[MMO] World of Tanks

[stag3]

is-7 by far, the e100 has sucked since the nerf

 

[PowerYoga]

I'm about 10k or so xp away from my IS-4. I'm not really looking forward to the 110k xp grind on it though to get the tracks/turret/gun. I have about 25k free xp though so I was thinking I might just buy the torsion bars for the extra load capacity and get the turret right off the bat. Then grind the gun and the tracks. That way I only have to grind out 50-60k xp till I get the gun.

After that I have to decide which tier 10 to save up and buy first. The IS-7 or the E-100? Which one do ya'll think I should get first?

Ooh, don't do that. The IS-4 is slow enough, you really shouldn't bypass the tracks just to get the gun mounted. The sluggishness will make you hate the tank.

My advice is to use free exp to get tracks if you can.

 

[Skott]

I look at the KV-5 as a damage sponge. They effectively soak up damage. They have enough hp to take the hits from the other tier 8+ tanks, and have the armor to bounce shots from all the lower tiered tanks even from the side and rear. I'm just glad the gun on it sucks and the tank is pretty damn slow. If this tank got the bl-9, it would most likely be the most feared tier 8. As it stands now though I don't fear the KV-5 at all in my IS-3 or KT.

I'm about 10k or so xp away from my IS-4. I'm not really looking forward to the 110k xp grind on it though to get the tracks/turret/gun. I have about 25k free xp though so I was thinking I might just buy the torsion bars for the extra load capacity and get the turret right off the bat. Then grind the gun and the tracks. That way I only have to grind out 50-60k xp till I get the gun.

After that I have to decide which tier 10 to save up and buy first. The IS-7 or the E-100? Which one do ya'll think I should get first?

Yeah, I see the KV5 as a mini maus type tank. It rolls out and just takes the shots while it's team mates shoot at you and their arty rain down on you as well. It also makes good creds while doing it because it can hurt with it's gun. With HE nerfed many tanks cannot effectively hurt it now. At least not greatly. I was battling it out the other night against one in my Tiger P. The KV5 was in hull down and only thing I could do(because I couldn't assault from flank) was throw HE at it. 1% or 2% damage at a time was the best I could do. AP shells just bounced. My Slugger with its 90mm gun can't do much against one unless I get on it's flanks and even the 90mm bounces off it at times. I have bounced 90mm shells off the butt of a KV5. Very frustrating. LOL

Edit: I don't see them improving the KV5 with better fire power(gun). Especially after the gripes they got with the T59. In the right hands its a tough tank to deal with as it is. It has the same cred modifiers as the T59 and Lowe and it can make really good money because of that.

 

[stag3]

i always would have thought the tier6 gun was inadequate for the kv-5, or i would have got one.

 

[mooncancook]

It would be nice if they give KV5 a slightly upgraded gun (or slightly upgraded stats for the same gun) because I fear the KTs and IS3s when I see one. I always have to work with other tanks against them or it's usually quick death. I've learned to angle the R2D2 away to make it harder to be hit, but still it's quite a big target.

 

[PowerYoga]

Got the t-29.... it's pretty sluggish, but the turret is pretty much invulnerable. Does the track and 1st make it move better?

 

[Harabec]

Got the t-29.... it's pretty sluggish, but the turret is pretty much invulnerable. Does the track and 1st make it move better?

It stays sluggish until you upgrade the engines as well. It's sluggish even fully upgraded like most heavies.

I just got the 105mm on mine and I'm not impressed by the incredibly long reload time. Need a rammer and the second turret still for added ROF still.

 

[PowerYoga]

I'm pretty familiar with sluggish tanks like the KV series, or even the tiger series before engine upgrades. But the T-29 is a different level of slow....

 

[LurkerPrime]

Well I got my IS4 yesterday and I ended up using my free xp to unlock the tracks. I got about 14k left till I get the turret, then a horrible 63k grind for the gun. I find that the tank plays just like the IS3, just slightly more slugish. The tank does seem to bounce alot of shots, however most of the higher tiered tanks know to just shoot you in the center pike on the front when at closer ranges.

