[MMO] World of Tanks

[eLiu]

just make sure when fighting someone 1 on 1 if you're gonna brawl (not what the is-3 is for tho) you are straight on against them, it's like the is-7 with the angled front armor. never angle in the is-3/is-7

If not brawling, what is it for? That's 90% of what I do w/the thing so far.

The IS-3 is an enjoyable tank. It's a fun brawler and the BL-9 makes it deadly and dangerous. It's in every way shape and form better than the IS, which was fun by itself as well.

The 2nd turret makes side shots at your turret hurt less at the cost of some frontal turret armor.

Does the 2nd turret have some glaring weaknesses on the front? B/c on paper it has 220mm armor vs 150mm of the first turret...

 

[stag3]

If not brawling, what is it for? That's 90% of what I do w/the thing so far.



Does the 2nd turret have some glaring weaknesses on the front? B/c on paper it has 220mm armor vs 150mm of the first turret...

well given equal skills KT > T32 = IS-3
i always used mine as a flanker, quick to reposition etc..

 

[PowerYoga]

Hm, I swore the 2nd turret had way less armor than that. Did they switch out the T-10 turret? If they did this looks like an all around upgrade. Previously the 2nd turret had thicker sides and a less armored front compared to the stock turret.

If that's the case then uh, upgrade away! More armor all around = good.

And you're supposed to be brawling with the IS-3. It's not good as a sniper and angling your armor for PABs is a terrible idea with the piked nose. You should be using your speed and maneuverability to circle strafe big tanks like a big medium.

If you have to fight something head on... make sure your tank is straight. I love to shoot IS3s that angle their pike plate.

 

[stag3]

the arl44 is as horrible as i feared it would be ........ paper armor, slow as hell. it's like the kv with less armor

 

[Possessed Freak]

The 90 hits hard, pretty accurate. It clues you in as to how the rest of the line plays. Good guns, decent output, do NOT fully engage the enemy or you will die!

 

[Genx87]

Holy Christ is my Tiger II rocking the past week. I am avg 2-3 kills a game now. Still havent mastered angling with this beast. Some games the angle will deflect everything, another game their shots are like a shot knife through butter. But it feels like I have finally found its playstyle.

And got the panther with the long 75. Not sure what to think of this tank. I like mediums that have better mobility. While it can travel well going straight forward. Forget having to circle or brawl. I was outmanuevered by a Tiger in a game yesterday when I was forced to brawl. Am I going down the wrong medium line? Should I look at the Patton instead? Seems like American tanks can turn a hell of a lot easier.

 

[stag3]

Holy Christ is my Tiger II rocking the past week. I am avg 2-3 kills a game now. Still havent mastered angling with this beast. Some games the angle will deflect everything, another game their shots are like a shot knife through butter. But it feels like I have finally found its playstyle.

And got the panther with the long 75. Not sure what to think of this tank. I like mediums that have better mobility. While it can travel well going straight forward. Forget having to circle or brawl. I was outmanuevered by a Tiger in a game yesterday when I was forced to brawl. Am I going down the wrong medium line? Should I look at the Patton instead? Seems like American tanks can turn a hell of a lot easier.

no, the E50 rocks, i like to get moving and fire a shot just as i'm about to hit them LOL.
if you want a circling tank, get the T-54

i also liked the tiger II, but funds and starting a new crew wouldn't allow me to keep it along with the E75 and finally E100. i will probably buy another KT some day as i loved playing it.

 

[stag3]

The 90 hits hard, pretty accurate. It clues you in as to how the rest of the line plays. Good guns, decent output, do NOT fully engage the enemy or you will die!

i have the 3rd gun now, i believe it's the 2nd 90 with that little tip thing at the end of the gun.
even tho it has more pen than the one before it, i seem to be doing worse now...

 

[Nintendesert]

Holy Christ is my Tiger II rocking the past week. I am avg 2-3 kills a game now. Still havent mastered angling with this beast. Some games the angle will deflect everything, another game their shots are like a shot knife through butter. But it feels like I have finally found its playstyle.

