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gammaray

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it will just be a new form of pita. I watched videos posted by unicums on YouTube and i guess i will not play the game much more.
 

Stuka87

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it will just be a new form of pita. I watched videos posted by unicums on YouTube and i guess i will not play the game much more.

You are welcome to make that choice. But with the games I have played with the revised arty, I feel no need to constantly hide in Tier 10 games that have arty. Also, many of the videos on youtube are putting out some incorrect information. One of the ones I have seen that is correct is from DezGaming.
 

Stuka87

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9.17.1 goes live in Russia on the 22nd, so should go live for the rest of us on the 23rd. HUGE number of re-balance changes coming in this patch, and the new german heavy line (forking off from the Tiger P). No arty changes in this patch.

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Changed technical characteristics of the following vehicles:

Centurion Mk. I
Changed the reloading time of OQF 20-pdr Gun Type A Barrel for the second turret from 8 s to 7.5 s
Changed the top speed from 40 km/h to 50 km/h

Centurion Mk. 7/1
Changed the reloading time of the 105 mm Royal Ordnance L7A1 gun for the second turret from 12 s to 11.2 s
Changed the top speed from 40 km/h to 50 km/h

FV4202
Changed the top speed from 40 km/h to 50 km/h

Panther
Changed the reloading time of the 7,5 cm Kw.K. L/100 gun for the second turret from 4.4 s to 4 s
Changed the reloading time of the 7,5 cm Kw.K. L/100 gun for the second turret is changed from 4.6 s to 4.2 s

Tiger I
Changed penetration of the Pzgr 40 shell for the 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 gun from 171 mm to 194 mm
Increased armor of mantlets for all guns of the second turret

Tiger (P)  
Increased armor of mantlets for all guns of both turrets
Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger
Changed the engine power of 12 cylinder Boxer-Motor from 140 h.p. to 220 h.p.

Grille 15
Changed the reloading time for the 15 cm Pak L/63 gun from 16.5 s to 18 s
Changed the gun depression angle for the 15 cm Pak L/63 gun from -8 degrees to -7 degrees
Changed the reverse speed from 20 km/h to 15 km/h
Changed the engine power of Maybach NL 234 from 900 h.p. to 850 h.p.

VK 36.01 (H)
Changed penetration of the Pzgr 40 shell for the 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 gun from 171 mm to 194 mm

Jagdpanzer IV
Changed penetration of the Pzgr 40 shell for the 8,8 cm Pak L/56 gun from 171 mm to 194 mm

Jagdpanther
Changed penetration of the Pzgr 40 shell for the 8,8 cm Pak L/56 gun from 171 mm to 194 mm

VK 30.02 (D)
Changed the turret traverse speed of the second turret from 30 deg/s to 45 deg/s
Changed the turret traverse speed of the first turret from 32 deg/s to 45 deg/s
Changed penetration of the Pzgr 40 shell for the 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 gun from 171 mm to 194 mm
Changed the top speed from 56 km/h to 60 km/h
Changed the engine power of MB 507 from 720 h.p. to 800 h.p.

VK 30.01 (P)
Decreased dispersion of all guns during movement for the first suspension from 0.28 to 0.25
Decreased dispersion of all guns on hull traverse for the first suspension from 0.28 to 0.25
Decreased dispersion of all guns during movement for the second suspension from 0.25 to 0.22
Decreased dispersion of all guns on hull traverse for the second suspension from 0.25 to 0.22
Decreased dispersion on turret traverse for the 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 gun for the first turret from 0.18 to 0.16
Decreased dispersion on turret traverse for the 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 gun for the second turret from 0.16 to 0.15
Changed penetration of the Pzgr 40 shell for the 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 gun from 171 mm to 194 mm
Changed the vehicle durability, when the first turret is mounted, from 610 to 650
Changed the vehicle durability, when the second turret is mounted, from 710 to 750
Increased armor of mantlets for all guns of the second turret

Pz.Kpfw. III/IV
Changed the reloading time of the 7,5 cm Kw.K. 40 L/48 gun for the second turret from 4.3 s to 4 s
Changed the reloading time of the 7,5 cm Kw.K. 40 L/43 gun for the second turret from 4.3 s to 4 s
Changed the view range of the first turret from 320 m to 340 m
Changed the view range of the second turret from 320 m to 350 m
Changed the vehicle durability, when the first turret is mounted, from 380 to 420
Changed the vehicle durability, when the second turret is mounted, from 440 to 480