 

[Nintendesert]

Well I got my IS4 yesterday and I ended up using my free xp to unlock the tracks. I got about 14k left till I get the turret, then a horrible 63k grind for the gun. I find that the tank plays just like the IS3, just slightly more slugish. The tank does seem to bounce alot of shots, however most of the higher tiered tanks know to just shoot you in the center pike on the front when at closer ranges.

It plays nothing like the IS-3.


The IS-3 and IS-7 are similar and built similarly. The IS-4 is something entirely different. You have to play it differently and the way you angle your armor is completely different.

There is NO center pike. You facing an opponent head on like you need to in the IS-3 and IS-7 to maximize your armor's slope will result in them getting a very easy shot on your driver port.

You need to always hide that driver port and the shoulder armor in the front. You need to use your side armor which is just as thick as your front armor. Look back a few pages and you'll see a link I posted that shows a picture of the proper way to angle your side armor to bounce rounds and protect that very vulnerable frontal armor.

It's probably why the IS-4 is getting removed from the IS-3 to IS-7 line in the Russian tree, it really is a very big departure from the mobile fast heavy tanks and more like the KV series.

 

[PowerYoga]

agreed. The IS-4's sides are savage. I have problems penetrating them with the 12.8 at a distance if they're angled sufficiently. Like others have said, your front is actually the weakest part with the 100mm driver port. Your side armor is STRONGER than your driver's hatch and lower glacis, which makes up 1/2 of your frontal armor. Encourage them to shoot the side armor, worst you'll get normally is a broken track unless they have a tier 10 gun.

Just got the AMX13-90's good gun yesterday... and what a radical departure from the 75mm gun. The gun takes about a whole minute to load and the aim time is so much worse. What do you guys do while this thing is reloading? just run around scouting?

 

[stag3]

im debating on getting the amx13-75 as my amx12t crew is barely at 85%
should i just hop over at 75% after retraining? or wait until they hit 100% and bring them in at 90%?

the amx12t is horrible, does shit damage

 

[PowerYoga]

I thought the 12t was fun after you got the top gun. Still doesn't have pen values to kill heavies but you could reliably kill mediums from the side. Just move over to the 13-75 and get the good gun ASAP, the thing is crazy good for its tier.

 

[stag3]

done, just sold my 12x and got the 13-75

what modules do you think we should use for the batchat?

gun laying drive, vents and XXXX ?

i might as well get modules now and just xfer them from the 1375 to 1390 to lorraine and batchat

 

[PowerYoga]

i've been using vents, GLD and camo. Remember the role of your tank is a support gun platform/scout. The 13-75 can get up to 60 something km/h. The scouting module setup is fine for the lights but I think the batchat won't have much use for the camo. Others prefer coated optics or the binocs, I have a pair of binocs but i don't have enough games in the 13-90 to warrant good reviews yet. The 13-90 can't mount the vstab though, not sure if the lorraine or batchat could.

The problem with crew swapping.... lorraine is a medium. When you train your crew you'll lose 15% (20%? Not sure) if you're not using gold. So I plan to keep my 13-90 and just buy the lorraine/batchat spanking new with a new crew.

 

[stag3]

ah good point about the crew damnit.

i found i had binocs, cammo net and rammer sitting in my depot
i mounted the binocs and net on the 1375 for now.

im guessing like other tanks i can't mount the new gun w/o tracks first, i can only unlock the 2nd engine, but i'll wait on that, and get tracks/gun then engine

 

[PowerYoga]

pretty sure you can mount the gun before track. Double check your weight, the stock gun is only like 200kg lighter.

The 13-90 can mount the 90mm without new tracks along with 3 modules.

 

[stag3]

cool ill get the gun first

 

[eLiu]

Just got the AMX13-90's good gun yesterday... and what a radical departure from the 75mm gun. The gun takes about a whole minute to load and the aim time is so much worse. What do you guys do while this thing is reloading? just run around scouting?