And got the panther with the long 75. Not sure what to think of this tank. I like mediums that have better mobility. While it can travel well going straight forward. Forget having to circle or brawl. I was outmanuevered by a Tiger in a game yesterday when I was forced to brawl. Am I going down the wrong medium line? Should I look at the Patton instead? Seems like American tanks can turn a hell of a lot easier.

No, the Panther II is easily the best tier 8 medium out there. It's fast, accelerates really well, has good armor and has a gun that just demolishes tanks.

The Panther II for its tier and matchmaking is arguably better than the E-50. I have both and like driving both. The E-50 is amazing though too. With the German line though you get a great tier 8 and 9 tank.

As for the talk of the KT better than IS-3, perhaps before the sloped armor normalization changes. Afterwards the frontal armor of the IS-3 is vastly superior and that fat lower glacius of the KT won't bounce anything. That BL-9 will just eat a KT up and the superior speed of the IS-3 allows you to travel with the mediums and flank and slice through weak areas of the enemy.

 

[Binky]

And you're supposed to be brawling with the IS-3. It's not good as a sniper and angling your armor for PABs is a terrible idea with the piked nose. You should be using your speed and maneuverability to circle strafe big tanks like a big medium.

If you have to fight something head on... make sure your tank is straight. I love to shoot IS3s that angle their pike plate.

I love my IS-3, even with the crappy gun. The secret to killing an IS-3 head on is to target those hooks on the front. Maybe its a port, not hooks. I don't remember and I'm at work. I think I always shoot the driver side spot but I think there are two.

Sadly, I didn't realize this until I got my own IS-3 (paintball mod helps to see where hits landed). Now I can do some pretty serious damage to an IS-3 even in my little T29. I recently played peek-a-boo with a very bad IS-3 driver in my T29....and just annihilated him. I think I had 60% or more health left.

 

[Genx87]

I have had luck penentrating with the long 105 just above the pike on the left side when I face it. And if you can get him at an angle making the pike armor flat it is good times.

So II continue down the E50 line. I got spoiled by the E8 and PZ III\IV's ability to manuever.

 

[Skott]

the arl44 is as horrible as i feared it would be ........ paper armor, slow as hell. it's like the kv with less armor

Only the last 90mm on the ARL 44 is good. The others kinda meh. The 90mm is the only redeeming thing about the whole tank. Nobody is afraid of you because they know your armor is weak and your tank is slow. Can't even play peek-a-boo with it from behind solid things because the exposed treads stick way out.

 

[Ns1]

Got my first 2 kills today with the MS-1 =D

 

[LurkerPrime]

I got an IS-3 over the weekend (fully upgraded now) and I also got the gun and engine upgrades on my E-75. I love both of these tanks.

I'm liking the IS-3 more than my KT. The IS3 seems like it bounces much more often and its faster. It also has a much lower profile and is a better brawler. I just hope the IS-4 turns out to be just as good.

As for the E-75, I think its a hell of a lot of fun to play. Now that I have the 12.8cm I can do enough damage to break even in a shitty game and on a good game net 20-40k. This tank bounces alot of shots, and I'm not afraid to go head to head with other tier 9s.

I really need my T34 to go premium so I can start grinding out credits. I'm going to have the E-100 and IS-4 unlocked soon and I'm not going to be able to afford either of them.

 

[PowerYoga]

I love my IS-3, even with the crappy gun. The secret to killing an IS-3 head on is to target those hooks on the front. Maybe its a port, not hooks. I don't remember and I'm at work. I think I always shoot the driver side spot but I think there are two.

Sadly, I didn't realize this until I got my own IS-3 (paintball mod helps to see where hits landed). Now I can do some pretty serious damage to an IS-3 even in my little T29. I recently played peek-a-boo with a very bad IS-3 driver in my T29....and just annihilated him. I think I had 60% or more health left.

I usually try to shoot the flat sides of the pike, it goes through fairly reliably. On the rare occasion the guy's actually pointed at me straight, I used to shoot the center of the pike. Don't know if they ever fixed that little section yet, but back when I was playing it the center seam was the weakest part of the tank because it was completely flat and counted as unangled. Haven't tried it as of late though, don't see many Is-3s in my tier 6's. (it's mostly T-59s and american tanks right now)

But then I bounced 3 Bl-10 rounds off an is-3's sides yesterday, so....

