[MMO] World of Tanks

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Elcs

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Apr 27, 2002
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13 matches in Company with my Clan. 12 victories, 1 loss (ended up our Hummel vs. their GWP and we *just* lost that match)

I took out my fully equipped AMX 13 90, 100% crew, 55% camo, EGLD, Optics, Vents and turned out good result after good result. Here is my very best:

Victory!
Battle: El Halluf 06 January 2012 20:28:42
Vehicle: AMX 13 90
Experience received: 2,314
Credits received: 51,264
Battle Achievements: Master Gunner, Sharpshooter
 

eLiu

Diamond Member
Jun 4, 2001
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I know you guys have said it before but the IS is... disappointing. Geez. The soviet tank lines are all like shitawful to meh tanks up until tier... 8? 9? 10? lol I'm sure I'll improve some but so far this tank is... ugh. Crappy armor, crappy gun, crappy speed. Tiger H > it in every way. Even T29 > IS in every way and I still don't like the T29.

Is the first 122mm worth it? I have the gun but need to research turret. Or should I get engine first?
 
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Binky

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Oct 9, 1999
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I know you guys have said it before but the IS is... disappointing. Geez. The soviet tank lines are all lik,e shitawful to meh tanks up until tier... 8? 9? 10? lol I'm sure I'll improve some but so far this tank is... ugh. Crappy armor, crappy gun, crappy speed. Tiger H > it in every way. Even T29 > IS in every way and I still don't like the T29.

Is the first 122mm worth it? I have the gun but need to research turret. Or should I get engine first?
KV is very good, KV3 is good, IS sucks...but the 122 makes it much better.

I hear good things about IS3-IS7.
 

Nintendesert

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The IS doesn't suck. You need the 122 and you need to learn how to use it. The tank is a peak a boo tank like most of the russian ones. You keep in cover, pop out and hit something with your big gun. You hide while it reloads.

The IS3 is a lot better now that the sloped armor changes were made.

I'm not sure what you're doing or how you're playing but the Tiger H is food. Any tank I'm in they are free kills. That shitty flat armor deflects nothing. Hell I eat them up in Chaffees. The Tiger H in this game is just sad.
 

stag3

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Feb 7, 2005
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yea everyone will tell you the 122 is the way to go on the IS. however i completed my grind using the 100mm, fast reload, way cheaper ammo price, pen isn't that much less than the 122. it just felt like i was able to do more as i play pretty aggressively, as opposed to peak and hide.
 

eLiu

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KV is very good, KV3 is good, IS sucks...but the 122 makes it much better.

I hear good things about IS3-IS7.

I liked the KV ok. The 107mm gun makes it nontrivial even in high tier matches. But you die real fast & you're too slow to get away from anything. Same goes for the KV-3, but it's even slower; as if that were possible. Both tanks are monters in their on tier but I find the lack of speed extremely irritating in higher tiers.

A similar statement can be made of a lot of the low tier french tanks... like AMX 40: super rape in tier4. Unbearably slow/vulnerable anywhere else. But its worse here b/c your gun has no significance in higher tiers.

The IS doesn't suck. You need the 122 and you need to learn how to use it. The tank is a peak a boo tank like most of the russian ones. You keep in cover, pop out and hit something with your big gun. You hide while it reloads.

The IS3 is a lot better now that the sloped armor changes were made.

I'm not sure what you're doing or how you're playing but the Tiger H is food. Any tank I'm in they are free kills. That shitty flat armor deflects nothing. Hell I eat them up in Chaffees. The Tiger H in this game is just sad.

I don't have the 2nd 122 yet (nor the turret). With the 100mm, I think you'd agree that the IS is not a brawler. The alpha damage is terrible. And you rarely bounce shots from same/higher tier opponents, so peekaboo'ing with the 100 is fail. But as above, IS is quite strong if it gets top tank. So far I've been told to play it like a medium which is what I've been doing.. and eh. T-34/85 gets the same 100mm gun. But again my tank isn't maxed yet.

