[MMO] World of Tanks

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lupi

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Then match making must be kind for you. I can go days playing and have my name show up in the bottom 4 of the team list at start which means even in a maxxed out vehicle anything other than track or rear hits won't do anything.
 

Stuka87

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Then match making must be kind for you. I can go days playing and have my name show up in the bottom 4 of the team list at start which means even in a maxxed out vehicle anything other than track or rear hits won't do anything.

Depends a lot on your vehicle class. In my Chaffee I get all my exp from scouting and tracking. I only get kills if there are T4/5 tanks I can pen. Which is typically the other teams scouts.

In my Tiger, I always get kills, even in T9 games. I just don't get many T9 tank kills. But will get other T7/8 kills.
 

PowerYoga

Diamond Member
Nov 6, 2001
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i've found hitting the very top of the tracks when head on, will track + damage most of the time. side shots hitting the front sprocket will track + damage also.

Depends on the tank and if your angle allows the shot to continue into the tank. In a horizontal engagement 99% of the time that will just track the other guy's tank. Plus you have to remember the tracks act as spaced armor, so HEAT will get eaten and your normal AP rounds will lose some penetration value.

Both front and back sprockets are equally weak though. Just don't shoot the middle unless you have a BL-10 or something.

also 99% of my shots are AP rounds. I only use gold when I have no choice or if I run a shit tank that has abysmal pen values for its tier. (churchill VII comes to mind).
 

stag3

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yea i'm using ap or apcr 99.9% of the time
if it wasn't for the t54 and e100, i'd never use heat at all hahaha

i've found it's pretty easy in another tier X at least, to track + dmg an e3 consistently if he's facing you for the most part by hitting the top of tracks.
if you can track him just outside his gun angle, you can just repeat until he's dead with a medium due to the fast reload
 

datalink7

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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I actually didn't mind the T95. Somehow I have 600 games in it. Though, I haven't played in a long time.
 

Fallen Kell

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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The T95 can be a beast if you have backup. Even just a T28 or T34 pressed against your rear-end (and helping push you when you need to move) is very useful. Most things can't pen you from the front, which means you are now protecting the weak spot on the front armor of the T28 or T34. And they are tall enough that they can shoot over you to finish off something, or give pause to a person thinking of trying to flank. Only things that are a threat are fast tier 9-10 mediums/lights, but then again, they were always a threat and now you at least have something to hug/rear scrap to get it off your rear and possibly force a shot.
 

lupi

Lifer
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Had a realy good game in a tier 3 arty against a bunch of fives. Ended up with a 1 badge getting big point tallies for tracking 2 kv-1 and a t1 heavy where they died before being repaired and added a couple module hits on a t34.
 

slag

Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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I've done a complete 180. I now include 4 gold rounds as part of my loadout. It's been a huge game changer for me in a couple rounds. I did have 3 bounce off an IS-3, but it happens from time to time. 3500 more and I'll have the 105 mm gun on the T25-AT.

My favorite machine in the game is still the T40 though with the 105 mm cannon. Kills many tanks with one shot and those it doesnt, it puts a hurting on. Yes, it has a long reload time, but the damage it puts out is incredible.
 
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Possessed Freak

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I've done a complete 180. I now include 4 gold rounds as part of my loadout. It's been a huge game changer for me in a couple rounds. I did have 3 bounce off an IS-3, but it happens from time to time. 3500 more and I'll have the 105 mm gun on the T25-AT.

There is no reason to not put more premium rounds in tanks. If you don't use em, you save the credits, if you need them... you have them. The only time you have to be careful with loadout is when you burn through your default ammo quickly (low total ammo count) and you shoot premium rounds at tanks that it is overkill on.

The other exception is when the premium shell is HEAT and that may not be an advantage. This happens a lot with top tier medium/lights. A Batchat's default round is APCR, the premium shell is HEAT. If you are shooting HEAT at spaced armor/tracks then it has a great chance to do nothing.
 

skipsneeky2

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May 21, 2011
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Anyone had the pleasure of the German Heavy tank grind to the E100?Hows it fair compared to Russian Heavy?I know the E100 gun itself has better pen+damage but overall playability how is it?I hear the 130mm on the IS-7 bounces a bit and stats do show slightly less pen over the BL-9 122 from the IS-8.

Currently sitting with the D.W.2,this thing is beyond painful.I stopped grinding it a bit back but decided to punish myself assuming the grind ends well.
 