The IS-4 is much much slower than the IS-3. If you like the speed on the IS3 you WILL be disappointed. It moves about as nimbly as the KV, but it has huge amounts of armor all over.

Just got my E-50 yesterday and I have to say.... this thing is sluggish!!! Turns like a slug and takes a long time to get up to speed. I'd say it's at least as nimble as the pII which is good, but it's much bigger and it's a juicy arty target as my first game showed...

Dumped free exp to get most upgrades immediately, the gun is beastly and freakishly accurate. I think I'll be playing this as a sniper/support gun platform as opposed to a brawler. I can't imagine trying to turn in this thing.

Good armor though, bounce 2 BL-10 rounds yesterday somehow.

 

[LurkerPrime]

I usually try to shoot the flat sides of the pike, it goes through fairly reliably. On the rare occasion the guy's actually pointed at me straight, I used to shoot the center of the pike. Don't know if they ever fixed that little section yet, but back when I was playing it the center seam was the weakest part of the tank because it was completely flat and counted as unangled. Haven't tried it as of late though, don't see many Is-3s in my tier 6's. (it's mostly T-59s and american tanks right now)

But then I bounced 3 Bl-10 rounds off an is-3's sides yesterday, so....

The IS-4 is much much slower than the IS-3. If you like the speed on the IS3 you WILL be disappointed. It moves about as nimbly as the KV, but it has huge amounts of armor all over.

Just got my E-50 yesterday and I have to say.... this thing is sluggish!!! Turns like a slug and takes a long time to get up to speed. I'd say it's at least as nimble as the pII which is good, but it's much bigger and it's a juicy arty target as my first game showed...

Dumped free exp to get most upgrades immediately, the gun is beastly and freakishly accurate. I think I'll be playing this as a sniper/support gun platform as opposed to a brawler. I can't imagine trying to turn in this thing.

Good armor though, bounce 2 BL-10 rounds yesterday somehow.

The IS-3 center of the pike is still a weakpoint. I pierce it all the time with the BL-9. Most of the time though other ISes aren't directly facing you, so you can shoot the flatter side facing you and usually pen. The best part is that due to the aim time on the Bl-9/10 most IS drivers have to stop to have a chance of hitting anywhere that won't bounce. If you have a faster aiming gun (most german tanks) you can take advantage of this to get a penning shot and then quickly move to throw them off. I've killed many of IS4s in my E75 like this. Also the weakest spot from the front on the E75 is the commanders copula/hatch, however its hard for any IS to hit when you face hug him. While hitting the top hatch or backing up slightly and hitting the center pike on him isn't that hard.

I guess I have to note that the center pike is easily penned by the 12.8cm and the bl-9 which are 246 and 225 pen. If you have less pen your chances are probably substantially less, although I have penned in my T32 10.5cm which I believe is only 198.

I loved the 5x xp btw. It helped me finally get the 203mm on my S-51. 40+sec reloads is crazy, but I hit an E-100 for 900 damage. I need to get a rammer on my arty, but I dont have the credits to burn on that atm and I'll wait for the next time modules are half off (even if its 3 months from now). At my current arty rate I'm sure it'll take me 6 months just to unlock the tier 7. The splash damage on the 203 is also pretty crazy. I've killed 2 type 59s on near misses still doing over 300+ damage. I've also had a round of like 30xp and 0 credits when I direct hit an IS-7 for 600dam killing him, but hurt both (2) my teammates that decided to face hug as I fired for ~400 each.

 

[Possessed Freak]

Just got my E-50 yesterday and I have to say.... this thing is sluggish!!! Turns like a slug and takes a long time to get up to speed. I'd say it's at least as nimble as the pII which is good, but it's much bigger and it's a juicy arty target as my first game showed...

Fully upgraded, the thing is an absolute beast. It is a great ramming tank and gets amazing bounces. I have taken the fire extinguisher off and tossed gas on it to help with acceleration.