Do you dislike the 13 90? I've elited the 13 75 but I haven't bought the 90 yet. I love the 75 though; that little thing kicks ass. Cruise around at max speed, finding low health enemies behind cover, and shouting FINISH HIM before ramming shells up their ass

Also, new question... I have T34, E-75, and IS-4 recently unlocked. As you can see I'm playing all lines at once & don't really have a target in mind (maybe slightly favoring IS-7? meh). I have about 5mil credits & 100k free xp. Which tank(s) should I get and how should I distribute the xp?
T34: I'm thinking I'll wait for the patch & grind US tier9 with the new tier9
E-75: I heard this sucks w/o tracks/turret/gun... but that's 110k xp :/
IS-4: heard the stock tank is the best of the 3. But the stock turret seems dangerously squishy. 50k xp to get tracks/turret; 110k xp if I want the gun too.

Not sure which tank to get nor how to distribute my free xp

 

[Binky]

Also, new question... I have T34, E-75, and IS-4 recently unlocked. As you can see I'm playing all lines at once & don't really have a target in mind (maybe slightly favoring IS-7? meh). I have about 5mil credits & 100k free xp. Which tank(s) should I get and how should I distribute the xp?
T34: I'm thinking I'll wait for the patch & grind US tier9 with the new tier9
E-75: I heard this sucks w/o tracks/turret/gun... but that's 110k xp :/
IS-4: heard the stock tank is the best of the 3. But the stock turret seems dangerously squishy. 50k xp to get tracks/turret; 110k xp if I want the gun too.

Not sure which tank to get nor how to distribute my free xp

You have to buy the T34 to get the free premium tank. You'd be crazy not to buy that one first. The patch was supposed to be "in February."

Then, buy the IS-4 since it is also splitting, which would give you another free tank in a future patch.

 

[stag3]

T34 first for sure, then is-4 and e75

 

[PowerYoga]

Do you dislike the 13 90? I've elited the 13 75 but I haven't bought the 90 yet. I love the 75 though; that little thing kicks ass. Cruise around at max speed, finding low health enemies behind cover, and shouting FINISH HIM before ramming shells up their ass

Also, new question... I have T34, E-75, and IS-4 recently unlocked. As you can see I'm playing all lines at once & don't really have a target in mind (maybe slightly favoring IS-7? meh). I have about 5mil credits & 100k free xp. Which tank(s) should I get and how should I distribute the xp?
T34: I'm thinking I'll wait for the patch & grind US tier9 with the new tier9
E-75: I heard this sucks w/o tracks/turret/gun... but that's 110k xp :/
IS-4: heard the stock tank is the best of the 3. But the stock turret seems dangerously squishy. 50k xp to get tracks/turret; 110k xp if I want the gun too.

Not sure which tank to get nor how to distribute my free xp

I only had a few games in the 13-90 but the gun takes some getting used to. It's not a high velocity gun, it's medium velocity so you need to lead and account for shell drops a bit. The reload is 35 seconds instead of 15, but it has a lot more hp to eat shells with. However, the matchmaking tosses you in as a tier 8.5, which means you'll see mice and is-7s quite often.

Can't speak for the T-34 but the E-75 is PAINFUL to lug around without the top engine. It's as slow as a KV-3 and turns like one. When I played it i immediately used free exp for the turret and gun. Played 2 more games and used more free exp for the engine.

E-75 is not fun without the final engine. With the engine you become Tiger III. Agile, nimble, and great at relocating. You can also ram shit for 100 damage a piece.

IS-4: Squishy stock turret, I always lol if I see it. Get the Turret and S-70 ASAP. This thing is sluggish with or without the tracks, but it has great pickup once you start traveling in a straight line. It's pretty light for its tier, so be wary of ramming E-50s and bigger tanks like the maus and E-100. When I got this tank many moons ago I immediately got the turret and s-70 with free exp. Zero. regrets. The S-70 is so lovely. BL-9 is not bad but you WILL have a tough time with other tier 9s with its penetration value. Especially vs E-75s which the other team is inevitably going to have 1 of. Forget penetrating other IS-4s from the front.

 

[eLiu]

You have to buy the T34 to get the free premium tank. You'd be crazy not to buy that one first. The patch was supposed to be "in February."

Then, buy the IS-4 since it is also splitting, which would give you another free tank in a future patch.

