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biostud

Lifer
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Which tank line would you recommend for brawling?

I'm slowly working my way through the British medium, heavy and TD line, and I liked the TD line up to Tortoise, but I actually think it has more fun when the front armor had the ability to bounce shots in the lower Tiers. So which lines would you recommend for running the front line?
 

PowerYoga

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British mediums aren't very good at brawling general with the exception of the cromwell. They're mostly sniper tanks. Russian mediums are good brawlers, and chinese tanks are also good brawlers on flat ground seeing how they're pretty much exact copies of the russians, but they're a bit different in terms of guns and dispersions and whatnot.

American medium tanks are also very good brawlers, the pershing is one of the best in its tier for brawling.
 

Daverino

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Which tank line would you recommend for brawling?

I'm slowly working my way through the British medium, heavy and TD line, and I liked the TD line up to Tortoise, but I actually think it has more fun when the front armor had the ability to bounce shots in the lower Tiers. So which lines would you recommend for running the front line?

The tier 10 British TD, the 183, is known as the Death Star. If you can afford to run it with pure premium, the thing is a monster. I've seen it one-shot a full health IS-7. It is not a brawler, of course. The reload is terrible.

The British medium and heavy line both peak at tier eight, and that's not saying much. The mediums are not very mobile and have relatively bad DPM and no armor to speak of. Worst, though, is they have ammo racks in the front hull, so a normal frontal penetrating shot can rack you. The 7/1 is better than the Centurion, but at T9 it's going to get mangled by the matchmaker. The tier 10 is widely considered the worst T10 medium in the game and is rumored to be up for replacement. The heavy line has no appreciable armor as well. So it has to play as a medium tank as far as safety goes. The Conqueror has no side armor, so you will get overmatched on the sides if you try to back out for a shot. The turret will get penetrated by most T10 guns and certainly by premium shells. There are few places the British heavies can fight safely.
 

biostud

Lifer
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The tier 10 British TD, the 183, is known as the Death Star. If you can afford to run it with pure premium, the thing is a monster. I've seen it one-shot a full health IS-7. It is not a brawler, of course. The reload is terrible.

The British medium and heavy line both peak at tier eight, and that's not saying much. The mediums are not very mobile and have relatively bad DPM and no armor to speak of. Worst, though, is they have ammo racks in the front hull, so a normal frontal penetrating shot can rack you. The 7/1 is better than the Centurion, but at T9 it's going to get mangled by the matchmaker. The tier 10 is widely considered the worst T10 medium in the game and is rumored to be up for replacement. The heavy line has no appreciable armor as well. So it has to play as a medium tank as far as safety goes. The Conqueror has no side armor, so you will get overmatched on the sides if you try to back out for a shot. The turret will get penetrated by most T10 guns and certainly by premium shells. There are few places the British heavies can fight safely.

In the medium tiers V-VII the British TD and heavy seem to have pretty good bouncy armor, but the higher levels seems to be more geared towards support/sniping tanks.
 

Possessed Freak

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The tier 10 British TD, the 183, is known as the Death Star. If you can afford to run it with pure premium, the thing is a monster. I've seen it one-shot a full health IS-7. It is not a brawler, of course. The reload is terrible.

I have one, it is great fun. Today the enemy let me fire 8 shots. It was bad for them. I did 7k damage and one was a 70HP direct hit on a 704 that hit his gun barrel as he looked at me.

To say it can't brawl is true, but it can certainly take a corner with authority. NOBODY wants to be the one shot by that thing.
 

stag3

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wow mm was kinda to me today, rocked a 75% w/r. i've been playing only the tanks im grinding so 9 and below.

finally free xp'd to the 113 so i could get the top gun on the wz-120 unlocked. doubt i'll buy the 113 however. the WZ i'll be keeping.
 

datalink7

Lifer
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wow mm was kinda to me today, rocked a 75% w/r. i've been playing only the tanks im grinding so 9 and below.

finally free xp'd to the 113 so i could get the top gun on the wz-120 unlocked. doubt i'll buy the 113 however. the WZ i'll be keeping.

That was like yesterday for me. I went from 52.79 percent to 53.04 overall.