If you are getting artied in a tier 9 medium, you are playing it wrong!

 

[stag3]

@ Lurker,

yea i've had my obj 212 now for a good month? and i'm barely at 90k xp now, and i need 311k..... i find the obj 212 a downgrade from the s-51. it holds more ammo and has more health but health doesn't matter as you still get 1 shot often.

 

[Ns1]

Got my first 2 kills today with the MS-1 =D

got 2 kills in the same game yesterday with the MS-1 =D

decent gun terrible armor.

 

[Possessed Freak]

got 2 kills in the same game yesterday with the MS-1 =D

decent gun terrible armor.

Decked out, that tank is an absolute monster. 100% crew with the 45mm is amazing. Got 10 kills in that thing one game.

 

[Genx87]

I am a nut. Bought the T-20. I cant help myself. The American mediums seem to fit me. First and only game I played on it. Fully upgraded out of the gate with a 75% crew+100 octane+repair kit+medical.

Himmelsdorf
4 Kills
Type 59
M4 Sherman
Stug III
Hummel

2975exp with the x5 and I believe 46,000 credits.

Turning, acceleration, and top speed just work for me.

 

[Ns1]

Decked out, that tank is an absolute monster. 100% crew with the 45mm is amazing. Got 10 kills in that thing one game.

noob question: any advice to leveling crew faster?

 

[LurkerPrime]

noob question: any advice to leveling crew faster?

If you know you aren't going to keep a tank, then once your crew on that tank hits 100% DON'T pick a secondary skill. The crew will continue to accrue experience, and when you move the crew to a new a tank, this accrued unassigned experience will be used to offset the xp loss when retraining. This way you can move the crew to a new tank and if you played enough battles on your old tank after getting 100% they will be at 100% on your new tank.

You can also level your crew faster by playing on an elited tank and selecting the crew training option after elited. I keep alot of my tanks (think I have 16 in my garage) so eventhough almost all my crews are at 100% most only have 1 secondary skill. Only my crew on my E-75 are close to maxing out a second secondary skill, and thats only b/c that crew came from my VK3601 with about 380 battles, of which probably 150+ where after it was elite and I think I have over 150 battles on my E-75 already. So they are my only crew with over 500+ battles under thier belt.

 

[LurkerPrime]

@ Lurker,

yea i've had my obj 212 now for a good month? and i'm barely at 90k xp now, and i need 311k..... i find the obj 212 a downgrade from the s-51. it holds more ammo and has more health but health doesn't matter as you still get 1 shot often.

You get a slight upgrade to reload and aiming time/accuracy though with that tank I thought. Does the tank move just as slow as the S-51? Seems to take forever to move into a reasonable spot on the S-51. I only play my arty maybe 2-3 times a day for the daily double, so at that rate it'll take me months to get the tier 7. While it definately got more fun to play once I got the 203mm the long reload times and then missing are very demoralizing. I really need a rammer and the enhanced sights, but I dont play my arty enough to drop 1.1M credits on it.

 

[PowerYoga]

noob question: any advice to leveling crew faster?

I wouldn't worry about lvling your crew until you get to tier 4 or 5. You'll be throwing them out as soon as you get a new tank anyways since its too expensive to retrain them, and basic training will set them pretty much back at 50%. But otherwise... just win more and get more exp each battle by improving your tactics and tank equipment, try to keep your crew members alive with med kits since a dead man earns no exp.

Fully upgraded, the thing is an absolute beast. It is a great ramming tank and gets amazing bounces. I have taken the fire extinguisher off and tossed gas on it to help with acceleration.

If you are getting artied in a tier 9 medium, you are playing it wrong!

Problem is the E-50 seems to lose a lot of speed juking, much more so than a T-54. If the t-92 or the GW type E wants to hurt you, he will.

But for the first game yesterday, here's what happened.

1) get shot in tracks by invisible tank
2) spin around like a ballerina
3) get nuked by 4 arties before I can start moving after using a repair kit.

That being said, I need to get more games under my belt on the E-50. Can't really make more comments about the tank's handling until I feel out the tank a bit more. I'm looking forward to ramming things though!