Pz.Kpfw. V Berge-Panther Alpha and Pz.Kpfw. V Berge-Panther (only for China)
The shells are replaced with the ammunition for the 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 gun:
The Pzgr 39 (110/110) armor-piecing shell is replaced with the Pzgr 39 L (150/135) shell
The Pzgr 40 armor-piecing composite rigid shell is replaced with the Pzgr 40 L (194/135) shell
The Sprgr 18 (38/175) HE shell is repalced with the Sprgr 18 L (38/175) shell
Changed dispersion of the gun from 0.39 m to 0.37 m
Decreased dispersion after firing from 4 s to 3.5 s
Changed aiming time of the gun from 2.3 s to 2 s
Changed the view range from 350 m to 365 m
Changed the turret traverse speed from 30 deg/s to 44 deg/s

Nashorn
Changed penetration of the Pzgr 40 shell for the 8,8 cm Pak L/56 gun from 171 mm to 194 mm

Maus
Decreased dispersion during movement from 0.22 to 0.2
Decreased dispersion on hull traverse from 0.22 to 0.2
Changed dispersion of the gun from 0.38 m to 0.36 m
Changed dispersion on turret traverse from 0.06 to 0.05
Changed reloading time from 14.9 s to 12 s
Changed aiming time from 2.3 s to 2.1 s
Increased thickness of the frontal turret armor from 240 mm to 260 mm
Increased thickness of the lower armor plate on the sides from 80 mm to 140 mm
Increased thickness of hull slants from 200 mm to 250 mm

E 50
Changed dispersion of the 8,8 cm Kw.K. L/100 gun for the second turret from 0.3 to 0.29
Changed dispersion on turret traverse for the 8,8 cm Kw.K. L/100 gun for second turret from 0.12 to 0.1
Changed dispersion on turret traverse for the 8,8 cm Kw.K. L/100 gun for the first turret from 0.12 to 0.1
Changed reloading time of the 8,8 cm Kw.K. L/100 gun for the second turret from 6.6 s to 5.5 s
Changed reloading time of the 8,8 cm Kw.K. 43 L/71 gun for the second turret from 7 s to 5.5 s
Changed reloading time of the 8,8 cm Kw.K. 43 L/71 gun for the first turret from 7.3 s to 6.9 s
Changed aiming time of the 8,8 cm Kw.K. L/100 gun for the second from 2.9 s to 2 s
Changed aiming time of the 8,8 cm Kw.K. L/100 gun for the first turret from 2.9 s to 2.2 s
Changed the depression angles of all guns for both turrets from -5 degrees to -8 degrees

E 75
Decreased dispersion during movement for the first suspension from 0.24 to 0.22
Decreased dispersion during movement for the second suspension from 0.22 to 0.21
Decreased dispersion on hull traverse for the first suspension from 0.24 to 0.22
Decreased dispersion on hull traverse for the second suspension from 0.22 to 0.21
Changed dispersion of the 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L/55 gun for the second turret from 0.38 m to 0.37 m
Decreased dispersion on turret traverse for the 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L/55 gun for the second turret from 0.18 to 0.11
Changed aiming time of the 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L/55 gun for the second turret from 2.9 s to 2.4 s

E 100
Changed dispersion of the 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L/55 gun from 0.38 m to 0.36 m
Decreased dispersion on hull traverse for the 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L/55 gun from 0.1 to 0.07
Changed reloading time of the 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L/55 gun from 14.3 s to 13.3 s
Changed aiming time of the 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L/55 gun from 2.9 s to 2.3 s
Changed penetration of the Pzgr 42 shell for the 15 cm Kw.K. L/38 gun from 235 mm to 246 mm

Tiger (P)
Changed penetration of the Pzgr 40 shell for the 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 gun from 171 mm to 194 mm
Increased armor of mantlets for all guns of both turrets

VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. B
Decreased dispersion during movement for the first suspension from 0.23 to 022
Decreased dispersion on hull traverse for the second suspension from 0.23 to 022
Changed dispersion of the 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L/55 gun for the second turret from 0.38 m to 0.37 m
Decreased dispersion on turret traverse for the 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L/55 gun for the second turret from 0.16 to 0.13
Changed aiming time of the 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L/55 gun for the second turret from 2.9 s to 2.6 s
Changed aiming time of the 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L/55 gun for the second turret from 2.9 s to 2.6 s
Decreased thickness of the lower glacis plate from 200 mm to 170 mm
Increased thickness of the hull side armor from 100 mm to 120 mm
Removed the vulnerable spots in the upper glacis plate

Panther II
Added the 8,8 cm Kw.K. L/100 gun for the second turret
VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A
Changed penetration of the Pzgr 40 shell for the 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 gun from 171 mm to 194 mm
Changed the elevation and depression angles of all guns for both turrets from +17..-6 to +15…-8
Changed thickness of the upper glacis plate from 120 mm to 150 mm
Changed thickness of the lower glacis plate from 120 mm to 100 mm