The Tiger H is awesome. Maxed, it has the same power/weight ratio as a maxed IS. So it feels very agile (well the reverse speed makes me cry). 203mm of penetration is significant even in tier10. 175... meh. And the accuracy means I can bitchslap anyone from anywhere. With it's large HP pool, I feel comfortable going head to head with any other tier7 tank. Yeah maybe my armor sucks & they'll pen me, but with the long88 I'll pen them all the time too. But I prefer to stay in the 2nd line, providing support fire--damage, tracking, etc. It's easily my favorite tier7 heavy.

I guess fundamentally I like high penetration, accurate guns: sniping FTW. And I'd trade armor for mobility (not straight speed but agility) unless my armor is so awesome that large numbers of enemies that I face will bounce. That choice is mainly due to having to fight higher tiers. When you're bottom, your armor will get pen'd by anything but your speed never goes away.

yea everyone will tell you the 122 is the way to go on the IS. however i completed my grind using the 100mm, fast reload, way cheaper ammo price, pen isn't that much less than the 122. it just felt like i was able to do more as i play pretty aggressively, as opposed to peak and hide.

I find it hard to be really aggressive w/this tank (except when you're top). You don't move around particularly quickly and the side armor is easily pen'd by anything tier6 and many things tier5. I imagine the agility will get better w/the last engine but right now it bears little similarity to a medium. T-34/85 gets the same gun and it feels way more powerful in that setting.

I had mixed feelings with the 122 on the KV-3. I tried both 100mm and 122mm there (they both pen 175mm btw). The alpha damage was pretty sweet at times but the long reload sucks. And missing/bouncing sucked. I think I made less money with the 122 on KV-3, but bitchslapping a KT for 450 damage feels GOOD, haha.
 
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Skott

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Oct 4, 2005
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Finally got the 90mm gun on the BDR. At least now I can damage tier 8 tanks I come up against. Its still a two shot tanks though basically due to poor armor. Sometimes I get one shotted. But at least now I can do damage and make some progress with the grind. Basically I just hang back and snipe for the most part. I giggle though when I'm top tank. I got some bite baby! LOL
 

Daverino

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Despite close to 10,000 games, last night I had one of the best games I've ever played.

First one was on Abbey. I'm in my BDR with the 90mm and start off to probe the middle. A PzIV is covering the central slot. A Hetzer is in base and there's an arty piece in base too. The rest of the team goes off down the right and left alleys. I start up the middle and tangle with something in the center road, but then start taking hits from a Wolverine that's back in their base. I back off.

Around this time, maybe 3-4 minutes into the game, I notice that most of my team has died. In fact we've lost all eleven tanks but the ones I mentioned above. The enemy team has lost a total of two. A derp KV has gone straight up arty alley and killed everything there. The PzIV is now off covering the figure eight side, Hetzer still in the middle and I race back to where the KV is going to appear, coming up the hill to our base. Lost cause, but I was going to go down swinging.

The Hetzer goes over to meet the KV too and the KV fixed on him instead of me. The Hetzer backs up while I rip into the side of the KV. Two shots with the 90mm and he's dead. An AMX-40 and a D2 appear coming down the slot between arty alley and the Abbey to attack with the KV. I turn around and kill them both. Meanwhile the Hetzer kills something in the middle and the PzIV is fighting for its life at the base entrance on the other side with our arty. The PzIV kills three tanks there but we lose the arty piece.

An AMX 12t now shows up behind me where the KV came up the hill. The wreck of the KV is between me and him and he's going uphill while I'm going down. I charge him because he's masked by the wreck and drive behind him. One shot to the rear of his turret and he explodes. I start turning back towards the center and now I'm taking arty fire from their three arty pieces. A T-34 has come out of the Abbey and is attacking the middle so I charge into the middle. I'm at maybe 50% health now. The T-34 spots me and turns, but the Hetzer tracks him and spins him out. I finish him off. But now I'm in no-man's land between our base and the Abbey and arty is lighting me up. Worse, the Wolverine is up in the Abbey arches and shooting down on me. All I can do is drive towards the Abbey and hope to get under his gun, but it looks like the game is up. I take an engine hit and am stopped dead, but suddenly the firing stops.

