[MMO] World of Tanks

[Possessed Freak]

Disagree.

Certain tanks can be rendered much less effective or require a hugh shift in tactics, depending on what tier of tank and class of tank they are facing up against, but they can still be useful and can still damage them.

My Light Tier 4 going up against the same high tier tanks *is* crap though. I can almost understand putting them in a game with multiple arty so at least they can damage/kill stuff. I do not understand why the developers believe the lights are useful in a high tier tank brawl though. They have crappier radios than the big boys, they have crappier optics than the big boys, and they are not going to damage the big boys. So really, what is the point?

Now, if it were not for the *idiot* KV-5 that let an arty repeatedly hit it while capping (he stood still), my tank was going to be the difference between the win and tie in one high tier match. Instead we tied since his capping effort kept getting reset.

 

[stag3]

so im at roughly 21k in the IS, should i save up the last 5k for the engine or upgrade to the 2nd 122 cannon now, either way i'll end up with both, any ideas for which is more needed now?

 

[1ceHacka]

My Light Tier 4 going up against the same high tier tanks *is* crap though. I can almost understand putting them in a game with multiple arty so at least they can damage/kill stuff. I do not understand why the developers believe the lights are useful in a high tier tank brawl though. They have crappier radios than the big boys, they have crappier optics than the big boys, and they are not going to damage the big boys. So really, what is the point?

Now, if it were not for the *idiot* KV-5 that let an arty repeatedly hit it while capping (he stood still), my tank was going to be the difference between the win and tie in one high tier match. Instead we tied since his capping effort kept getting reset.

Watch some clanwars episodes on youtube from WOT. The teams are very often a series of Tier 10, Tier 9, Arty, and Lights. I have seen plenty of episodes with 3 Leopards on each side. They do an outstanding job in keeping the other team "lit up" without being hit themselves. Eventually someone gets them, but that's almost always after arty has downed an IS-7 or more.

Lights are NOT useless in battles. On the Campinova map, I was in my IS-3 last night and really didn't feel like playing a long draw, so I decided to charge straight across. Being the top tier guy, I survived a little abuse and made it across. I only shot 1 person 1 time before I died, but lit up their whole team basically. My team went on to win and I got 1100 xp without the double. Lights could have done the same thing I did but maybe even survived because of the high speed and agility.

 

[PowerYoga]

so im at roughly 21k in the IS, should i save up the last 5k for the engine or upgrade to the 2nd 122 cannon now, either way i'll end up with both, any ideas for which is more needed now?

Cannon first. The faster reload is a god send and your default acceleration is more than good enough. Never found myself having trouble hitting the top speed in an IS anyway.

 

[Daverino]

Watch some clanwars episodes on youtube from WOT. The teams are very often a series of Tier 10, Tier 9, Arty, and Lights. I have seen plenty of episodes with 3 Leopards on each side. They do an outstanding job in keeping the other team "lit up" without being hit themselves. Eventually someone gets them, but that's almost always after arty has downed an IS-7 or more.

Lights are NOT useless in battles. On the Campinova map, I was in my IS-3 last night and really didn't feel like playing a long draw, so I decided to charge straight across. Being the top tier guy, I survived a little abuse and made it across. I only shot 1 person 1 time before I died, but lit up their whole team basically. My team went on to win and I got 1100 xp without the double. Lights could have done the same thing I did but maybe even survived because of the high speed and agility.

In Clan Wars, the 'lights' are almost always T-54s. Clan wars are:
T-30s
Maus or IS-7 situationally
T-54s
T7 and T8 arty

Until they put a point cap on Clan Wars, that's how the high end teams roll.

 

[Skott]

Cannon first. The faster reload is a god send and your default acceleration is more than good enough. Never found myself having trouble hitting the top speed in an IS anyway.

I would agree. Get the gun first so you can at least do potentially more damage now rather than later. It will also help you gain xp faster so the grind to the last engine isn't so bad.

 

[stag3]

sweet, i'll grab it tonight when i get home and start the 26k grind for the engine after

 

[Liet]

I've unlocked the Panther, and am now grinding out some cash to buy one. Even though it'll be a few months until 6.6, I like knowing already that I'll be receiving a free PantherII with 100% crew. Yay!

The downside is that the WoT forums claim that the Panther is one huge module hitbox. It's hard NOT to lose a module when you get hit.

 

[stag3]

after i research the IS-3, i'll be grinding the DB to panther , so i should pass on the panther II for now? i'll get one for free for having the panther I ?

 

[Elcs]

Russian Test Server 6.5 patch #2 is up.

I've unlocked the Panther, and am now grinding out some cash to buy one. Even though it'll be a few months until 6.6, I like knowing already that I'll be receiving a free PantherII with 100% crew. Yay!