Possessed Freak

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Anyone had the pleasure of the German Heavy tank grind to the E100?Hows it fair compared to Russian Heavy?I know the E100 gun itself has better pen+damage but overall playability how is it?I hear the 130mm on the IS-7 bounces a bit and stats do show slightly less pen over the BL-9 122 from the IS-8.

Currently sitting with the D.W.2,this thing is beyond painful.I stopped grinding it a bit back but decided to punish myself assuming the grind ends well.

The E100 is a dream, the E75 is damn good. It has been a LONG time since I played the Tiger 2.

But the problem with the E100, you need to shoot a lot of premium shells out of it... AND those shells are HEAT. Really makes you aim.
 

slag

Lifer
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There is no reason to not put more premium rounds in tanks. If you don't use em, you save the credits, if you need them... you have them. The only time you have to be careful with loadout is when you burn through your default ammo quickly (low total ammo count) and you shoot premium rounds at tanks that it is overkill on.

The other exception is when the premium shell is HEAT and that may not be an advantage. This happens a lot with top tier medium/lights. A Batchat's default round is APCR, the premium shell is HEAT. If you are shooting HEAT at spaced armor/tracks then it has a great chance to do nothing.

I don't want to load out more than 4 because I'll use them and start losing money.
 

PowerYoga

Diamond Member
Nov 6, 2001
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Anyone had the pleasure of the German Heavy tank grind to the E100?Hows it fair compared to Russian Heavy?I know the E100 gun itself has better pen+damage but overall playability how is it?I hear the 130mm on the IS-7 bounces a bit and stats do show slightly less pen over the BL-9 122 from the IS-8.

Currently sitting with the D.W.2,this thing is beyond painful.I stopped grinding it a bit back but decided to punish myself assuming the grind ends well.

The IS7 gun is probably one of the worst guns out of the tier 10 guns comparatively. That's not to say it's terrible, but it's overall lackluster and really requires aiming. It's a brawling gun on a tank that really shouldn't brawl too much (the pike armor loses effectiveness with angle and the IS7 is most effective hulled down and the side armor is shit). It was a decent gun back when it was on the IS4 but it's not great on the IS7.

Haven't gone through the new german heavy line but the tiger 1 and 2 both play as snipers, while the E75 is intimidating and a great brawler. (the gun sucks at long distance)

I don't want to load out more than 4 because I'll use them and start losing money.

You don't worry about money when you shoot premium rounds, you shoot them because you want to win.
 

skipsneeky2

Diamond Member
May 21, 2011
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The IS7 gun is probably one of the worst guns out of the tier 10 guns comparatively. That's not to say it's terrible, but it's overall lackluster and really requires aiming. It's a brawling gun on a tank that really shouldn't brawl too much (the pike armor loses effectiveness with angle and the IS7 is most effective hulled down and the side armor is shit). It was a decent gun back when it was on the IS4 but it's not great on the IS7.

This sums up about everything my buddy mentioned about it,sounds nearly like my experience with the IS-3.Maybe i will grind it to IS-8,get that BL-9 122 and call it a day huh?I'm about 58k xp away.

IDK how many head on brawls i have had with E75 and E100 but they pen me so easily in my IS-3 head on but i do nothing but bounce with my IS-3.That is why i was thinking that perhaps the way i play that maybe the German tanks may be more my style.IS-8 might be slightly better but its top gun appears to have the best pen out of the entire line.
 

PowerYoga

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That's because the E75 is arguably one of the hardest tanks in the game with very decent side armor as well. The E100 is tough to pen if you don't know where to shoot one, but the BL9 is good enough to pen both, though I wouldn't say reliably. You really need to aim or go for flanking shots, or better yet go fight something that's not +1 and +2 tiers. Both tanks have huge guns that will destroy your armor and you shouldn't expect to bounce any tier 9-10 guns in general with your is3. But the IS3 is probably the best tier 8 heavy tank. Well rounded, good gun, good speed, decent armor. It was one of my favorite tanks.

The IS8 is basically a big medium with a great gun, but the armor is shit at the tier. The gun is really good though but I sold it, didn't like the whole "heavy as a medium" thing.
 

slag

Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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The IS7 gun is probably one of the worst guns out of the tier 10 guns comparatively. That's not to say it's terrible, but it's overall lackluster and really requires aiming. It's a brawling gun on a tank that really shouldn't brawl too much (the pike armor loses effectiveness with angle and the IS7 is most effective hulled down and the side armor is shit). It was a decent gun back when it was on the IS4 but it's not great on the IS7.