Pz.Sfl. IVc
Changed penetration of the Pzgr 40 shell for the 8,8 cm Flak 37 L/56 gun from 171 mm to 194 mm

Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm
Decreased dispersion during movement from 0.2 to 0.15
Decreased dispersion on hull traverse from 0.2 to 0.15
Changed dispersion of the gun from 0.35 m to 0.32
Changed dispersion on turret traverse from 0.16 to 0.11
Decreased gun dispersion after firing from 4.0 to 2.0
Changed reloading time from 4.6 s to 4.2 s
Added 5-mm side screens

Panther/M10
Decreased dispersion during movement from 0.19 to 0.15
Decreased dispersion on hull traverse from 0.19 to 0.15
Changed gun dispersion from 0.35 m to 0.32 m
Decreased gun dispersion after firing from 4 to 2
Decreased dispersion on turret traverse from 0.12 to 0.11
Changed reloading time from 4.5 s to 4 s
Changed the view range from 350 m to 365 m
Changed the top speed from 46 km/h to 55 km/h
Added screens on the hull front, sides, and rear (by analogy with the turret), and on the front of the gun mantlet. Screen thickness: 5 mm

VK 30.01 (D)
Changed the traverse speed of the second suspension from 38 to 40
Changed reloading time of the 7,5 cm Kw.K. 42 L/70 gun for the second turret from 4.4 s to 4.2 s
Changed the turret traverse speed of of the first turret from 32 deg/s to 35 deg/s
Changed the turret traverse speed of the second turret from 32 deg/s to 45 deg/s
Changed the top speed from 56 km/h to 60 km/h

Indien-Panzer
Changed aiming time of the 9 cm Kanone gun for the Indien-Panzer turret from 2.7 s to 2.5 s
Changed aiming time of the 8,8 cm Kw.K. 43 L/71 gun for the Indien-Panzer turret from 2.9 s to 2.7 s
Changed penetration of the Pzgr 40 shell for the 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 gun from 171 mm to 194 mm
Leopard Prototyp A
Changed the depression angles of all guns for both turret from -6 degrees to -8 degrees

VK 72.01 (K)
Decreased dispersion during movement from 0.23 to 0.21
Decreased dispersion on hull traverse from 0.23 to 0.21
Decreased dispersion on turret traverse from 0.16 to 0.1
Changed reloading time from 22 s to 20 s
Changed aiming time from 3.4 s to 2.9 s
Changed penetration of the Pzgr 42 gun for the 15 cm Kw.K. L/38 from 235 mm to 246 mm
Changed the ammo rack capacity from 24 to 35
Changed the top speed from 43 km/h to 33 km/h
Increased hull armoring

VK 30.02 (M)
Decreased dispersion on turret traverse for the 7,5 cm Kw.K. 42 L/70 gun for the second turret from 0.2 to 0.12
Decreased dispersion of the 7,5 cm Kw.K. 42 L/70 gun for the second turret after firing from 4.0 to 3.0
Decreased dispersion of the 7,5 cm Kw.K. 40 L/48 gun for the second turret after firing from 4.0 to 3.0

Waffenträger auf Pz. IV
Changed penetration of the Pzgr 42 shell for the 15 cm Pak L/38 gun from 235 mm to 246 mm

T-34-85M
The shells are replaced with ammunition of the Т-34-85 Rudy
The UBR-365K shell is replaced with UBR-365KBM (180/144)
The UBR-365P shell is replaced with UBR-365PBM (180/194)
The UOF-365K shell is replaced with UOF-365BM (300/44)
Changed the view range from 350 m to 360 m
Decreased dispersion during movement from 0.24 to 0.22
Decreased dispersion on hull traverse from 0.24 to 0.22
Decreased gun dispersion from 0.42 m to 0.37 m
Decreased aiming time from 2.5 s to 2.2 s

T28
Changed the traverse speed of T28VVSS T46 from 18 to 20
Changed the traverse speed of T28VVSS T56 from 20 to 24
Changed the top speed from 18 km/h to 22 km/h
Changed the reverse speed from 7 km/h to 10 km/h

T95
Changed the traverse speed of T95HVSS from 16 to 20
Changed the traverse speed of T95HVSSM2 from 18 to 24
Changed the top speed from 13 km/h to 20 km/h
Changed the reverse speed from 6 km/h to 10 km/h

T28 Prototype
Changed the top speed from 18 km/h to 28 km/h
Changed the reverse speed from 7 km/h to 10 km/h

T110E5
Decreased armor thickness of the commander’s cupola
Decreased thickness of the side armor in the area behind the front drive wheel the from 254 to 76.2 mm