The downside is that the WoT forums claim that the Panther is one huge module hitbox. It's hard NOT to lose a module when you get hit.

What the WoT Forums claim and what is truth is often two different things.

In my experience of over 300 games in my Panther, it is no more susceptible to module damage than your average tank.

HOWEVER, it does possess a very strange ability. Some matches, every single hit will kill crew or damage modules. Other matches, you'll be left on a measly number of hitpoints but have only an orange coloured track.

after i research the IS-3, i'll be grinding the DB to panther , so i should pass on the panther II for now? i'll get one for free for having the panther I ?

If you have the current Tier 8 Panther in your garage when the 6.6 patch is released, you will receive a new Tier 7 Panther and a new Tier 8 Panther II.

The current Panther II gets the same deal as the current M26 Pershing. Possessing a current Panther II when the 6.6 patch comes in replaces your current Panther II with an E-50.

The Panther II is supposed to be a beast with the top engine and 10.5cm. I just don't have the desire to get the 10.5cm on mine, it's a HUGE grind.

 

[Zanovar]

Watched lots of battles on youtube,the game looks great fun.

 

[stag3]

so if i have either panther, i'll get a new free tank
but if i have both panthers, i only get 1 tank hm

 

[Liet]

Nono, if you have both, you'll have all three after the patch.

Have a panther: You now have a tier 7 Panther, and you get a free panther II
Have a panther II: You get a free E-50.

Thanks Elcs. That's reassuring news about the Panther.
Overlord says the PantherII will likely lose the 10.5cm. I think I'm just going to buy one and not play it much until the patch hits, you know?
Do you have a KT, btw? For someone who bypassed the 3601H, is it worth spending the time to get it before the patch hits, do you think?

 

[Liet]

OH, I purchased a Matilda a few days ago and it's a LOT of fun! It's feels much tougher than the PanzerIV I had at that tier. You can actually advance on enemies in this thing! Last night I played peekaboo with a 100% KV, and won... I angled my front and he bounced a lot, fortunately.

A good match gets me about 30k profit. Pretty solid buy for a premium purchase and I'd recommend it.

 

[stag3]

if you need profit, the lowe is the way to go

 

[PowerYoga]

Module damage is a crapshoot. I feel like all the claims on the forums are overly dramatic because people only remember the worst.

For example... my KV-3. Some games I'll bounce every single round and end up with only damaged tracks even with HE spamming. Other games I'll get lit on fire by the first shot. Twice.

Same with my IS... many games I get my gunner/driver/commander taken out the first shot. Logical, because many people aim at your turret and that's where they sit. Once the shell penetrates, it has a chance of destroying modules/crew... and that comes down to luck. I say its like a 50/50 chance if you get hit spot on. I specifically remember them raising the chances of AP shells causing module damage and lowered HE's chances in one of the patches.

External modules are much more susceptible because people can see it reliably so they focus on it. Same with the engine block...

 

[Elcs]

EDIT: Lowe/Lion Tank Guide

I recommend looking at the Locust when 6.5 comes in.

So far this little thing is a real blast to play.

Nono, if you have both, you'll have all three after the patch.

Have a panther: You now have a tier 7 Panther, and you get a free panther II
Have a panther II: You get a free E-50.

Thanks Elcs. That's reassuring news about the Panther.
Overlord says the PantherII will likely lose the 10.5cm. I think I'm just going to buy one and not play it much until the patch hits, you know?
Do you have a KT, btw? For someone who bypassed the 3601H, is it worth spending the time to get it before the patch hits, do you think?

If you have a Panther II with the 10.5cm when 6.6 hits, you will be given an E-50 with it's top weapon.

If you have a Panther, I think you are given a stock T7 Panther and a T8 Panther II at the same tech levels as your old T8 Panther. i.e if your T8 Panther was Elite, your T8 Panther II will be Elite.

I disliked my VK3601(H) and my Tiger, Elite aside from the KT research is not great at all. It is not a very good tank, even when you try to use it 'properly. From everything I see about the King Tiger and players who use it, it is definitely a great tank.

Whether or not you reach the King Tiger before 6.6 or not matters little. The important thing is to decide whether you want a Maus or an E-100 before you go beyond the King Tiger.

Right now it goes:

King Tiger -> VK4502(P) Ausf B -> Maus

After 6.6 it goes:

King Tiger -> E-75 -> E-100

So, if you want the Maus, you'd better get a move on so that you can get it all unlocked before 6.6.

If you want an E-100, it's probably safe to say get your King Tiger at your leisure and if you reach it before then, store any experience you gain on it once it is fully upgraded.