Haven't gone through the new german heavy line but the tiger 1 and 2 both play as snipers, while the E75 is intimidating and a great brawler. (the gun sucks at long distance)



You don't worry about money when you shoot premium rounds, you shoot them because you want to win.

I shoot them to get a decent score so i can upgrade my gun, whether my team is winning or losing. More damage = higher score = more exp.
 

skipsneeky2

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The IS8 is basically a big medium with a great gun, but the armor is shit at the tier. The gun is really good though but I sold it, didn't like the whole "heavy as a medium" thing.

Sounds almost like my T34-3 medium,i will most likely grind to IS-8 then work on my German line.I like my IS-3 but my buddy really hated that IS-7.I have had a bit of fun with this line.
 

clok1966

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A bit off topic, I use Aslains modpack, not all of it, but I would really like my WIN8 AFTER a battle, I watch Quickybaby's vids and he has it in th after game stats so I know its a mod, anybody have any idea what it is? Is it in Aslians pack and I am not just turning it on, or is there some pack i can install?

I have (in pubs) gave up on anything but doing my best and trying to improve, dang monkey squads can be so frustrating, trying to improve as im middle of the pack player but when matches are over in 4 minutes or teams lemming train and then stall when they (7-8 tanks) hit 1-2 dug in ones and they don't overwhelm um.. Man I love the game, but it can frustrate the hell out of you when you see 22K games played player and a win8 of 224 and they are top tier tank on your side.
 

JumBie

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A bit off topic, I use Aslains modpack, not all of it, but I would really like my WIN8 AFTER a battle, I watch Quickybaby's vids and he has it in th after game stats so I know its a mod, anybody have any idea what it is? Is it in Aslians pack and I am not just turning it on, or is there some pack i can install?

I have (in pubs) gave up on anything but doing my best and trying to improve, dang monkey squads can be so frustrating, trying to improve as im middle of the pack player but when matches are over in 4 minutes or teams lemming train and then stall when they (7-8 tanks) hit 1-2 dug in ones and they don't overwhelm um.. Man I love the game, but it can frustrate the hell out of you when you see 22K games played player and a win8 of 224 and they are top tier tank on your side.

I previously used the vanilla version of this mod http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index....sen-coloured-messages-session-statistics-eng/

Works great and gives you all the info you need. However I found after uninstalling XVM and session stat mods I started to do a lot better and win more games.
 

clok1966

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I previously used the vanilla version of this mod http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index....sen-coloured-messages-session-statistics-eng/

Works great and gives you all the info you need. However I found after uninstalling XVM and session stat mods I started to do a lot better and win more games.

thanks will look into it. I do get what you are saying. XVM can be a bad thing maybe more then it can be a good thing, alot of negative waves when you see that win chance below 40% before the game starts. I use it to try support people going against the better players, and more then anything to watch how I improve, im only at 4k battles tier 5 avg, in the last 2-300 battles i have raised my win 8 almost 200 points (still yellow, but another hundred I will be green). I do see tanks/tier make a HUGE difference. I also am jack of all tanks, master of none.. I am leveling 22 tanks.. I just play each till i get my 2X. I know i get in my t49, hellcat, my Win8 is almost double all my other tanks (so tempting to just drive those when you se guys with purple win8's in um then see they have 10K battles just in that tank you know its more tank then player), seems speed is my strength.. put me in those 5-6 tier slow heavies and im just barely keeping over my win8 avg.. not really gaining, not losing.
 

Possessed Freak

Diamond Member
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I shoot them to get a decent score so i can upgrade my gun, whether my team is winning or losing. More damage = higher score = more exp.
The bonus to winning is significantly better than the bonus of damage and losing.

I don't switch to premium rounds until I know I have to punch through hard targets at range, or I am in super carry mode (can't afford to bounce once).

There are exceptions, I shoot almost all premium rounds out of the E100, 183, and the mighty M3 Lee. I barely ever shoot premium rounds out of TDs (except the 183).
 

PowerYoga

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fast punchy tanks can relocate and influence the tide of the battle better. In a slow tank you're committed to one side and you're fucked if a flank falls or if you stall because of big TDs. Fast + good firepower beats out good firepower + armor most of the time.

It's no surprise the leo 1 is a favorite amongst good players.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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Some pubs have such bad tactical analysis. I was in a match on a map with 3 main lines of advance, tucked my arty in a spot and watched only a single TD move up to attempt and block the right wing path. Couple minutes into the match the TD goes down, I'm overrun shortly after and the other idiots either continue to meander among the map or get picked off one by one as they get near our flag getting capped.
 
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