I check the minimap. The PzIV has gone down the figure eight side and has entered the enemy base. He's now chasing the three enemy arty pieces around and tearing them apart. I repair my engine and press on to the Abbey. I have only a sliver of health left now and make it to the middle road. I know the Wolverine is close to full health and all the way up top. I wait and hope he engages the PzIV in base so I can come in behind him. Instead he's has already left the top and gone all the way to the side of the Abbey hoping to come around behind me. Which would have worked except for the Hetzer still in base. The Hetzer fires from the middle base entrance and the Wolverine goes after him. In the process he exposes his back rear to me as he drives into the middle. I track and damage him but he is laying on me and a strong breeze will kill me.

He bounces.

My next shot kills him.

All in all, I had six kills, the PzIV had another six and the Hetzer one. We got all of our kills outnumbered thirteen to four.
 
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stag3

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yea i havent decided if i want to go down the french line yet, even if i do not sure if i want heavy or medium
so my free xp is just kinda sitting there right now

recommendations?
 

Skott

Diamond Member
Oct 4, 2005
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yea i havent decided if i want to go down the french line yet, even if i do not sure if i want heavy or medium
so my free xp is just kinda sitting there right now

recommendations?

You'll hate at least the first four tiers of the French Heavies. It is not until you get to the Tier 5 BDR that you get a gun that can even do damage to anything. The BDR at best is just a plain average tank. The 90mm gun is nice but its still a two shot tank. Meaning you get hit twice by anything you are dead. Also, everyone knows the French tanks are squishy and they will not fear you. In fact they'll get a thrill of intentionally coming after you for the kill count.
 

stag3

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i think i have enough free xp to get to at least tier 4/5

is it better to go heavy or med?
 

Binky

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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The tier 2 French H35 Hotchkiss is a beast! I've run two battles in this little shit, and had 4 kills in each. Its gun can pen anything it meets for ~30 damage (not bad on a health pool of 100-140) and it bounces almost everything.

Victory!
Battle: Himmelsdorf Saturday, January 07, 2012 4:51:20 PM
Vehicle: Hotchkiss H35
Experience received: 1,698 (x2 for the first victory each day)
Credits received: 6,168
Battle Achievements: Master Gunner, Sharpshooter
 

stag3

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yet again horrible teams tonight where more than 1/2 of my matches, everyone goes 1 way, yet never push that way :\
 

stag3

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wow i just saw a tier X french heavy get 1 shotted by a tier 6 arty LOL
he said it happens all the time
 

stag3

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just got my E100, will be using the stock gun until i earn enough XP.
gonna wait on a 1/2 price sale on modules before i get my rammer/vents/spall
 

Skott

Diamond Member
Oct 4, 2005
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wow i just saw a tier X french heavy get 1 shotted by a tier 6 arty LOL
he said it happens all the time

Yep, French tanks are squishy. My BDR (T5) got one shotted by a Hummel last night in one fight. About as bad as IS4s one shotting me only more insulting because I never got to shoot back. I had a lot of fights with T9 tanks last night for some reason. I also noticed far fewer French tanks in fights. I think people figured out they suck and gave up on them. So far I'm not impressed with the French heavy line. Worse line in the game I feel so far but I'm only half way down the tree. Probably should have gone medium line. At least you get some fast tanks to dodge arty shots. Took a break away from the game today. Did other things.
 

stag3

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damnit i just used free xp to get to tier 5 french heavy and now you're saying medium is the way to go LOL
 

Daverino

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damnit i just used free xp to get to tier 5 french heavy and now you're saying medium is the way to go LOL

Both lines get their first good tank at T5, so either way you made the right decision to skip 1-4. T5 on the medium line is actually a light (5 through 7 are lights) but it has the autoloader which makes it a fun tank. The T5 on the heavy line is the first tank with a decent gun. It played (for me) much like a T1 heavy. The T6 heavy has a beastly gun. I can't wait to get my hands on it.
 

Maximilian

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The tier 6 french heavy suffers the same way every other tier 6 in the game suffers. It has impressive stats but will get shafted by the tier 8's 9's and 10's it will be matched up against.

Ive found tiers 2, 8 and 9 to be the most fun overall.
 
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