can reliably say that Tier 1 and Tier 2 French tanks (RenaultF1 & D1) once fully upgraded suck horribly compared to their German, Russian, and American counterparts of the same tier.

Oh ya.

 

[stag3]

So uh, KT vs IS-4. I only have the long 88mm right now. What do you do? I try maneuvering around to hit the side (hull) armor but it STILL bounces more often than not. I've tried shooting low into the front armor and that bounces most of the time too. Driver's hatch is hard to hit unless i'm right up in his face (and why would I be... he'll rape me) and that bounces anyway.

Will this get less one-sided with the long 105? There must be something I'm missing. How can his side armor be so bouncy

edit: oh yeah, and gripe gripe gripe yet ANOTHER afternoon of constant fail teams! GAH. My KV-3 kills a Lowe AND THEN a T29 almost by itself. We still lose.

yea long 105 is awesome, but you still gotta play sniper against an is-4 or he will eat you alive

 

[eLiu]

yea long 105 is awesome, but you still gotta play sniper against an is-4 or he will eat you alive

If I can't penetrate him at 100-200m range, then I'm reluctant to fire at even longer ranges when it's pretty much dumb chance where I hit & whether it penetrates. Thing is his side armor (on paper) isn't that thick & it doesn't appear sloped? Are there like weird spots that are super bouncy? I usually aim right above the tracks to try and avoid 0 damage crits... is this a bad plan?

In city fighting (1v1 we were pretty much all that was left), I hit him like 12 or 13 times, penetrating only like 3 times. He hit me 3 or 4 times, penetrating every time (damn stock turret, lol). Felt so helpless Should I just run away next time? Or are there places that I should be able to pen reliably and just need to try more?

 

[Maximilian]

If I can't penetrate him at 100-200m range, then I'm reluctant to fire at even longer ranges when it's pretty much dumb chance where I hit & whether it penetrates. Thing is his side armor (on paper) isn't that thick & it doesn't appear sloped? Are there like weird spots that are super bouncy? I usually aim right above the tracks to try and avoid 0 damage crits... is this a bad plan?

In city fighting (1v1 we were pretty much all that was left), I hit him like 12 or 13 times, penetrating only like 3 times. He hit me 3 or 4 times, penetrating every time (damn stock turret, lol). Felt so helpless Should I just run away next time? Or are there places that I should be able to pen reliably and just need to try more?

IS4 is an absolute wrecking machine, i wouldnt expect to beat it in a tier 8 at all. To do damage when playing peek-a-boo shoot his lower front hull, that part that has the spare tracks on it, thats an excellent way to hurt him.

If hitting him from the sides make sure he isnt angled, if he is you need a pretty good gun to hurt him in that case and even then its not guaranteed.

 

[Skott]

Well, I'm up to the Tier 4 B1 tank now still not impressed with the French heavy line. Tanks are extremely slow and under gunned. I cannot believe the Devs came up with this. So far it has my vote for worst tank line ever in this game. Most other nation tanks just walk all over this tank line. Pathetic really. Starting in Tier 3 you'll come up against KV tanks and they just laugh at the French tankers as they waltz through one shotting everything. TDs basically run up to you and deflect shots and put one or two shots into and kill you as well. PzIIIs will run circles around you and kill you pretty quick too. I can't remember a line of tanks so bad like this.

Edit: I couldn't stand it anymore. I spent 600 gold for the 14k+ xp I needed to research the next tank in the line. The Tier 5 BDR G1B heavy tank. I read that the stock 75mm gun was really bad so I immediately got the 75mm Long 44 which is the second gun in the upgrade path. Finally! A French gun that actually does damage and it can kill something too! The tank is a funny looking thing. First fight we were all joking it looked like some toy Hasbro or Mattel would make for a kid. Its not fully upgraded yet. I got the tracks, second 75mm gun, and turret. Next thing on my list for it is the 90mm gun. Highest level tanks I have faced with it so far is the T-29 and Tiger. Both tear the BDR G1B to shreds. The BDR's armor is not that great and it has a high profile which doesn't help it. Not something to take on the front line. Best to hang back and snipe. But finally a gun that can actually penetrate something! I went with gun rammer, vents, and coated optics. I considered a spall liner but figured since I would need to lay back the extra range would be more helpful to me. I'll report more on it once I get some more play time on it and get the 90mm.

 

[PowerYoga]

If I can't penetrate him at 100-200m range, then I'm reluctant to fire at even longer ranges when it's pretty much dumb chance where I hit & whether it penetrates. Thing is his side armor (on paper) isn't that thick & it doesn't appear sloped? Are there like weird spots that are super bouncy? I usually aim right above the tracks to try and avoid 0 damage crits... is this a bad plan?

In city fighting (1v1 we were pretty much all that was left), I hit him like 12 or 13 times, penetrating only like 3 times. He hit me 3 or 4 times, penetrating every time (damn stock turret, lol). Felt so helpless Should I just run away next time? Or are there places that I should be able to pen reliably and just need to try more?

The IS-4 is hard to deal with even with tier 9 vehicles at range. I don't expect to be able to penetrate it much in a tier 8, even with the long 88.

There's a few good spots to shoot the IS4 if you just have the 88...

1) driver hatch. huge weakness in the front, and easily penetrated with a long 88. If I was shooting my is-4, this is what I go for. So easy to penetrate this from the front I'd rather take my chances with the side armor.
2) Like Elcs said, the bottom glacis. There are also 2 rounds of ammo behind the head lights.
3) If he's angling towards you, hit the flat part of the hexagon-ey armor on the side. Not a guaranteed penetration but better than hitting angled armor plates.
4) side hull armor is angled and is admittedly difficult to penetrate if angled. I don't really know of any good shots you can do to the side if he's angling, just hit something else.

 

[stag3]

damn those french tanks are fast, saw so many tier 9 french last night.
the heavy is able to keep up with my T54 LOL

 

[Daverino]

I agree that the B1 is absolutely atrocious. They could have at least made it as good as the German gold B2, but not so.

The problem is the gun. It has 66 mm of penetration at best. And when you're fortunate to pen, it will throw out 55 damage. In fact, it's the same gun that the preceding tank, the D2, has equipped. The D2 was undergunned at Tier 3, and the B1 is truly a sad sad creature using that same gun a tier higher. For anyone who slogged through the American T34 with the 105, you might be able to understand.

To make it clear, consider the M3 Lee that is widely loathed and also a T4 tank. Its top gun dishes out twice as much damage (110) with decent penetration of 92 AND has a comparable ROF (23 rounds per minute vs 27 rounds per minute). The German T3 TD (Marder II) does 125 damage with 118mm of penetration. Other German and American tanks at T4 have derp guns available and the Russian tanks are ever better armed. The only tank that is equivalently poorly armed at T4 is the German Pz38nA which is at least small and fast.