Then today I lost 10 in a row, and about 16/20 overall :/
 

stag3

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my typical day of tanks.

lose first 3 always, no matter what i do, doesnt matter if 70+% win chance in xvm.
win 1 here and there, get on a 7 loss in a row string. eek my way back up to 50% and quit so it doesn't go down any more
 

PowerYoga

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In the medium tiers V-VII the British TD and heavy seem to have pretty good bouncy armor, but the higher levels seems to be more geared towards support/sniping tanks.

Churchills are the biggest joke, with the exception of the BP. Their "thick" armor is literally a tiny thin strip in the middle of the hull, everywhere else is more or less auto-pen with the same tier gun. The lower glacis plate is also HUGE, and I think it has a driver in it. Even the turret has pretty thin armor with the exception of the auto-bounce gun mantlet. The downside to the BP is that it gets matched up to tier 9s, which blow apart its armor like its nothing. Even tier 8s have no problems penning it frontally. It's a bully if it gets into a t7 match though.

When me and my friend play and we see a churchill, this is generally how our conversation goes:

"Oh a churchill, shoot it anywhere".

And the tank destroyers... shoot the tumor. It's huge and it's an auto pen from same tier guns.
 

Daverino

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I have one, it is great fun. Today the enemy let me fire 8 shots. It was bad for them. I did 7k damage and one was a 70HP direct hit on a 704 that hit his gun barrel as he looked at me.

To say it can't brawl is true, but it can certainly take a corner with authority. NOBODY wants to be the one shot by that thing.

Sigh. I really should finish up that line.

Right now I'm strangely obsessed with the Conqueror. It's probably the worst T9 heavy tank I've played with the exception of the IS-8. But the 120mm L1A1 is maybe one of the best guns I've ever used. It hits hard, is insanely accurate and fire really really fast. Premium penetration is an excellent 326 mm. Given the right circumstances, it can put out 3-5,000 damage in a game.

But it is very explodey. Trying to get your gun into play means exposing yourself and a small screw up will send you back to the garage. It's one of the most bipolar tanks I've played yet.
 

datalink7

Lifer
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Sigh. I really should finish up that line.

Right now I'm strangely obsessed with the Conqueror. It's probably the worst T9 heavy tank I've played with the exception of the IS-8. But the 120mm L1A1 is maybe one of the best guns I've ever used. It hits hard, is insanely accurate and fire really really fast. Premium penetration is an excellent 326 mm. Given the right circumstances, it can put out 3-5,000 damage in a game.

But it is very explodey. Trying to get your gun into play means exposing yourself and a small screw up will send you back to the garage. It's one of the most bipolar tanks I've played yet.

That's basically what quickybaby said. Weakly armored tank with a monster gun. He actually quite likes it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNdR0hJqf58
 

biostud

Lifer
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If you have problem with crashes this might work. It seems to have worked for me.

a. Click Start -> Type CMD -> Right click on CMD from the result -> Click Run as Administrator

b. Run the following command one at a time and press enter to execute

• cd /d %windir%\system32\wbem

• for %i in (*.dll) do regsvr32 -s %i

• for %i in (*.exe) do %i /regserver

c. Close all windows and reboot the computer and now try opening the system information

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...code-126/1202e348-5964-e011-8dfc-68b599b31bf5
 

stag3

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lol like clockwork, lost first 3 games already... sigh

first 2 games were 32% and 34% win chances, 3rd was 42% and i get team hit and my gun destroyed @ spawn right when everyone starts moving out.....
 

datalink7

Lifer
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Got my first Radley Walters yesterday. 9 kills in a Panzer IV H with Derp gun. Lucky to be one of only three Tier V's per side, so it was pretty much a 1 shot, 1 kill.

I had been having a horrible day of doing well, but being on such bad teams that I sill lost. Previous game I was in my Tiger I in a Tier IX game, with me being one of the only two Tier VII's, and I did 4k damage and 3 kills and my team still lost due to being stupid. So when I loaded up the derp I decided to just throw gold down as I really didn't care.

Here is the replay (if anyone is interested)

http://replays.quickybaby.com/result.php?id=6213
 

PowerYoga

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Trying to figure out which lines to flesh out right now. I don't have much interest in the waffle series (by the time I get to the good tanks it'll be nerfed to shit) and the british medium and AT line sucks with the exception fo the 183. (same with brit heavies, the crew is manning my tog right now)

I don't have any real interest in t10 battles either, so I'm kind of in a rut.
 