 

[Skott]

Grinding the Tiger to KT is a royal PIA. Basically trying to play it from 7pm to 12am EST is frustrating. Everyone is playing their T8+ tanks and I'm being thrown into those fights with my Tiger and it sucks. Die all the time and xp gain is minimal even with Premium. I'm halfway to the KT now though so I can start to see the light.

I'm still grinding in my 3001P tank. Dog of a tank. Sucks. Against my better judgement I went ahead and spent the XP I had to get the second best and last engine. At least now the thing moves faster. Stock engine made it one of the slowest tanks I ever played. Also, I switched to the 10.5cm gun because the 88mm just wasn't getting me much XP. It looks funny with its stubby gun but when it does connect WHAMO! I have to get closer to the enemy than I prefer but that's the trade off.

Grinding up to the Panthers to get those free tanks is gonna be a real chore.

 

[PowerYoga]

Think the general consensus for the 3001 is to just ignore all upgrades and haul ass past it. Tried it in beta and wanted to kill myself, even more so than the A-20. It can't do diddily squat and feels as slow as a hetzer.

Is the locust a premium tank in 6.5?

 

[Liet]

Tricky to know without knowing the stats yet for the E-75 / E-100. I'll go check the woT forums.

For heavies I've been going Russian, because I really do think Germans get shafted in the Heavy department until the KT, based on what I've seen ingame. I feel bad for the poor Tigers I see who have to hang back to be successful, while the IS-3s and KV5s just roll to the front.

 

[stag3]

yea i upgraded nothing but turret to mount the 88, but then went back to the 75/L70 because i did way better with it, i avoided both engines and wanted the grind over with
thank god i unlocked the DB now, but i won't be getting the DB for another week or two

 

[Nik]

My Light Tier 4 going up against the same high tier tanks *is* crap though. I can almost understand putting them in a game with multiple arty so at least they can damage/kill stuff. I do not understand why the developers believe the lights are useful in a high tier tank brawl though. They have crappier radios than the big boys, they have crappier optics than the big boys, and they are not going to damage the big boys. So really, what is the point?

Now, if it were not for the *idiot* KV-5 that let an arty repeatedly hit it while capping (he stood still), my tank was going to be the difference between the win and tie in one high tier match. Instead we tied since his capping effort kept getting reset.

whine whine whine whine whine

Just because YOU can't seem to figure out how to play the tank doesn't mean someone else isn't having loads of fun in that same situation.

 

[Liet]

Grinding the Tiger to KT is a royal PIA. Basically trying to play it from 7pm to 12am EST is frustrating. Everyone is playing their T8+ tanks and I'm being thrown into those fights with my Tiger and it sucks. Die all the time and xp gain is minimal even with Premium. I'm halfway to the KT now though so I can start to see the light.

I'm still grinding in my 3001P tank. Dog of a tank. Sucks. Against my better judgement I went ahead and spent the XP I had to get the second best and last engine. At least now the thing moves faster. Stock engine made it one of the slowest tanks I ever played. Also, I switched to the 10.5cm gun because the 88mm just wasn't getting me much XP. It looks funny with its stubby gun but when it does connect WHAMO! I have to get closer to the enemy than I prefer but that's the trade off.

Grinding up to the Panthers to get those free tanks is gonna be a real chore.

Hiya Skott. Know offhand the xp needed to unlock KT?

Yes, the 3001P is hideous. HIDEOUS. I sold it as soon as humanly possible, and I'd recommend that you only unlock any equipment that can be used on other tanks. The good news is that the DB is totally different, and you'll feel MUUUCH better in it. The sloped armor means you can now effectively play peekaboo around rocks, and the 88 on it is a solid weapon.

Note that you can't use the 5% gasoline consumable with the 2nd engine. I asked about it on the forums and I was told that's because it's a diesel engine... So no engine consumable on one of the German tanks that it would be most effective on, while of course the Russians get their normal 10% and 5% consumables. Shocking.

I just unlocked the Panther, and it IS a chore, but at least the DB is kickass and competitive! You can get some great xp rounds with it.

 

[Liet]

whine whine whine whine whine

Just because YOU can't seem to figure out how to play the tank doesn't mean someone else isn't having loads of fun in that same situation.

He's right, tier 4 tanks have no place in higher tier matches. Not even as scouts.

 

[Nik]

He's right, tier 4 tanks have no place in higher tier matches. Not even as scouts.

Wrong. You whiners need to learn to play.

I've RACED behind enemy lines in a MUCH higher tier match and managed to kill ALL the arty in my little scout.

Like I said, Just because YOU don't know what the fuck you're doing doesn't mean the chassis is at fault.