Heavy Tank No. VI
Changed penetration of the Pzgr. 40 shell for the 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 gun from 171 mm to 194 mm
Increased thickness of the gun mantlet armor

Type 5 Heavy
Added the 15 cm/45 41st Year Type gun
Increased armoring of the hull and turret

Type 4 Heavy
Added the 15 cm/45 41st Year Type gun
Changed load capacity of the Type 4 Heavy Kai suspension from 165.000 kg to 170.000 kg
Increased hull armoring
 

gammaray

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more changes that do not address, arty, tiny and insufficient maps and their bad corridors design, complete noobs matched up against pros all the times which most of the matches now ending 15-6 or worse, useless armor on hvy tanks, etc.

also i find it funny after 5 years they decide to buff the T95 speed to 20kmh, roll eyes...
 

microAmp

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Speed buffs to the British MTs will be nice. I can't stand the FV4202 speed when I play it and don't play it much because of it.
Look forward to the Maus armor buff, wonder how much that extra 20mm or so will help. Angled correctly, I remember getting non-pens on HEAT rounds from MTs, like T-54 and a tier 10 one.
I wonder if the pen buff on E-100 will be worthy. I'm a HEAT whore when I use that tank during the initial brawling of HTs.
 

biostud

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just finished t28 prototype, which I really liked, and now playing t30 which is very different. What modules do you use?

Found out it is not for brawling, but medium range sniper.

Is the t110e4 anything like the t28 prototype?
 

Craig234

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just finished t28 prototype, which I really liked, and now playing t30 which is very different. What modules do you use?

Found out it is not for brawling, but medium range sniper.

Is the t110e4 anything like the t28 prototype?

I didn't play the T28 proto, but the E4 has good armor and a turret with 180 degree rotation. It brawls well in front of it, but not with things that can circle it.
 

microAmp

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I played the T30 just like a T29, T32, M103 and T110E5. Make use of it's hull down turret armor.

Rammer, GLD, Vents was my choice.
 

Craig234

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I played the T30 just like a T29, T32, M103 and T110E5. Make use of it's hull down turret armor.

Rammer, GLD, Vents was my choice.

I found the T30 better as a sniper as I recall, that it's killed fast otherwise.

Hull down might be good, but not always an option.
 

Stuka87

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just finished t28 prototype, which I really liked, and now playing t30 which is very different. What modules do you use?

Found out it is not for brawling, but medium range sniper.

Is the t110e4 anything like the t28 prototype?

Play the T30 like a T29/T32/T34. They all have meh hull armor, but amazing turrets from the front. So very good for hull down. But be aware that the commanders hatch on the T30 is a weak spot. If you can't be hull down, then play the support roll. Be behind the heavies, and sneak in your shots where you can.

The T110E4 does not have a turret that can fully rotate, it goes 90 degrees to each side, and is slow. The front of the turret is not spectacular, but if you angle it after shots its much better (similar to an E100 or Maus). It does have better speed and maneuverability. Even after the upcoming buff for the T28/T28proto/T95.
 

microAmp

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The T110E4 does not have a turret that can fully rotate, it goes 90 degrees to each side, and is slow. The front of the turret is not spectacular, but if you angle it after shots its much better (similar to an E100 or Maus). It does have better speed and maneuverability. Even after the upcoming buff for the T28/T28proto/T95.


I've been waiting a long time to buy the T110E4. Been able to buy it for quite a while but also been waiting for an On Track (Top of the Tree) for it, so I can save 30%. I was even disappointed during the Christmas time when no tier 10s were on sale, at least for NA server.

Yesterday I did pick up Obj. 263 Russian TD and two weeks ago, GW E-100 SPG, both 30% discount.
 

biostud

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If I try to stay back and snipe it usually ends with my team being overrun, if I follow heavies I die along with the heavies. Maybe I just have been matched with bad players. I switched vents with camouflage, seems to help somewhat. So I will try to keep sniping, medium range.
 

biostud

Lifer
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Going a little better in the T30 using Camo. Trying to keep the distance to enemies around viewing range and lots of cover.
 

Craig234

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Going a little better in the T30 using Camo. Trying to keep the distance to enemies around viewing range and lots of cover.

]Good to hear. I think it's nice for damage and not getting shot. Just got a new PC playing with max graphics, and the game is a bit prettier.
 

Stuka87

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I have gone back to try and improve my Tiger stats (was my first heavy ever, so they are rubbish). I forgot how much I love playing this tank, especially with the buffed mantlet armor, it really does help. Also getting pretty decent with my VK100.01P.
 

mooncancook

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I don't seem to see the news for on-track event anymore, I have no idea which is currently on sale...
 
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