It's not like they're just going to suddenly release the T34 update one day w/o any notice. I think that patch is in supertest right now; they haven't even started doing public tests yet. Public test usually lasts 1-2 weeks. If need be, I can sell some other tanks to get a T34 in time; I'm not worried. And I'll totally have the IS-4 well before patch 7.3 happens.

I want to know which tank would be the most fun to get next/where my free xp is best spent, haha.

I only had a few games in the 13-90 but the gun takes some getting used to. It's not a high velocity gun, it's medium velocity so you need to lead and account for shell drops a bit. The reload is 35 seconds instead of 15, but it has a lot more hp to eat shells with. However, the matchmaking tosses you in as a tier 8.5, which means you'll see mice and is-7s quite often.

Can't speak for the T-34 but the E-75 is PAINFUL to lug around without the top engine. It's as slow as a KV-3 and turns like one. When I played it i immediately used free exp for the turret and gun. Played 2 more games and used more free exp for the engine.

E-75 is not fun without the final engine. With the engine you become Tiger III. Agile, nimble, and great at relocating. You can also ram shit for 100 damage a piece.

IS-4: Squishy stock turret, I always lol if I see it. Get the Turret and S-70 ASAP. This thing is sluggish with or without the tracks, but it has great pickup once you start traveling in a straight line. It's pretty light for its tier, so be wary of ramming E-50s and bigger tanks like the maus and E-100. When I got this tank many moons ago I immediately got the turret and s-70 with free exp. Zero. regrets. The S-70 is so lovely. BL-9 is not bad but you WILL have a tough time with other tier 9s with its penetration value. Especially vs E-75s which the other team is inevitably going to have 1 of. Forget penetrating other IS-4s from the front.

*sigh* so what you're telling me is I don't have anywhere close to enough free xp to make the E-75 OR the IS-4 enjoyable? I'll only have enough free xp to get tracks+turret+gun on 1 tank, haha. Or tracks+turret+engine on one tank (E-75 that is).

Yeah I don't welcome the idea of running the BL-9 in tier9 but what can I do :/ At least it won't be as bad as running the T29's 105mm on the T34, LOL. Did you get the IS-4 turret+gun without the tracks? If so, which piece of equipment did you swap out for the doodad that lets you carry more weight? vents?

 

[Binky]

It's not like they're just going to suddenly release the T34 update one day w/o any notice. I think that patch is in supertest right now; they haven't even started doing public tests yet. Public test usually lasts 1-2 weeks. If need be, I can sell some other tanks to get a T34 in time; I'm not worried. And I'll totally have the IS-4 well before patch 7.3 happens.

The T34 is pretty nimble and quick, even stock. It's all about the rapid fire 120mm gun. Without it, you're in a T7 tank in most respects. It embarrassing. With the gun, you're very effective as long as nobody is shooting at you, and I mean nobody. Not even that annoying slugger, or the PZ4 that you thought couldn't hurt you (he can).

Wait for the patch and hope the hull is improved.

 

[LurkerPrime]

eLiu, be thankful you have 110k free xp and can make either the IS4 or E75 great right from the start. I only had 25k free xp when I got each one, so I could only afford the tracks and had to grind the rest out. Whichever tank you do spend all the xp on, make sure you get the gun. Once you get the gun on either, xp will just flow in. Unless I do something really stupid I can usually get 600-800xp on a loss and 1200+ on a win. Also if you have premium, once you get the gun on your tier 9, you'll only need like 3-4 hits to break even, after that your making money. I usually net 10-30k a match on my E-75.

Personally I find that the stock grind on the IS4 isn't nearly as bad as the E75. I still don't have the gun yet on the IS4, but I have the E75 fully upgraded and I love it. Also it matters which tier 10 you want to go for first. Most people seem to believe the IS7>E100, so just spend your xp accordingly to get you to the tank you want to play.

On a side note I got a scout medal for the first time in a very long time. Best part is, I got it on my E-75. I went up the middle on lakeville, ended up getting confederate, scout, sniper and steel wall and made 88K credits (which is most likely a record since I dont have a premium tank).