PowerYoga

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I have the KV and used to have the hellcat, but I'm done with hellcat. Not because it's a bad tank, but it's just not influential enough and I have enough glass-cannons in my garage already.
 

Daverino

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I made a challenge to myself a few months ago to get my Birch Gun win rate up to 58% before I sold it, knowing how terrible the thing is. Failed miserably, wrecked my win rate and WIN8 in the process. Finally gave up.

Now I have the FV304.

Wow.

This thing is the MOST fun I've had playing WoT in AGES. It is utterly unlike any other vehicle I've ever driven. It has the speed of an AMX-12t and a short range, fast firing, hyper-accurate mortar. You need to get close to the enemy to even hit them, but this thing makes ridiculous shots! And if things go to crap, you don't have to sit in base and wait to die. Screw it, warp engines engaged and you can cap the other team out instead!

Love it.
 

stag3

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damn i've been wanting an fv304 for awhile but have no desire to grind everything past that. even tho i do want a GC
 

datalink7

Lifer
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I have the KV and used to have the hellcat, but I'm done with hellcat. Not because it's a bad tank, but it's just not influential enough and I have enough glass-cannons in my garage already.

I heavily disagree on the Hellcat not being influential enough. It's considered a top10 tank in the game for a reason.

The British Medium line has some great tanks. The Tier X sucks, but you said you weren't interested in Tier X anyway. The Centurion 7/1 and Comet are both outstanding with the right play.

I also love my Ferdinand for Tier XIII TD's, and of course the Rhm. is good. Problem with the Rhm is that the Tier VII in that line is HORRIBLE to grind with the stock gun, and the top gun is a lot of XP to get.

French Light Tanks are fun as well. I had fun with the ELC, 12T, 13 75 (despite most other people disliking this one), and 13 90. Batchat at Tier X is fun as well.
 

Fallen Kell

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Trying to figure out which lines to flesh out right now. I don't have much interest in the waffle series (by the time I get to the good tanks it'll be nerfed to shit) and the british medium and AT line sucks with the exception fo the 183. (same with brit heavies, the crew is manning my tog right now)

I don't have any real interest in t10 battles either, so I'm kind of in a rut.

I have tons of fun in my KV-1, ISU-152, S-51 (well in a sadistic kind of way when you get a full pen and one shot a full health tank from across the map), and even my Jadgtiger. The KV-1 is by far so much fun to play. I think I have almost 2k battles in that tank alone.

I don't know why you don't see many S-51's out there. Sure its reloads take forever, and so is the aim time, but it hits like a tier 9. I almost always out damage all other arty in a match. You just need to know the maps well and know where to pre-aim. Too many players think they are safe if they don't sit in a spot too long after they were spotted, but that is when I get them because I am already pre-aimed at one of the many well known spots that tanks congregate at, and BAM, -1000 to 1850 hp from you the moment you get lit up by the scouts...
 
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datalink7

Lifer
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I have the S-51. My only arty. Only have it because it came off the KV-2 line, which I love and play a lot.

S-51 isn't bad. I played it a lot more before unlocking top gun. Now I bust it out a few times a week. I'm just not a big fan of playing Arty.
 

Daverino

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I also love my Ferdinand for Tier XIII TD's, and of course the Rhm. is good. Problem with the Rhm is that the Tier VII in that line is HORRIBLE to grind with the stock gun, and the top gun is a lot of XP to get.

I'll never say that the Sturer Emil (aka Pizza Souffle) is a great TD. It's not. BUT it's not a complete dog. It has a very unique style of play. The gun is mounted very very high in the superstructure and it has an insane 15 degrees of gun depression. You NEED to fight on the back slope of a hill to be effective in this. The gun mounting and great depression allow you to approach the ridgeline, take a shot exposing almost NONE of your vehicle, and then quickly reverse while you reload. A 'pop and drop' if you will.

In the right spot in the right circumstances, the Sturer can be excellent. The problem, of course, is that it doesn't get the right spot and right circumstances in every match. A flat map or city map like Ruinberg or Himmelsdorf are terrible maps for the Sturer. It is too slow and too poorly armored to prevent itself from being overrun in a city. And if you hang out in more open areas, you'll find you don't have many targets. You choose between going into harms way and dying quickly, or camping in an ineffective spot and dying alone at the end.
 

biostud

Lifer
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Just got the centurion mk. I

Most positive about it, is that it reverses as fast as it drives forwards
 
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